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Old 04-08-2010, 11:03 AM   #251
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I went to the SAE website and the 3.6 was rated for the 2010 Camaro. Problem is you can't read it unless you buy it.

GM's Tom Sutter, V6 Chief Engineer, says the conservative rating was given by GM and that they knew the engine produced "at least" that amount. Damn marketing crap! What do I have? Did you tweek something? Or is this pony wars at it's best?
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:03 AM   #252
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Sounds like the the new color will be after the "limited run" of synergy Green is comeplete.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:03 AM   #253
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<is disappointed that the Camaro comes in second in both v8 and v6.
Great job.
I don't think it's that big of a deal if you love your car, enjoy it
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:04 AM   #254
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So now when people ask me if it is a V6 or a V8, and I say V6, and they laugh, and I respond by saying it has 304 ponies...

Now can I say it has 312? Haha.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:05 AM   #255
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I wonder if you need to replace the windsheild for all us 2010 guys who will try to install the hud.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:05 AM   #256
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I've seen a few complaints that this isn't a giant bunch of changes. I'm trying to understand where you guys think GM should have improved. The Camaro was just released as a 2010, and 2011 also marks the first Camaro convertible, pretty much a whole new car. Between these major events, I don't think GM has a lot of room for R&D on other changes.

For those who are bound to point out that the GT is faster than the SS, I will dispute that claim on two fronts. Firstly, you're not winning by much. A good Camaro driver will catch you. Secondly, there never were many people at the track that showed up stock, and 2011 won't change that. When our higher displacement engines come to the track, we will frequently be coming with exhausts, headers, intakes, and sometimes other parts. For the same modifications, it's a safe bet that we get the same slight advantage. Since both stock and modded pony cars are so close, let's be nice and show respect for both companies doing a good job.

Finally, we are getting some very important features here. The increasingly popular V6 is going to start seeing more orders, and that is the segment that is most important to win. That segment is where the numbers of so many other competitors lie, and winning there helps Chevrolet make claim to a very competitive segment in terms of performance and fuel efficiency. We're getting SGM on more cars, which is something our community specifically requested. We're also getting that HUD we wanted so much.

To say the very least, this is a very impressive update for a car in its second model year. We are very lucky to have GM catering to our requests so eagerly, and we should be eager to show our excitement.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:06 AM   #257
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I had HUD in my Grand Prix GTP years ago and it was AWESOME to have! I would love to retro my '10 to a HUD but the cost would probably be way over the top...sigh...:(
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:07 AM   #258
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I don't think it's that big of a deal if you love your car, enjoy it
I love the car, but I remember Fbodfather saying something about the Camaro being on top, and it will be, not anymore.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:08 AM   #259
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“The 304 horsepower in the 2010 Camaro was actually a conservative rating on our end,” said Tom Sutter, GM V-6 chief engineer. “But we knew already that this award-winning engine produced at least the amount of power we stated, but now we’ve gone the extra step in certifying the engine for this application and have verified an additional 8 horsepower.”


I don't believe they 'tweaked' anything, just using a different scale to measure the same output of the 2010. Granted this scale is likely the same the new Mustang is using, but it sounds like they are just measuring the power different and getting more market savy numbers rather than actually changing anything on the engine output.

As far as HUD, at the price of this car, I think it's a big mistake.

The Corvette (with Hud) has a very specific market. Most car enthusiasts that can spend that much moeny for a car are likely more adept to handle such a distracting mod and drive fine. The general public, which is who the Camaro prices attract, will be easily distracted and pay too much attention to the HUD info, as compared to the road.

Pilot's of aircraft that use HUD say there is a 'getting used to' period where they have to train themselves to look through the HUD and use the info, but at the same time, see surrounding environment. The typical driver on the road today can barely coordinate carrying a conversation using a hands free on a cellphone safely behind the wheel, now they'll have HUD to work with ???

Keep the HUD for the 2SS ONLY. That caliber buyer will be like the a Corvette buyer and more a car enthusiast that, majority anyway, can handle such a mod.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:09 AM   #260
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I found this picture on another site.. I want it !!!

