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Old 04-19-2010, 12:57 AM   #1
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Small chips in the paint

I only have 3000 miles on my camaro and i've notices little chips on both sides of the car near where the fender flares out in front of the rear wheel. I will take some pics and post them.

Anyone else having this problem?
I took it to the dealer but of course they wanted to give me the run around instead of figuring out a way to fix it or possibly repaint it, they would rather try to find excuses as to why they should be responsible for fixing it.

Sad thing is the dealer even acknowledged that the paint is covered under warranty for one year or 12,000 miles.
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Old 04-19-2010, 12:58 AM   #2
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:00 AM   #3
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do you know if anyone is having an success with getting the dealers to repaint the car?
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:04 AM   #4
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:11 AM   #5
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I haven't heard of anybody getting their vehicle repainted by the dealer. Everyones using the 3m clear bra stuff. Me personally, I say get over it..you cant keep an every day driver in perfect condition. I have lots of chips everywhere and I have 1400 miles on mine and I noticed them at 500 lol, although it still bothers me to see the damage, Ive learned to accept that IT WILL HAPPEN.

P.S. same thing with the headlights..
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:20 AM   #6
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I normally wouldnt care but when you pay $35,000 for a car and they put a $500 paint job on it....
No way thats BS

I have a 97 Camaro that i've had for over 10 years and it dont have a chip anywhere on it. Nothing like this, they need to paint the cars better. thats crap
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:23 AM   #7
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:27 AM   #8
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they said they would touch it up but i know how those touch ups work ha, my mom is more pissed than I am about it, only reason i'm persuing it.
I'm just worried if they repaint that area, it wont match....
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:32 AM   #9
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either way, they will use the same crap paint... Im going to wait until it gets real bad in a year or two..lol..and then I'll get a real good paint job.
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:34 AM   #10
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I honestly dont think the paint is as big of a deal as the the clear coat. If they would have used a really good thick clear coat, it would have been 10 times better.
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:38 AM   #11
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I might consider getting this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-2...Q5fAccessories

Maybe I can get the dealer to pay for it somehow instead of repainting everything.
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:20 AM   #12
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At 4k myself my gills are perfect. I only have 1 chip so far. This seems to be a hit or miss problem. I have seen a lot of posts on this issue. Gm really needs to take a serious look at this problem. The car got off to a great start last thing they need is for the car to get a rep of a bad paint job.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:42 AM   #13
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I have the same exact problem. I have rock chips all over the fascia, got one on the hood the 3rd day I had it, and even now one on the passenger side gills. Every week when i wash it, i swear i find a new one. It frustrates me to no end, but considering I cant afford to re-paint the whole car, I just have to touch it up whenever I see em.

I blame GM for going cheap/thin on the paint and clear coat. GM loyalists on here will blame the EPA.... Take you pick who to blame, but the paint is poor quality and cheap, period.

If its not too late, get a 3M clear bra, or cough up the cash to get the entire car re-sprayed and re-cleared. Either way, it sucks when you love your car and have to watch it get damaged, no matter how small it may be.

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Old 04-19-2010, 12:28 PM   #14
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I have the same exact problem. I have rock chips all over the fascia, got one on the hood the 3rd day I had it, and even now one on the passenger side gills. Every week when i wash it, i swear i find a new one. It frustrates me to no end, but considering I cant afford to re-paint the whole car, I just have to touch it up whenever I see em.

I blame GM for going cheap/thin on the paint and clear coat. GM loyalists on here will blame the EPA.... Take you pick who to blame, but the paint is poor quality and cheap, period.

If its not too late, get a 3M clear bra, or cough up the cash to get the entire car re-sprayed and re-cleared. Either way, it sucks when you love your car and have to watch it get damaged, no matter how small it may be.

Best of luck!!

Yea i've washed mine about 4 times now and everytime it looks like my car got sand blasted in new spots. They tried to blame it on the wheels i put on there that they are wider. But how would that cause chips in front of the rear wheel? Do they really think its going to throw rocks foward and then hit the gills?? I'm gonna follow up on this issue best I can and if I have to park the car around 11,000 miles until they do fix it, I know they are just praying that I go over the warranty then its not their problem anymore.
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Old 04-19-2010, 12:31 PM   #15
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Check this thread out...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75685

