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Old 10-06-2008, 12:02 AM   #51
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6k-10k in options, thats alot of options! I hope you mean the body kit, exhaust, etc. included in that price quote.
SS1 vs Loaded SS2/RS. Add a couple grand for SS2, and for RS, and for all the other options like a sunroof, sound system, interior accents, etc. It adds up. I doubt it will top 38k for all that though.
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I'd say low to mid 20's for a V6 and around 30 for a V8 base. still hoping for a miracle with lower prices for an SS, but you know....you must deal with what is served.
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I'd say low to mid 20's for a V6 and around 30 for a V8 base. still hoping for a miracle with lower prices for an SS, but you know....you must deal with what is served.
30 For A 1SS.. Means 2SS/RS be Around 35-38??. :(Puts Me Out Of The Game....I'll Wait And Buy A Slightly used One..Or a Vette..For That Price..
Dunno Though.. That Doesnt Sound Very Competive with The MUDSTAIN, as previously reported..

And For All the people loading up The MUDSTAIN On The BUILD your own..
I Have Several Times And EVEN Loaded. It Only Comes To Just over 31k.

Where Are You getting the $$ you have Stated..I have Seen anywhere from 35k-38k, posted on here.

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Old 10-06-2008, 04:50 PM   #54
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30 For A 1SS.. Means 2SS/RS be Around 35-38??. :(Puts Me Out Of The Game....I'll Wait And Buy A Slightly used One..Or a Vette..For That Price..
Dunno Though.. That Doesnt Sound Very Competive with The MUDSTAIN, as previously reported..

And For All the people loading up The MUDSTAIN On The BUILD your own..
I Have Several Times And EVEN Loaded. It Only Comes To Just over 31k.

Where Are You getting the $$ you have Stated..I have Seen anywhere from 35k-38k, posted on here.

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Go add in some sound options, wheels, etc and you'll get up around 34K. That's what I did.
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:48 PM   #55
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Are you adding the glass roof, etc?
I tried my very hardest to option the darn thing to the sky...and I get right under 35k...
Ok, I just built one right now. It came to $36,000 on the nose. And I didn't add every little option available.

2009 Mustang GT Premium
GT Security Package $375
COMFORT PACKAGE $575
GT CALIFORNIA SPECIAL PACKAGE $1,895
18" PREMIUM ALUMINUM WHEELS $925
HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE (HID) HEADLAMPSHID $525
3.55 Limited Slip Axle Ratio $300
Shaker 1000 Audio System $1,295
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Base- $28,375
Option Total- $6830
Destination- $795

That doesn't even include the Glass Roof and probably near another $1000 in individual options I didn't choose (navigation, iPod hookup, metallic fuel filler, Hands Free, floor mats). With everything else and the Glass Roof it's over $37,000.

While I don't believe the SS will start over $30,000 I have little doubt it will easily reach $39,000 with nearly every option.

These may not be options many here are interested in, but they are an option. So you must factor them into a 'fully loaded' price.

For the Camaro you have to factor in the base price plus RS package, fuel filler door, GFX, spoilers, performance accessories, etc. EVERYTHING.

I believe the definition of 'fully loaded' is different to different people here. To me it's 'nearly every available option'.

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Go add in some sound options, wheels, etc and you'll get up around 34K. That's what I did.
Ahh Yess BUT THE 2SS Alrewady HAS THE UPGRADED AUDIO.. So Why Add An option that Isnt There..ON THE CAMARO?
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Ahh Yess BUT THE 2SS Alrewady HAS THE UPGRADED AUDIO.. So Why Add An option that Isnt There..ON THE CAMARO?
Because we're comparing 'fully loaded' prices. And we have no idea what the cost will be to upgrade from SS1 to SS2.

You must load the Mustang up with all it's options for a real representation of what a 'fully loaded' price is on it.
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Ok, I just built one right now. It came to $36,000 on the nose. And I didn't add every little option available.

2009 Mustang GT Premium
GT Security Package $375
COMFORT PACKAGE $575
GT CALIFORNIA SPECIAL PACKAGE $1,895
18" PREMIUM ALUMINUM WHEELS $925
HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE (HID) HEADLAMPSHID $525
3.55 Limited Slip Axle Ratio $300
Shaker 1000 Audio System $1,295
Power Code™ Remote Start System $295

Base- $28,375
Option Total- $6830
Destination- $795

That doesn't even include the Glass Roof and probably near another $1000 in individual options I didn't choose (navigation, iPod hookup, metallic fuel filler, Hands Free, floor mats). With everything else and the Glass Roof it's over $37,000.