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Old 04-08-2010, 11:09 AM   #261
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:09 AM   #262
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Honestly, it's not that big of a deal.

If you race, you're not going to stay stock anyway.

If you don't, it's still a great car and stands out in a sea of Stangs.

I love my Camaro!
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The scale for how they rate hp under SAE is always the same. They didn't decide to come up with numbers from a different "scale".
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:10 AM   #264
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It does however prove that you can still underrate cars with the new SAE ratings.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:13 AM   #265
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I bet all the people with their new "special" green camaros are really happy that they can actually get a car with options in that color now too.
Those special cars also include an interior touch (stitching, and panels...these cars will not.)

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I love the car, but I remember Fbodfather saying something about the Camaro being on top, and it will be, not anymore.
Why so negative? And according to WHO? The editors at MotorTrend? People need to stop letting other people tell them what to believe. Experience both cars for yourself and pick the one that fits you best. Don't worry about who's .1 seconds faster than the other...it's absolutely pointless.

Nevertheless...the Camaro team will NOT settle for "second"...but did you seriously expect them to counter the Mustang in 6 months? Less, even....things take time...especially when it comes to cars.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:21 AM   #266
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If they "verified" the V6 at 312hp does that mean the2010 V6 is already at 312hp?
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:22 AM   #267
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Thanks Becky, I've got one local club members daughter who is going to be very happy to hear this at our meet on Saturday. Legacy is still asking $5K over invoice for the limited edition sitting on their lot and won't budge. I think now she's going to order one, from another dealership!
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:23 AM   #268
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If they "verified" the V6 at 312hp does that mean the2010 V6 is already at 312hp?
seems to be the case yes.
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If they "verified" the V6 at 312hp does that mean the2010 V6 is already at 312hp?
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:25 AM   #270
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cool stuff, but HUD wasn't something i really cared to get anyways. idc if i can read anything on my front glass idc. was really hopin for a nav option so i could swap it into my 2010. guess i'll be on the wait for it.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:25 AM   #271
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Exactly what I wanted to say. The marvelous car that we'd deemed as a gift from the gods barely a year ago all of a sudden isn't enough??? Gimme a break. Everyone knows that the companies don't try to renew interest for a couple of years with the overhaul every four. So what the h*** was everybody expecting?? I was actually surprised they screwed with horsepower so soon! Synergy Green was no surprise as a full time color. It was already being produced and proved to be successful in sales. Same ole song.

Get over it.
All this reminds me about a Simpson's episode when Homer got to design car and he put everything he wanted into it. It was a monster literally ugly as sin and bigger than a tank. People have to realize their will always be a give and take. Some want it to be a refined sedan and some want it to be a stripped out supper car.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:27 AM   #272
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Well nothing much for change, but then again I wasn't expecting there to be.. However at least I can say I have a V6 putting out 312hp!

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If they "verified" the V6 at 312hp does that mean the2010 V6 is already at 312hp?
I'm thinking so!
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It seams 312hp will attract some aditional buyers but if this is just a tune that has been discoverd or whatever im sure someone will be able to find that sweet tune and beable to transfer that to to 10' camaro. I dont think 8 hp is really going to matter heck there are some of us that have started modding our camaros right after we purchased them. Simple mods will get you and additional 8HP and probably save you some money as well.
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So i just bought 304 hp stickers.... looks like im gonna have to buy soem 312 hp ones now
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As far as HUD, at the price of this car, I think it's a big mistake.

The Corvette (with Hud) has a very specific market. Most car enthusiasts that can spend that much moeny for a car are likely more adept to handle such a distracting mod and drive fine. The general public, which is who the Camaro prices attract, will be easily distracted and pay too much attention to the HUD info, as compared to the road.

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Keep the HUD for the 2SS ONLY. That caliber buyer will be like the a Corvette buyer and more a car enthusiast that, majority anyway, can handle such a mod.
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever...
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