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Old 04-20-2010, 10:58 AM   #101
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Well the track would love to have us back in South Georgia the impression I got on Saturday after the car show portion and parade laps is that we will be back again next year.

I am sure the Camaro5 mods are going to look into this hard it is the perfect location after all the Fbody Gathering is entering it's 14th year at the same location and we still pack the cars in every year.

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Is it going to be in spring again? I know a bunch of people wanted to go but couldn't because of school or because their kids were still in school.
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Is it going to be in spring again? I know a bunch of people wanted to go but couldn't because of school or because their kids were still in school.
Yeah, April is a bad time for college/university students. Early May would work out better, right between the end of exams and going to work.
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Yeah, April is a bad time for college/university students. Early May would work out better, right between the end of exams and going to work.
That's definitely something to take into account.

If it were to be held in Texas, where would it be? I'd love to see it in Vegas, but I've never had real Texas brisket...

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That's definitely something to take into account.

If it were to be held in Texas, where would it be? I'd love to see it in Vegas, but I've never had real Texas brisket...

We have Texas Motor Speedway in Fort Worth, and several other venues.
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All in all, anywhere is fine for me, I just have to plan several months ahead to make it.

PS, Heartland Park (topeka ks) held the SCCA National Championships in '08 with like 1,100-1,200 Drivers... so it is ue to large crowds

Alternating East coast / West coast sounds like a cool idea too
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We are listening, guys...the next Fest is probably not going to be until '11 (the once annual thing seems to be a good formula)...but we're listening.
Awesome guys! Thanks for considering it at least..It was looking like you werent even giving it a thought earlier in the thread. Im sure theres a ton of West Coasters that feel the same as myself..I would loved to have been there this year but it was just too far of a trip.

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Someone should start a poll with say four options East/West/and a couple of mid points to get a feel for where attendies would travel to, to get a reference point.

I would have loved to have attended this years fest, and even seriously considered flying in for the two days, BUT I want to be there with My Camaro taking advantage of getting it autographed by Scott and others, driving in the rally, drag racing, etc. I would not expect it to be in So Calif (not that we dont have the weather for it) its to far for our other coasters. That being said however, we do have an event this coming Sat that was put together as an idea to get 100 c5's together for a picnic about 3 months ago (Tribone chime in). A one day meet has out grown the original venue, been picked up by a major Sponser (Stillen) to host at their location, with approaching some 150+ 5th gens, and surprises from other vendors as well. This is being attended by groups rallying down form Northern Calif, Airzona, Nevada, meeting up along the way very similar to the way you all did to Atlanta.

The point of this is that there is a lot of passion for our Camaros on this side of the Rockies and if we can bring over halve of the attendance that was at the Camaro5 Fest for one day, I think that supports trying to find some middle ground for next years Festival. Or if what wont work, next year in the West, the following back to the East and just alternate.

Just some considerations to throw in. Even the Power Tour and events like that change their areas covered each year as to allow everyone to be involved. Just remember were not a convention like SEMA where you fly in/fly out to see some cool things and latest trends. Its an expierence and you need your car there with you.
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I'm for having it in Valdosta, Ga again. The track was AWESOME, the Hotel was VERY,VERY NICE and VERY receptive to activities going on in the parking lot into the wee hours. The locals and restaurants were really receptive and Law Enforcement was very cool as well.

However, I'm not opposed to Atlanta, Bowling Green, Indianapolis areas if that were more centrally localized for everyone. I think attendance would really drop if it were on the West coast.
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Yeah, April is a bad time for college/university students. Early May would work out better, right between the end of exams and going to work.
I was thinking more June-ish...most colleges have been out for a while by then (except mine ) and all the parents with kids in grade school won't have to worry about that.
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You may lose some east coasters by going to a place like Vegas but you'll pick up a LOT more California people, midwesterners, and the die hards will find a way to get there from the East Coast...just like the die hards from the west coast and Canada found a way to get to the east coast.
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Hartland in Topeka can handle the crowd for sure. One thing that was a disappointment to me was the fact that the Saturday night track party didn't happen. I'm not sure what happened there but it was one of the main events where everyone would come together in one place and socialize. Let's make sure that our main socializing activity happens next year!
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I am all for Lost Wages if they happen to go out west perfect facilities just need to make sure we avoid (June-August, and late October-Early November because of SEMA as hotel rooms are jacked up and most places are sold out.

We would have no problem getting hotel rooms most of the strip hotels have large parking garages I am sure we could get one hotel to be the host hotel (My vote is the Wynn Las Vegas

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I am all for Lost Wages if they happen to go out west perfect facilities just need to make sure we avoid (June-August, and late October-Early November because of SEMA as hotel rooms are jacked up and most places are sold out.

We would have no problem getting hotel rooms most of the strip hotels have large parking garages I am sure we could get one hotel to be the host hotel (My vote is the Wynn Las Vegas

Sean

I like how you pick the most expensive hotel in Vegas,

How about the Hooters hotel? It's cheap and right next to the MGM grand on the strip...(giving that reason is just like saying "the wings are good" as a reason for going to Hooters)
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I"ve heard all these arguments for decades with conventions that don't even involve a car. The best solution after years of trial and error was to have a schedual that let the East attend one year and the West the next. Some may be able to do both.

That way you have lots of notice to plan for vacation time and your budget.