I did get mine repainted by the dealer. Was just the front fascia though, i haven't had problems with the gills, splash guards really help with that.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:56 AM   #16
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we had that issue too and it doesnt match!!!
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:05 AM   #17
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Its not GM guys. I am not a GM fan... especially now that its Government Motors but I am a clear bra installer and I hear the same complaing in EVERY forum I go to. It doesnt matter wether its the Mustang, BMW, Corvette, Viper, Ferrari, or 6Speedonline.... everytone is complaining about the same issues. It is the EPA standards that have been implemented over the last few years. Even the Harley Davidson guys are bitching. GM is not going to repaint cars because their hands are tied. This will be something that we will all have to deal with from now on... and it will only get worse. I think the worst part of all of this is its OUR TAX DOLLARS that are paying for these morons at the EPA to regualte OUR LIVES. In the end it all only costs us more money... and if they push Cap And Trade through... we will all be hurting. Not to promote the product but getting a clear bra is really your only solution... or a bra period. Unless you want to repaint your car often... and replace headlights.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:33 AM   #18
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If your in Auburn Ca.I'm just a short drive down 80 in to Roseville if you want to stop the chips. i have my complete Camaro covered in clear bra. no rock chips,no scratches, no vandals able to key it,check out my garage pictures.and the work pics
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:50 AM   #19
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I was worried about my babies paint. So I added Quarter flares before she got any chips. Cheap insurance I say! Got them from the link below. They have the best prices I have found anywhere.





No scratches yet

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Old 04-20-2010, 10:58 AM   #20
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^ no scratches AND doesn't look bad either!

The EPA has nothing to do with this. Anyone that has some background in paint work knows this to be true. Maybe the EPA has something to due with the less than stellar amount of orange peel on the factory spec jobs, but it has nothing to do with chipping. Rock chips have plagued cars forever, and it will continue to do so. There are steps to fighting them - paint protection film AKA clear-bras, fender covers like the post above, and using harder clear-coats from the factory (exactly what Ferrari and Lamborghini now do: PPG's Cerami-Clear).

The design of the car with the rear fenders sticking out is the culprit. Much like a beautiful woman: so sexy...so annoying.
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:19 PM   #21
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If your in Auburn Ca.I'm just a short drive down 80 in to Roseville if you want to stop the chips. i have my complete Camaro covered in clear bra. no rock chips,no scratches, no vandals able to key it,check out my garage pictures.and the work pics
I'm actually in Auburn AL. How much do those clear bras cost? It sucks paying 35,000 for a car then another 1000 on a bra...
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^ no scratches AND doesn't look bad either!

The EPA has nothing to do with this. Anyone that has some background in paint work knows this to be true. Maybe the EPA has something to due with the less than stellar amount of orange peel on the factory spec jobs, but it has nothing to do with chipping. Rock chips have plagued cars forever, and it will continue to do so. There are steps to fighting them - paint protection film AKA clear-bras, fender covers like the post above, and using harder clear-coats from the factory (exactly what Ferrari and Lamborghini now do: PPG's Cerami-Clear).

The design of the car with the rear fenders sticking out is the culprit. Much like a beautiful woman: so sexy...so annoying.

I definately have to agree. I think they didn't clear coat the cars or if they did it was a very very thin clear coat. I know the EPA probably limits the kind of paint they can use, probably water based, however you put a 1/8 inch clear coat over any paint, problem solved... If I can get them to repaint mine i'm going straight to a paint shop to get a better clear coat, shouldn't be that much being they clear coat every car they paint.
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^ not quite OS

here's a better explanation I gave: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=48
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^ not quite OS

here's a better explanation I gave: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=48
I understand your reasoning, however the rock thing is a little off. If a car in front of you runs over a rock, it doesn't sling the rock back it only picks the rock up into the air. The rock would be traveling with the motion of the car, say the car passes at 70 mph and runs over the rock throwing it into the air. The rock is going to travel in the direction of the car at a much slower rate possibly 15 mph, it doesn't sling the rock backwards that's not possible the cars tires would have to be spinning faster than the rate the car was traveling forward, ie spinning tires. So traveling behind this car at the same speed would mean the rock hits your car at the speed you are traveling 70 mph minus the speed the rock is also traveling in the same direction 15 mph = 65 mph, now given that's still enough to do damage, here's the big question:

Why is this happening to new cars especially camaros and not to older cars? I have a 97 Camaro with 130,000 miles on it and not one chip in the paint on the front end. And the front end is made of the same plastic but its black and my car is white so if it did chip they would be very noticeable.

What are they doing different now that they weren't doing then. In a years time my 97 camaro's paint job is gonna look better than my 2010.
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Like I stated above, it is what can be used in paints and clear coats these days... which is governed by the EPA. Do some research on the net. There is a ton of information out there... and it is across the board. Dont beleive me... go into any other car forum and do a search for rock chips. I go through about 12 different ones a day and its a hot topic in every single one.
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