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Old 04-19-2010, 09:12 PM   #126
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I think the HUD is nice but I can take it or leave it, definitly would not have put off buying a 2010 if thats all i was waiting for.
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:20 PM   #127
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back when i was ordering i heard of the HUD and was asking my dealer when it was due to come out and also the addition to the rear back up sensors. I thought about waiting but no official word, but low and behold i did get the sensors (despite the circles, nice feature). I wish i had the HUD, it would be nice to have but even me being # 92,608 i still wouldnt trade mine in bc i just like to over the fact that i coincidently totaled my GP when i did and was able to get the first official release year. Just weird the timing of it all and the fact i was over my first camaro i ever seen in person back in May 09 and fast forward 8 months later and i was putting my order in!

My quote: "Yeah it sickens me over how i totaled my car, and it was a great car, but hey i cant totally regret it happening bc look at what ive got now"
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:42 PM   #128
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MY vette HUD does more than that. It does less than my moms acadia with HUD.
No... It doesn't. This HUD is a bit more advanced than the one in the Corvettes thanks to the Camaro's next-generation electronics.

EDIT: Something else to consider...this CAN be turned off and dimmed separately from the interior lighting in case it becomes too distracting in certain lighting conditions. The controls are on the opposite side of the steering wheel from the headlight controls.
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:57 PM   #129
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I like it a lot. It doesn't need to be large because it becomes a distraction. It's an additional reference.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:17 PM   #130
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Looks pretty damn distracting to me. No thanks, I'll drive like a man.
I believe HUD was actually used in the millitary first. This isn't "parking assist" or some wussie crap like that. Lets be honest, if you can't park your car... you shouldn't be driving. (maybe a bicycle is more... for you?)

But, regarding HUD... Less time looking away from the road... less chance of an accident. Face it, this is a true improvement to the current method of driving. Not exactly what the millitary invented it for, but it definately works.

That said, I ain't trading in my 2010 for nothin'! But, well done GM!
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:10 PM   #131
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What a crock of crap!

Everyone cried like a little girl when the camaro arrived with out HUD. Now everyone is crying like a little girl because HUD came out.

One member on here was pretty critical of HUD when he saw the actual configuration, but when shown the video of the original example of HUD in a promotional video (prior to the car even coming out) he thought it was cool. What are the differences?....it looks the same to me.

I completely agree it needs to be an OPTION! But I just don't see how people can be so disappointed in something they were so passionate about the car not having when it was released. Based on the description of what HUD displays I don't think there is a lot more they can display. It shows useful and meaningful data to HELP YOU DRIVE.

DISCLAIMER: I realize not everyone who has posted was around when the HUD was first discussed, and vice versa.
I for one am angry that HUD came out on the 2011, but that's because it DIDN'T come out on the 2010 at all, so I missed getting it.

On the other hand, far too many people jumped down my throat for saying that the backup sensor should be an OPTION, so I can't get on board with anyone complaining that HUD should be optional.

All I can hope for is a retrofit kit. I hope it is do-able.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:15 PM   #132
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Unfortunately...HUD as an option is virtually impossible.

After talking to the Great Camaro Team members that attended the Fest....somehow the unit ties into way too many different subsystems of the car to even make half a lick of sense as offering it as an option. I say "somehow" because I'm no engineer...especially when it comes to sensitive electronics.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:23 PM   #133
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Unfortunately...HUD as an option is virtually impossible.

After talking to the Great Camaro Team members that attended the Fest....somehow the unit ties into way too many different subsystems of the car to even make half a lick of sense as offering it as an option. I say "somehow" because I'm no engineer...especially when it comes to sensitive electronics.
That implies this is an impossible retrofit.

However, as an electronics/software engineer I can say it would be really poor layout to tie this device into all kinds of systems with a mass of interconnects. The information that needs to be displayed should be readily available over a single connection from the main controller in the car.

I can accept it if they say that the info from the audio/bluetooth/usb controller is separate.

They should be working to integrate all these functions into a standard network on the car so that they can save weight.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:33 PM   #134
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That implies this is an impossible retrofit.

However, as an electronics/software engineer I can say it would be really poor layout to tie this device into all kinds of systems with a mass of interconnects. The information that needs to be displayed should be readily available over a single connection from the main controller in the car.

I can accept it if they say that the info from the audio/bluetooth/usb controller is separate.