GTO clubs HAVE ALL BEEN THERE . Learn from their experience. Others have done East /West/ Central ............. then start over again. That gives the people who do all the hard work a rest so they do not burn out. It might be fun once or twice but the 3rd time it becomes too much like work.

Three Daze in May sound good to me.
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I am trying to talk them into having it in Topeka, KS.

Here is the track there. We could have dragstrip and road coarse. Pretty much the middle of the USA for all to hook up at.

http://www.hpt.com/
I have raced at the Heartland Topeka dragstrip several times and if I remember correctly the dragstip is actually a portion of the road course just like Sonoma Ca.

As far as a large speedway like Kansas, Texas, Atlanta, Talladega I am pretty sure they will not allow anyone to go fast on the speedway due to liabilities. I am a member of GoodGuys Rods & Custom and they hold a few car shows at the speedways and you actually get the chance to do 3 parade laps around with about 20-30 other cars with a pacecar in the lead doing 65-70mph. I expect that is all you will get out of any speedway.

SGMP & Valdosta has my vote.
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How about Indianapolis? O'Reilly Raceway Park is there...also a little oval track called the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
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I can tell you from my sales..and numbers I have seen GM post, FL and Texas are the two biggest Camaro markets historically along with California. Personally, the drive for me was 15 hours..and that is about as far as I am willing to drive for a car show..especially when we have our trailor and are displaying.

GA was nice...no real complaints. The only kink I really see is having the event 30 miles from the host city can be confusing. Also if the event gets bigger, I don't think the Holiday Inn can handle all the cars. I know once the first two hotels were booked, I ended up staying 2 miles away, which kinda seperated us.

I have been to shows in Bowling Green at the Vette museum and found that area great for a show like this. There was an F-body show in Sepetember there for several years that we went to. The Museum has tons of room, and is a great get together place. You can have seminars in the conference rooms, check out the Vettes, shop at the store, and tour the Corvette factory. There also are a lot of hotels in area because of all the car shows the museum has. As for a track, Beechbend raceway park is right there (also has drag strip and oval). Also another advantage is the Museum has these shows all year, and can handle a lot of the actual organizing and logistics.

In reality it will be a catch 22. If the same people organize it, it will be easiest to use the same place over again..especially if they are close to that area. If you move it every year, then it is like starting over, and the logistics are always an unknown beast. However if you keep it at the same place, there is also the chance that the location becomes stale. To get people to drive 10+ hours like many did will require something different every year.
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I like how you pick the most expensive hotel in Vegas,

How about the Hooters hotel? It's cheap and right next to the MGM grand on the strip...(giving that reason is just like saying "the wings are good" as a reason for going to Hooters)
my rates for the Wynn are only 89.00 per night Sun-Sat then again we are regulars

Other choices Mirage, Treasure Island, Monte Carlo, Mandalay Bay, ect.... The H(O)(O)TERS hotel and Casino no thanks I would rather stay at the Sahara Hotel & Casino.

I would be willing to drive to Texas as well
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my rates for the Wynn are only 89.00 per night Sun-Sat then again we are regulars

Other choices Mirage, Treasure Island, Monte Carlo, Mandalay Bay, ect.... The H(O)(O)TERS hotel and Casino no thanks I would rather stay at the Sahara Hotel & Casino.

I would be willing to drive to Texas as well
If we could book it for $89/night I'd be in like sin....but I thought the prices were like 3 times that...I'm probably wrong though.
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It makes sense to me to have the Fest located at three (maybe four) agreed upon locations around the country that rotate.

And since the Valdosta meet was such a huge success, I imagine that location is on lock from now on for the East Coast meet location, unless someone can come up with an extremely compelling reason to move it.

For the Central meet, it sounds like somewhere in Texas would make sense. Would be awesome if we could somehow use the Texas Motor Speedway just outside Fort Worth. I may be biased towards that, but I imagine if Kansas or other central state shows some awesome venues, that would make sense as well.

For the West Coast meet, it sounds like Vegas is a big hit. Maybe somewhere in Cali?

The big question then becomes, what order should the meets take place in? East (this year), Central (2011), West (2012), or do we do east, west, central?

I think the first vote should be polling where the next general vicinty ought to take place (central or west) and then based upon that we start weeding out some potential locations.

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Keep the discussion going!

We are really still reeling from the success of the first event...

I am talking to our C5F Sponsors, staff, SGMP, GM and our members on what the best way forward is....

Just some thoughts so you guys know where our heads are at.

Of course SGMP will remain the top contender for anything we do on the east coast.

Second. If you look at our membership, CA, AZ and NV have enough members alone to have a bigger showing than what we did this year. Just food for thought.

However, West coast events are usually much more expensive.

I do think we should at least have a west one year and East another year. We have been asked to consider two events a year but I have concerns that we may get sponsor limited and that it will be difficult to have GM attend both events. Obviously getting GM at any events is never a guarantee but two a year will make that more challenging.

So at this point I can only reasonably predict two things.

In the next year or so we will have an event that our west coast members can more easily attend.

I fully expect to be back at Valdosta Ga for future C5F's

It's way to early to say this is concrete but that is where our heads are at now. FWIW

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My preference would be Vegas. I would be willing to drive to Texas or Kansas, but Georgia is 45 hours drive each way. As said before, there is no way to make this happen on an annual basis and keep everyone happy with the location each year. Rotating the location every year between East and West locations makes a lot of sense to me.
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