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Old 04-08-2010, 08:30 PM   #579
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Off topic, but thats not his car and he probably doesnt know the name of the color.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:30 PM   #580
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:31 PM   #581
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DeathChill I think people on here, not saying you specifically, really fail to realize that gears and suspension upgrades are not as easy as just slapping parts on a car. For a factory car that is going to warranty this stuff it takes time to research, develop, test, certify, and implement these changes.
I definitely understand that, but I'm sure they've known since the beginning about the suspension issues and could have worked on it starting a year ago. Regardless, I know they are working hard, it's just a bit upsetting that there's no meaningful improvement for the 2011 year: Synergy Green and HUD. The v6 hasn't changed.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:32 PM   #582
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The suspension on the Camaro is not bad by any means.

I am sure it looks that way with the stang but ford has worked on the 2011 suspension for 5 years now. They first started offering a track pack after 5 years of the new stang. I am sure GM will be able to do it in less than that.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:33 PM   #583
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I definitely understand that, but I'm sure they've known since the beginning about the suspension issues and could have worked on it starting a year ago. Regardless, I know they are working hard, it's just a bit upsetting that there's no meaningful improvement for the 2011 year: Synergy Green and HUD. The v6 hasn't changed.
The car has been out for about 13 months. There are several cars out there that get nothing new for its second model year. The difference is most cars dont have such a devoted following. I do understand where you are coming from though. the only advice i can give is patients and faith.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:38 PM   #584
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:44 PM   #585
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THATS IT???? I waited for nothing!!!
You only waited for a price increase...you know those extra features wont be free...lol
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If you have been around for a number of years like some of us have been, you will realize that the suspension and handling on the Camaro is remarkable. Try to get a '69 to handle the way this does...or a '78...'90?

Is there room for improvement? Sure there is. Does the average driver need the improvements? I highly doubt it.

GM did their best to make these cars very affordable for Joe Public. And I think they did a great job of it.

Worried about suspension and handling? There are aftermarkets out there a person can deal with to obtain the results they feel they desire or need.

This car is by no means a tank. I mean, it is what...300lbs heavier than the Mustang? That is not a lot. And remember, it is lighter than the Challenger.

But for GM to start making changes to suspension and such would be crazy. The price would go up. There would be warranties to worry about. And really...does Joe Public need tighter suspension to enjoy this car on the public roadways?
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:49 PM   #587
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Most people couldn't drive these cars to their limits anyways.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:54 PM   #588
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Most people couldn't drive these cars to their limits anyways.
Precisely. most people couldn't drive these cars to their limits the way they are built now!
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:55 PM   #589
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If you have been around for a number of years like some of us have been, you will realize that the suspension and handling on the Camaro is remarkable. Try to get a '69 to handle the way this does...or a '78...'90?

Is there room for improvement? Sure there is. Does the average driver need the improvements? I highly doubt it.

GM did their best to make these cars very affordable for Joe Public. And I think they did a great job of it.

Worried about suspension and handling? There are aftermarkets out there a person can deal with to obtain the results they feel they desire or need.

This car is by no means a tank. I mean, it is what...300lbs heavier than the Mustang? That is not a lot. And remember, it is lighter than the Challenger.

But for GM to start making changes to suspension and such would be crazy. The price would go up. There would be warranties to worry about. And really...does Joe Public need tighter suspension to enjoy this car on the public roadways?
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So, is it confirmed there will be no other changes, or will there be more updates released later? Fbodfather, Number3?
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:58 PM   #591
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So, is it confirmed there will be no other changes, or will there be more updates released later? Fbodfather, Number3?
Lol, I can see it now.

Number 3: Perhaps.... we will just have to wait and see.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:59 PM   #593
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Lol, I can see it now.

Number 3: Perhaps.... we will just have to wait and see.
Haha, I can see that! I just mean, is this 100% it or is there "potential" for more changes to come for the 2011 model year?
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:11 PM   #594
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If you have been around for a number of years like some of us have been, you will realize that the suspension and handling on the Camaro is remarkable. Try to get a '69 to handle the way this does...or a '78...'90?

Is there room for improvement? Sure there is. Does the average driver need the improvements? I highly doubt it.

GM did their best to make these cars very affordable for Joe Public. And I think they did a great job of it.

Worried about suspension and handling? There are aftermarkets out there a person can deal with to obtain the results they feel they desire or need.

This car is by no means a tank. I mean, it is what...300lbs heavier than the Mustang? That is not a lot. And remember, it is lighter than the Challenger.

But for GM to start making changes to suspension and such would be crazy. The price would go up. There would be warranties to worry about. And really...does Joe Public need tighter suspension to enjoy this car on the public roadways?
But a Challenger being 300 lbs heavier than a Camaro makes it a pig...right, I'll remember that, after all...thats not alot.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:13 PM   #595
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Haha, I can see that! I just mean, is this 100% it or is there "potential" for more changes to come for the 2011 model year?
The only people that know that are pretty high up at GM. They very well could make another announcement. We just have to wait and see.
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