They should be working to integrate all these functions into a standard network on the car so that they can save weight.
The Camaro features their newest electronics "platform"(? I dunno what else to call it). Anyways...like I said, I'm no engineer so I can't really delve into it intelligently. All I can guess is that systems like OnStar, ECM, and the "silver box" all have to communicate to it...and everything must sync up...meaning lots of inter-system communication...all displayed through the HUD...which can get complicated.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:37 PM   #135
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If it showed me the stock ticker then I would care...
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:43 PM   #136
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If it showed me the stock ticker then I would care...
I guess they don't call it a 'crash' for nothin'!
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:57 PM   #137
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Where's the whiskey marker, reticle, velocity vector, etc.?...
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:53 AM   #138
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:19 AM   #139
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Cool feature, but another that goes to sh** all the time. And it's not like it's a new invention or anything, I had it on my 1991 silvia (factory option).
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:03 AM   #140
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:10 AM   #141
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Great feature - will make travelling on the highway in 'deer country' a whole lot safer.
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:28 PM   #142
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I for one am angry that HUD came out on the 2011, but that's because it DIDN'T come out on the 2010 at all, so I missed getting it.

On the other hand, far too many people jumped down my throat for saying that the backup sensor should be an OPTION, so I can't get on board with anyone complaining that HUD should be optional.

All I can hope for is a retrofit kit. I hope it is do-able.
I think that is a different response than what most are implying. It seems most are implying that HUD is lame and completely un-necessary. I just find it amusing how some people compaining it wasn't part of the car last year, are the ones saying "too distracting, lame, don't need it.....etc."

i don't blame those that wanted it last year, and still want it.
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:42 PM   #143
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i think the hud is a good feature to have,but how many folks actually look down at their speed, if you are on an interstate your gonna set the cruise anyway,as i said,a good neat feature but not a must have for me,...but i do hope that g.m. offers the hurst shifter for the 2010 that is gonna be standard in the 2011,
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:31 PM   #144
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I guess they don't call it a 'crash' for nothin'!
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:34 PM   #145
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Pretty cool gadget, I could do without it.

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Old 04-21-2010, 05:46 PM   #146
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Its neat, GM could easily make it do more telemetry like an accelerometer, boost input, shift light and sword fighting stick figures!!!
I wonder what the chances are of a dash mounted pod for existing cars??
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Old 04-21-2010, 05:49 PM   #147
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Its neat, GM could easily make it do more telemetry like an accelerometer, boost input, shift light and sword fighting stick figures!!!
I wonder what the chances are of a dash mounted pod for existing cars??
IT's been stated that all that is needed is a new dash and windshield along with the unit itself. Which may or may not be a part of the dash when purchased. I plan to upgrade my 2010 as soon as I can. As I mentioned earlier I already need a new windshield, since 3 days after I picked up my car.
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:48 AM   #148
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For those considering this mod, you will find that once you drive a car with the HUD you will wonder how you were able to live without it. I installed one on my C6 Corvette and now I rarely ever use the speedometer and tach. The HUD is adjustable up/down, brightness is ajustable and it does not require a special windshield. The windshield rumor was rampant on the Corvette forums too. The may be some minor improvement with the "special windshield", but not enough to warrant changing the windshield or delaying installation of this mod.

The Corvette HUD requires splicing of 6 conductors from a custom harness into the existing wiring behind the instrument panel speedometer/tach. The ability to install a HUD into a 2010 Camaro will depend on whether the threaded mounting posts for the projector are there for the 2010 model. I suspect they are. The projector requires a fairly large piece of real estate behind the instrument panel. Since the HUD was planned for the Camaro from the beginning, it makes sense that the posts are there.

If the posts are there, the install will require installing the control switch, projector, custom wiring harness, and whatever mod is needed for the dashboard. The mod only takes a couple hours to install on a Corvette. It should be similar for a Camaro. If someone has a wiring diagram for the connectors behind the speedometer/tach, we can start working on the harness. I have manufactured and sold over 50 HUD harnesses on the Corvette forum. I am confident that Camaro harness will be doable. I suspect the dash piece may be the most costly part of this mod for 2010 Camaros. For the Corvette, the total cost of the mod is $375 for all the parts.

There is one other challenge. GM does not allow the dealers to sell the projectors for installation into non-HUD cars. Some dealers listen to GM and refuse to sell the projectors. There are others that work with the forums to get this mod into their rides.

For the time being, I need more information. Are the mounting posts there in the 2010 Camaros? Has anyone had their dash apart? Does anyone have a service manual showing the instrument panel connector wiring?
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Old 04-25-2010, 11:09 AM   #149
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I would have loved that option on the 2010...
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Old 04-25-2010, 11:12 AM   #150
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That's all it does?? ... I really expected more for all the hype! Oh well, to each their own, but I wouldn't trade my 2SS in just to have that feature.

Basically, it just projects your speed ( and a few other small things ) on your window, but I would find it too distracting as I drive. I feel my eyes would be constantly drawn to it. I think the current dash board indicator is just fine for what I'm looking for and really wouldn't want to pay an extra $400 or so more for this.

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I agree with the distractions. I like the indicator between the analog guages. I don't know what i'd do without the digital speedo. That needle on the analog speed must cover 5 mph!
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