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Old 04-08-2010, 05:10 PM   #491
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GM SAE-certified the 2010 Camaro V6 at 304hp.

And yes it sounds like they are just rating the car higher now.

My guess is the 2010 was certified on 87 octane gas and the 2011 is rated on 91 or higher octane gas.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:12 PM   #492
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What I'm talking about is perception. I would be happy to find out it had more power than first rated(Although I don't know why because it's not going to make it run any faster) ,but people will look at the 2010 as the one year the v-6 only had 304Hp. I bet once this all gets out and 2011's start showing up we'll see a thread started on here about someone with a 2010 saying something like" I was at the gas station the other day when a guy came up and ask "what motor you got?" ,when the op says" why a V-6", then the guy says" Is that a 2010 or 2011?" , op says" 2010" , guy says " man that sucks you got stuck with the low Hp one" .
I'll bet even enthusiasts will forget about 304 in a matter of 2 years. Let alone people on the street knowing the difference between the '10 or the '11.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:15 PM   #493
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I'll bet even enthusiasts will forget about 304 in a matter of 2 years. Let alone people on the street knowing the difference between the '10 or the '11.

No, things like that will stick around. At least with enthusiasts. I know like a metric ton of stupid 3rd and 4th gen things that dont matter anymore.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:19 PM   #494
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how about relocating the cup holders... or a cover for them... or a lower stance... or a smaller steering wheel... or a 6 cd changer... or suede interior... or ambient lights that go across the dashboard... or a fog light switch... or concept exhaust tips... or... nevermind..

so HUD huh?? sounds sweet! how do i install on mine =)
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:21 PM   #495
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What is the big deal about HUD? My wifes 07 Grand prix GXP had it. After the novelty wore off, we never used it. Don't get me wrong, it's cool, but not something I would use. Glad to see the V6 with a 312 rating, Chevy didn't show all it's cards it looks like on that. Great move on Chevy's part.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:27 PM   #496
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I'll bet even enthusiasts will forget about 304 in a matter of 2 years. Let alone people on the street knowing the difference between the '10 or the '11.
Well if that's the case, why would gm go to the trouble to recertify the motor?
I tell you why. They knew what ford was up to with the mustang and held back the right #number so that when ford brought there car out they could one up them without any redesign at all. It's no different than what ford is doing with the 5.0l right now. If you think that motor only makes 412Hp I have some ocean front property for sale in nevada I'll sell to you cheap.

Those #'s get burnt into people's brains big time. That's pretty apparent after spending only ten minutes on this very site.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:29 PM   #497
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I will say that if GM is going to offer anything else up, especially performance wise, they need to make it known soon.

The mustang will be on sell very very shortly, this month. And if people are still in the decision making process then Chevy needs to give them a reason to wait for the 2011.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:32 PM   #498
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too much whining in here, my goodness, just be thankful we have a camaro.
Especially over the passenger seat issue!

My philosophy has always been if whoever is in my car and feels the need to complain about **insert complaint here...no A/C, stiff suspension, racing buckets instead of 'cushy factory seats', loud exhaust, pet hair, only 2 doors not 4, whatever the beef of choice is** they have 2 options:
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:33 PM   #499
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Well if that's the case, why would gm go to the trouble to recertify the motor?
I tell you why. They knew what ford was up to with the mustang and held back the right #number so that when ford brought there car out they could one up them without any redesign at all. It's no different than what ford is doing with the 5.0l right now. If you think that motor only makes 412Hp I have some ocean front property for sale in nevada I'll sell to you cheap.

Those #'s get burnt into people's brains big time. That's pretty apparent after spending only ten minutes on this very site.

I believe you on GM knowing the v6 made more than 304, but from everything Ive read, the 5.0 is pretty tapped out. Ive heard that it has some variable timing that keeps it just below knocking. I dont know if thats verified though. But I also heard that it was dynoed on 91 ocatane which if what I heard before that is true, then it should adjust itself and pick up a few more hp. But thats if it was tested on 91. Just because they say its minimum recommened fuel is 91 doesnt mean they didnt use 93.

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GM SAE-certified the 2010 Camaro V6 at 304hp.

And yes it sounds like they are just rating the car higher now.

My guess is the 2010 was certified on 87 octane gas and the 2011 is rated on 91 or higher octane gas.
GM Probably used the certification from the CTS to advertise the HP in the Camaro, if you read his statement
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“The 304 horsepower in the 2010 Camaro was actually a conservative rating on our end,” said Tom Sutter, GM V-6 chief engineer. “But we knew already that this award-winning engine produced at least the amount of power we stated, but now we’ve gone the extra step in certifying the engine for this application and have verified an additional 8 horsepower.”
.. meaning it had not been certified for the Camaro as installed with it's lower restriction exhaust and possibly air intake.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:35 PM   #501
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not trying to be a dick or any thing, but isn't it a bit weird that you can afford a 50k car and then a twin turbo kit, but not a 100 dollar camera??
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:37 PM   #502
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not trying to be a dick or any thing, but isn't it a bit weird that you can afford a 50k car and then a twin turbo kit, but not a 100 dollar camera??
He is trolling Unfair who might be trolling this site.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:37 PM   #503
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not trying to be a dick or any thing, but isn't it a bit weird that you can afford a 50k car and then a twin turbo kit, but not a 100 dollar camera??


LOL. I'd think its just as funny if I drive a 2001 SS. Inside joke.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:37 PM   #504
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not trying to be a dick or any thing, but isn't it a bit weird that you can afford a 50k car and then a twin turbo kit, but not a 100 dollar camera??
I find it more odd that you would own a car like that, but wouldn't want a camera to take pictures of it...
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