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Old 04-08-2010, 11:30 AM   #276
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Think that HUD can be installed in our 2010's??
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:30 AM   #277
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All this reminds me about a Simpson's episode when Homer got to design car and he put everything he wanted into it. It was a monster literally ugly as sin and bigger than a tank. People have to realize their will always be a give and take. Some want it to be a refined sedan and some want it to be a stripped out supper car.
From the episode, Homer says "I want the world to think it's gonna end when I gun the motor". I love it.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:37 AM   #278
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That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever...
Have you ever lookd through a HUD ?
CAN BE distracting if you get caught up in it.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:37 AM   #279
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As far as 2011 SYNERGY GREEN:

The COLOR will be available - the current "package" as on the 1LT is NOT expected to continue (with Green stitching and interior panels.) (last I heard)
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:37 AM   #280
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If they "verified" the V6 at 312hp does that mean the2010 V6 is already at 312hp?

I believe that too. I don't think they tweaked anything on the engine to get an extra 8 hp. But even if they did, 8 hp isn't enough to make any difference. It wouldn't feel any different when you hit the accelerator.

I didn't expect it, but I was hoping for a new grille and more colors.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:38 AM   #281
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Have you ever lookd through a HUD ?
CAN BE distracting if you get caught up in it.
Uh...yeah.
And no, it's not distracting in the least once you get used to it...just like shifting a manual, or reading gauges in a car.

It has nothing to do with how much you can afford to spend on a car....
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:38 AM   #282
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So when is the official press release with all the info? Still hoping for NAV but the HUD is cool
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:39 AM   #283
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As far as HUD, at the price of this car, I think it's a [B
big mistake[/B].

The Corvette (with Hud) has a very specific market. Most car enthusiasts that can spend that much moeny for a car are likely more adept to handle such a distracting mod and drive fine.
I'll tell you what is a big mistake..thinking money=sense and/or skill.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:40 AM   #284
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So when is the official press release with all the info? Still hoping for NAV but the HUD is cool
See the original post.

No Nav besides OnStar...(which is now visually shown on HUD in cars equipped with it)
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:40 AM   #285
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So when is the official press release with all the info? Still hoping for NAV but the HUD is cool
official press release was posted a few times already, check the first page for it also.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:40 AM   #286
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http://media.gm.com/content/media/us...pr/0408_Camaro
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:40 AM   #287
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Uh...yeah.
And no, it's not distracting in the least once you get used to it...just like shifting a manual, or reading gauges in a car.

It has nothing to do with how much you can afford to spend on a car....
I have to agree with Dragoneye here... I mean really you have to give people a LITTLE more credit.

That said I used to turn off the HUD whenever I raced my C5 Vette on the track out Autocross, too distracting - got in the way.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:41 AM   #288
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the HUD was also featured in the GTP but whos keeping track?
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:43 AM   #289
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“The 304 horsepower in the 2010 Camaro was actually a conservative rating on our end,” said Tom Sutter, GM V-6 chief engineer. “But we knew already that this award-winning engine produced at least the amount of power we stated, but now we’ve gone the extra step in certifying the engine for this application and have verified an additional 8 horsepower.”

Like many of you have said I read into this to believe that the 2010 Camaro V6 may also be in the 312hp range. Also note that not all engines coming off the line produce exactly the same hp rating, you will always have varations.

GM may have only done some computer tweaking to get the extra 8 hp.

What we will need to see is some dynos numbers of the 2010 vs 2011 v6's.

On the HUD GM had to do this. Since the Camaro can play many roles outside of just being a daily comute car people will be using it at the track as well. Monitoring temps can be critical as well as keeping your eyes on the road so looking down to see your temp gauge is not a great idea. However they could have just made it an option.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:46 AM   #290
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From the episode, Homer says "I want the world to think it's gonna end when I gun the motor". I love it.
Wait I have the official spy photo of the Homer Camaro in synergy green. Notice they fixed the gas cap on the wrong side issue.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:46 AM   #291
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I believe that too. I don't think they tweaked anything on the engine to get an extra 8 hp. But even if they did, 8 hp isn't enough to make any difference..
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:48 AM   #292
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Uh...yeah.
And no, it's not distracting in the least once you get used to it...just like shifting a manual, or reading gauges in a car.

It has nothing to do with how much you can afford to spend on a car....
'Once you get used to it - my point exactly. How often have you been cut off by some bonehead that just did'nt look, care, got caught up in the radio, etc., etc.

IN MY OPINION, cost has alot to do with it. USUALLY the driver of a car that costs more than average, tends to be a bit more 'car conscious' in that they watch out for traffic, getting hit, getting cut off, etc. because 1-they are a car enthusiast and simply love to drive or 2-simply for the $$ they forked out.
If you drive a bike, you know what I mean. Bikers are much more in tune to traffic and their own position, status, etc. than alot of others on the road.

HUD is meant to alleviate the distraction of looking away from your windshield and surroundings, but it can also have the opposite affect.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:50 AM   #294
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Pilot's of aircraft that use HUD say there is a 'getting used to' period where they have to train themselves to look through the HUD and use the info, but at the same time, see surrounding environment. The typical driver on the road today can barely coordinate carrying a conversation using a hands free on a cellphone safely behind the wheel, now they'll have HUD to work with ???
It takes about 15 secs to get use to the HUD in an F-16. All you have to do is adjust the seat height properly and it is pretty intuitive. A monocle system takes some time (different for everybody) to get use to, but that is because outside imagery (of things you see THROUGH the aircraft body) is projected into that eye. It still is easy to get use to and doesn't distract from the outside. Binocular systems are just like a HUD, completely intuitive from the get go.
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H.U.D., Green for anyone who wants it, and a V6 re-certified to 312hp are all great.
To me the best part of today's news is the absolute confirmation of another model year of the Camaro!

Whatever little bonus we get every year is fine so long as they keep the Camaro alive, thank you Team Camaro and GM.
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It takes about 15 secs to get use to the HUD in an F-16. All you have to do is adjust the seat height properly and it is pretty intuitive. A monocle system takes some time (different for everybody) to get use to, but that is because outside imagery (of things you see THROUGH the aircraft body) is projected into that eye. It still is easy to get use to and doesn't distract from the outside. Binocular systems are just like a HUD, completely intuitive from the get go.
You sound like you have first hand experience. In your opinion, how easily will the 'average driver' get used to a HUD or not be distracted ?
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I hope that this is not all of the changes for the 2011, where is the Z-28 and add more Horsepower to the V-8, C'mon GM.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:53 AM   #298
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HUD takes a few minutes to get used to nothing major. it should be an option on all cars at all levels. income has nothing to do with it IMO.
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Good stuff! I like that the HUD is standard equipment
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