While I don't believe the SS will start over $30,000 I have little doubt it will easily reach $39,000 with nearly every option.

These may not be options many here are interested in, but they are an option. So you must factor them into a 'fully loaded' price.

For the Camaro you have to factor in the base price plus RS package, fuel filler door, GFX, spoilers, performance accessories, etc. EVERYTHING.

I believe the definition of 'fully loaded' is different to different people here. To me it's 'nearly every available option'.
Yes But On The FORD MANY OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE COVERING THE SAME GROUND..AND ALOT OF THEM ARE ALREADY STANDARD ON THE SS.. AND I WASNT CONSIDERING THE DEALER STUFF SUCH AS GAS CAP DOORFLOOR MATS< ETC.....I Dont Feel Those should be included in you hypothosis, Since Technically they arent Options, BUT DEALER ADD-ONS.....But I SEE YOUR POINT On The Others. as Far as options Go The CAMARO doesnt seem to have MANY according to what we Saw @ INDY, With THE EXCEPTION of the dealer ADD-ONs..BUT the Mudstain..Almost Everything Is An Option..

I REally dont see how this car is going to be competivly priced with the Mustang when they are so FAR APART at the BASE LEVEL..As Far as what you get you get twice as much on the Base SS as you do the PREM GT LOADED. Sounds like a BIG Price difference is happening here.. GOD I HOPE I AM WRONG..
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Ok, I just built one right now. It came to $36,000 on the nose. And I didn't add every little option available.

2009 Mustang GT Premium
GT Security Package $375
COMFORT PACKAGE $575
GT CALIFORNIA SPECIAL PACKAGE $1,895
18" PREMIUM ALUMINUM WHEELS $925
HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE (HID) HEADLAMPSHID $525
3.55 Limited Slip Axle Ratio $300
Shaker 1000 Audio System $1,295
Power Code™ Remote Start System $295

Base- $28,375
Option Total- $6830
Destination- $795

That doesn't even include the Glass Roof and probably near another $1000 in individual options I didn't choose (navigation, iPod hookup, metallic fuel filler, Hands Free, floor mats). With everything else and the Glass Roof it's over $37,000.

While I don't believe the SS will start over $30,000 I have little doubt it will easily reach $39,000 with nearly every option.

These may not be options many here are interested in, but they are an option. So you must factor them into a 'fully loaded' price.

For the Camaro you have to factor in the base price plus RS package, fuel filler door, GFX, spoilers, performance accessories, etc. EVERYTHING.

I believe the definition of 'fully loaded' is different to different people here. To me it's 'nearly every available option'.

EDIT- I'd add the image of the page like TRIXXTERR did, but I have no idea how that was done. I can Print Screen and place it in a Word page, but don't know how to make it a jpg or gif.
Well, one thing I will say, is that the California special was no more than a few stick on body parts (scoop and window lourvers) and some badging. So $1800 is quite a bit much for that. When I priced out a Mustang I did it with features that were comparable to the 2SS/RS and it came to $34K and change.
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The SS pretty much needs to start at less than 30k. My guess is an MSRP of $28 500. Optioned out, probably mid to high 30's.
The base G8 V8 is 29,995. the Camaro will be considered a higher performance machine. The rumours out of Canada were a base SS at 33,000. There are good marketing reasons to keep the Camaro 1SS under 30,000 (29,995), but we should count ourselves lucky if we get that. I think we are dreaming if we imagine we will get less.
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The base G8 V8 is 29,995. the Camaro will be considered a higher performance machine. The rumours out of Canada were a base SS at 33,000. There are good marketing reasons to keep the Camaro 1SS under 30,000 (29,995), but we should count ourselves lucky if we get that. I think we are dreaming if we imagine we will get less.
Is Pontiac still advertising the G8 GT as the most powerful car/sedan under 30k? I read somewhere they were going to increase the base MSRP by $800-something. So technically, the Camaro could be the most powerful coupe under 30k (if it happens), and the G8 is just a BMW-whooping sedan at $30,795.

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The base G8 V8 is 29,995. the Camaro will be considered a higher performance machine. The rumours out of Canada were a base SS at 33,000. There are good marketing reasons to keep the Camaro 1SS under 30,000 (29,995), but we should count ourselves lucky if we get that. I think we are dreaming if we imagine we will get less.
I will Just wait until, I Find One On the Local lot. I Cant Afford 35+. HELL Thats Twice What I Make A Yr. Damn Small Town With Crappy Jobs..GrRR..I Dont Have TO Be The First On The Block TO HaveOne..Although I Will be.. ALL OLD PEople In My Neighborhood... I Probly have the ONLY one in my hood.

