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Old 04-08-2010, 09:14 PM   #596
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^^^^No one needs your patience and sass in this thread. I am impatient and demand to know everything. YOU TELL ME NOW!

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But a Challenger being 300 lbs heavier than a Camaro makes it a pig...right, I'll remember that, after all...thats not alot.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, no one needs your logic in this thread. It's only for praise of the very boring updates. :(
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:16 PM   #597
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Excellent! Any word on when additional info is coming out?
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:22 PM   #598
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Sweet! That means when the (#3 disclaimer: OR WILL IT?? ) Z/28 comes out, it will have HUD. I could really care less about a 2011, cause I have a 2010, but I am interested in some of the goodies that the Z version will inherit
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:24 PM   #599
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Most people couldn't drive these cars to their limits anyways.
Most people couldn't drive an Aveo to its limit ...

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But a Challenger being 300 lbs heavier than a Camaro makes it a pig...right, I'll remember that, after all...thats not alot.
yup
Camaro -300 lbs = meh, its pretty close
Camaro +300 lbs = pig!!!1!!11!
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:40 PM   #600
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not reading all 24 pages....but Im wondering....does our v6 have 312 hp and its just now getting certified or are there actually changes to the 6 to cause more hp that wasnt there beforehand?
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:42 PM   #601
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We all just got an 8 hp increase

From Car and Driver. http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car..._bump-car_news


"For 2011, Chevy will make up the power deficiency—on paper, at least—that was served by the latest 305-hp V-6 Mustang, which just so happened to beat the current Camaro V-6’s rating by a single horsepower. The 2011 Camaro V-6 will put down 312 hp at 6500 rpm (100 rpm later) and 278 lb-ft of torque at 5100 rpm (100 rpm earlier), the latter an increase of 5 lb-ft. The updated output numbers are not the result of any changes to the engine, though. Chevrolet says its original numbers were conservative and that these new ones are SAE-certified"

So it looks like all of us with V6's are really pushing 312 hp.

I wonder if we can get new docs with the new rating.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:46 PM   #602
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not reading all 24 pages....but Im wondering....does our v6 have 312 hp and its just now getting certified or are there actually changes to the 6 to cause more hp that wasnt there beforehand?
You don't have to read the entire thread ... the info you want is in the first post
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:49 PM   #603
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I definitely understand that, but I'm sure they've known since the beginning about the suspension issues and could have worked on it starting a year ago. Regardless, I know they are working hard, it's just a bit upsetting that there's no meaningful improvement for the 2011 year: Synergy Green and HUD. The v6 hasn't changed.

.......please go back and read my post -- there are many things being worked on......
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:50 PM   #604
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I would have liked to see a higher rear-end gear, somewhere in the 3.73 range and smaller 18 or 19" tires as standard. That would dramatically improve acceleration. Those 20"tires are just too damn big, and expensive. It kills the 3.45 gearing.

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Old 04-08-2010, 09:51 PM   #605
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But a Challenger being 300 lbs heavier than a Camaro makes it a pig...right, I'll remember that, after all...thats not alot.
It equates to .3 in the quarter mile.

Every 100lbs = .1 or roughly 10WHP.

On a car that is already underpowered and overweight it does make a huge difference.

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Old 04-08-2010, 09:54 PM   #606
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I would have liked to see a higher rear-end gear, somewhere in the 3.73 range and smaller 18 or 19" tires as standard. That would dramatically improve acceleration. Those 20"tires are just too damn big, and expensive. It kills the 3.45 gearing.

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Leaves more for the aftermarket.

I would love to see GM offer a "strip" version of a 1SS that had 18x10" rims and a 4.10. That would clearly put it ahead of the new Mustang 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. To me that would have been worth waiting for a 2011.
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.......please go back and read my post -- there are many things being worked on......
Oh I definitely understand you guys are working and improving all the time, but I am more interested in improvements for 2011. I don't have the money to buy a new car every year.

I didn't mean to imply you guys did bad, but just that I was hoping for some specific things.

That leads me back to my question: do we know everything about the 2011 Camaro changes or is there potential for surprises?

Also, I imagine we won't see any new performance tests for 2011? Just because everything should be in line with 2010's numbers.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:00 PM   #608
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But a Challenger being 300 lbs heavier than a Camaro makes it a pig...right, I'll remember that, after all...thats not alot.
Ooops! Came out wrong. LOL Sorry for dissing the Challenger. Was not my intent. To be honest...yes Camaro fans...my head snaps around whenever I see a Challenger on the street. And it handles great too!
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.......please go back and read my post -- there are many things being worked on......
I think what some people would like to know is if this is it for 2011 MY info or if there is more on the way.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:05 PM   #610
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I think what some people would like to know is if this is it for 2011 MY info or if there is more on the way.
Yes, this is what I am after.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:25 PM   #611
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:35 PM   #612
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Thats a downer on chevy, i bought the synergy green as a limited production car also... now any car that color...that stinks bad
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