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Old 04-17-2010, 06:10 PM   #1
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Torque management delete

Seen a bunch of you with the trifecta tune and have some questions.

Did any of you have your torque management removed? If so.... what are your impressions?

What are the cons of this option? Like tranny strain for sure..... but is it so big of a deal as to be majorly concerned about it?



p.s. I meant to put this in the regular v6 area ...sry.
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Old 04-17-2010, 09:38 PM   #2
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I don't think we can do a complete torque management delete but Vince can lower it just alittle.
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:01 AM   #3
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i maxed my values completely. that shit is for the birds.
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Old 04-19-2010, 12:35 PM   #4
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Venom - talked to Vince and he said that he can completely delete the torque mgnt but he doesn't recommend it. He doubts the drive train would hold up for very long. Vince said he will custom tailor the tune to however the customer wants it though, so I would check with him!
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:58 PM   #5
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Geez I'd LOVE more snap when in sport mode, but I'm too scared about the warranty thing lol.
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Old 04-19-2010, 02:04 PM   #6
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When Predator first released their tuner for the Trailblazer SS it took out all TQ mgt. My trans was toast after a month. They released an update that put most of it back in. But I sure missed that 1st-2nd kick! lol
Some torque mgt is necessary to protect the drivetrain. But how much? IDK
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could we specify which transmission we are talking about?
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:17 PM   #8
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could we specify which transmission we are talking about?
Both transmissions have some torque management but the Automatic has a bigger torque management for sure.
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Old 04-19-2010, 06:06 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the input guys =) was something that was eatting up the mind lol.
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:26 PM   #10
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Both transmissions have some torque management but the Automatic has a bigger torque management for sure.
I know this.... but one is stronger than the other

Taking all the torque management out of the auto... iffy

taking all the torque management out of the manual... go for it.
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The key to reducing torque management is also making sure you increase the shift pressures to go with it... and making sure you don't have flares... or yes, you'll burn the belts up...

I had Vince reduce my torque management some.. not sure how much.. love chirping 2nd! LOL!
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So how does reducing torque management affect the manual trans cars? In other posts I was told the M6 does not have "torque management" to tune? What's the real deal?

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The key to reducing torque management is also making sure you increase the shift pressures to go with it... and making sure you don't have flares... or yes, you'll burn the belts up...

I had Vince reduce my torque management some.. not sure how much.. love chirping 2nd! LOL!
Do you know how much you had Vince lower it by? I asked him to lower mine around 25%
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The key to reducing torque management is also making sure you increase the shift pressures to go with it... and making sure you don't have flares... or yes, you'll burn the belts up...

I had Vince reduce my torque management some.. not sure how much.. love chirping 2nd! LOL!
In another thread you enlightened me by mentioning that torque management and shift firmness are 2 different things, and my impression was that increasing shift firmness was the key to chirping 2nd, torque management less so. If I got that right maybe people are more interested in increasing shift firmness. If I got it wrong feel free to correct!
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In another thread you enlightened me by mentioning that torque management and shift firmness are 2 different things, and my impression was that increasing shift firmness was the key to chirping 2nd, torque management less so. If I got that right maybe people are more interested in increasing shift firmness. If I got it wrong feel free to correct!
yep, people are most likely going to be interested in increasing the firmness...

As for me, i'm loving my new light throttle shift points! LOL
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So how does reducing torque management affect the manual trans cars? In other posts I was told the M6 does not have "torque management" to tune? What's the real deal?

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It doesnt. Its the guys with auto who have to deal with this.
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whos is vince! i need to talk to this guy lol
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It doesnt. Its the guys with auto who have to deal with this.
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whos is vince! i need to talk to this guy lol
He is the owner of trifecta performance. He is the only one out with a tune for the V6.
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:01 AM   #20
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So the CTS-V has a 6L90 vs. the Camaro 6L80. Can anyone tell me what the difference is? If it's not significantly different and the CTS-V is pushing 556hp vs. my current 435 why would turning torque management off significantly shorten the life of my tranny?
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