But Even With Better Pay I Doubt I Would Be Willing to pay that kinda price.. I will Pick one Up In 2012 or 2013, for about half that I'm Sure.. And While I Think About IT.. I Bet That One Of My Local Dealers here.. WILL HAVE ONE TURNED IN AS A TRADE WITH IN THE FIRST 6-9 MONTHS.. I Have Seen It Happen With EVERY Major Debut Car in the last 5YRS.. With the exception of the challenger. Noone Around Here Has bought One.. Hell they have been out since what June-July?? I finally saw my first one while AT INDY..
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i think after taxes and such and RS addons.. roofs and all that $36-37k if not slightly a little more. I think there will probablly be a transmission price differential as well between the Auto/Manual and the LS3/L99
I am an Oregon resident. We don't have a sales tax.
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The base G8 V8 is 29,995. the Camaro will be considered a higher performance machine. The rumours out of Canada were a base SS at 33,000. There are good marketing reasons to keep the Camaro 1SS under 30,000 (29,995), but we should count ourselves lucky if we get that. I think we are dreaming if we imagine we will get less.
The G8 GT is a large sedan with a ton of luxuries standard. Some standard features (like dual zone auto AC) aren't even offered as an option on the Camaro. This isn't all about performance. In the American market bigger and more seating equals more expensive.
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Well, one thing I will say, is that the California special was no more than a few stick on body parts (scoop and window lourvers) and some badging. So $1800 is quite a bit much for that. When I priced out a Mustang I did it with features that were comparable to the 2SS/RS and it came to $34K and change.
I added that because it's price was approximately what a GFX package usually costs. Not necessarily for it's specific content.
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Yes But On The FORD MANY OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE COVERING THE SAME GROUND..AND ALOT OF THEM ARE ALREADY STANDARD ON THE SS.. AND I WASNT CONSIDERING THE DEALER STUFF SUCH AS GAS CAP DOORFLOOR MATS< ETC.....I Dont Feel Those should be included in you hypothosis, Since Technically they arent Options, BUT DEALER ADD-ONS.....But I SEE YOUR POINT On The Others. as Far as options Go The CAMARO doesnt seem to have MANY according to what we Saw @ INDY, With THE EXCEPTION of the dealer ADD-ONs..BUT the Mudstain..Almost Everything Is An Option..

I REally dont see how this car is going to be competivly priced with the Mustang when they are so FAR APART at the BASE LEVEL..As Far as what you get you get twice as much on the Base SS as you do the PREM GT LOADED. Sounds like a BIG Price difference is happening here.. GOD I HOPE I AM WRONG..
I understand a lot of the options are already standard on the Camaro SS. But in order to get a fair look at what a comparable price is you still have to add them to the Mustang.

The Camaro might get them standard, but they won't come for free.


If we don't count the Dealer Options in the price, then we can't call it 'fully loaded'.
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when they say it will compete with mustang im sure it will but saying it will cost 33k fully loaded just doesnt make logical sense at all the car will have 400-422hp depending on transmission and the gt has 300hp and when the new engine comes out thats then end of next year so saying it ill be 33 fully loaded just seems to good to be true but hey i hope it will be less money i have to spend but either way i think fully loaded will be 37000 and i rather guess the price being higher that way when they release prices hopefully it will be lower for fully loaded 2ss/rs and ill be happy cause id be guessing higher then what it actully is then guessing lower and finding out its higher
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when they say it will compete with mustang im sure it will but saying it will cost 33k fully loaded just doesnt make logical sense at all the car will have 400-422hp depending on transmission and the gt has 300hp and when the new engine comes out thats then end of next year so saying it ill be 33 fully loaded just seems to good to be true but hey i hope it will be less money i have to spend but either way i think fully loaded will be 37000 and i rather guess the price being higher that way when they release prices hopefully it will be lower for fully loaded 2ss/rs and ill be happy cause id be guessing higher then what it actully is then guessing lower and finding out its higher

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The base SS (which I really want) is so loaded with options it's tough to think it'll be 28K. I'm guessing 29K (i'm being hopeful) and a loaded SS/RS is 34K. I'll use the G8/GTO's as comparisons. The GTO was about 32K and pretty loaded. Seems like it would be around the same.
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