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Old 10-10-2008, 07:50 PM   #76
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I am going to try to explain my thoughts on this subject.

I know some of you are pissed and are upset, I started this thread because I noticed it and I was shocked.

But now after thinking about it for a while, I have come to some conclusions about both the Blue color situation, and Red Jewel situation...

Red Jewel is an extra $$$ paint option, to offer it on the base car is in a way, contradicting itself. Why would GM put an extra cost option on a car that most people want to buy because it is cheap...hence, the BASE MODEL. Personally, if I was looking for a base car, I wouldnt want to spend extra money on a paint job....so that is my reasoning there.

As for the 2 blue colors...Blue's have never historically or modernly been a "performance color"...(I know some will argue with me on this... ) But it hasnt...I think the SS is more of a performance sports machine, where the V-6 models are more of an everyday car that people would be able to get more options/colors on.

I know it may not make sense, but if you think about it logically, there is a reason for it, and GM does have a business case to make. So PERSONALLY I can totally understand why they did it.

I just wanted to voice my thoughts...sorry to all the people who love blue and wanted an SS....as for me, its Cyber Gray or Victory Red
I beg to differ...

Blue w/ white stripes has been in the performance game for a VERY long time.
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first gens were avail in blue with white stripes.
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I beg to differ...

Blue w/ white stripes has been in the performance game for a VERY long time.


i concur ol' Chap

penske camaros were blue....
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I beg to differ...

Blue w/ white stripes has been in the performance game for a VERY long time.
Agreed. The two colors I hear people rave about most in 1st gens are Marina Blue Metallic and Hugger Orange. We have our modern day Hugger...but NO BLUE at all seems silly. One of the prettiest colors on the 4th gen LS1 cars is Navy Blue Metallic.


The only reasoning I can think of is that they really want to push to V6 cars...but do they seriously think they are going to push an enthusiast into a V6 when they really want real american muscle?!?!? I think not.
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As for the 2 blue colors...Blue's have never historically or modernly been a "performance color"...(I know some will argue with me on this... ) But it hasnt...I think the SS is more of a performance sports machine, where the V-6 models are more of an everyday car that people would be able to get more options/colors on.
so you're saying that our 2002 NBM Firehawk isn't "sporty"?



how about the Corvette Grand Sport?





or 2004 LeMans Blue Z16 Z06?





sorry, but GM has a loooooooong heritage of Blue Sports cars
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If any color isn't sporty, its white. It just screams "rental car" to me.

I can see offering only one blue on the SS. It isn't all that unusual to see some colors not offered on upper-level trims (not saying that makes any sense, because it doesn't) but to have two shades of one EXTREMELY popular color and not offer either of them on the SS apparently just because you don't feel like it is ridiculous.

I agree with others who are saying that if they're going to drop this much money on a car, they can't compromise on color. Going for the SS is a stretch for me even a few years from now when I'll get it, and I simply won't drop that money if I have to settle for a color I don't want just because someone at GM arbitrarily decided that SS buyers shouldn't get blue. Unless GM decides to fix this mistake if they want to sell me an SS then they'll have to knock enough off the price to pay for a repaint.
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I too wanted Imperial blue with white stripes and of course white interior. I have since settled for my second choice, Silver. This just kinda shows that GM does not read this "stuff" on here like it has been stated. However, I know Scott does...so I am not at all "dogging" him. There have been many people on here that stated they wanted one of the two blues on an SS......so why did this not happen?:(
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Maybe they have a special edition in the works for a blue? Not necessarily a Z/28, but maybe something similar to a Shelby GT.

I don't think the guys at GM would do this unless they had a REALLY good reason.
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A. The car you want doesn't come in blue. It's not the end of the world.

B. Imperial Blue Metallic is _very_ dark. Even in direct sunlight, you have to really focus to tell it's not black.

C. Aqua Blue Metallic is girly.

Blue is right at the top of my list of favorite car colors, but after seeing the blues offered on the Camaro in the flesh on other GM cars, I'm not really all that disappointed they won't be available on the SS. Other manufacturers have much deeper, richer shades.

The grass is always greener though, right?
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I do wish GM's blue was a bit brighter. My GT's in Vista Blue with white stripes, and in the sun it's the best color you've ever seen.
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and make no mistake, it ISNT a deal breaker to me... but it will be to others... we had already decided on a Cyber Gray car... so its not going to stop us... but what about others? what about people who dearly love blue as a color... and they'd willingly buy one if it was offered... but choose to keep their current car or buy another company's product because they can't get what they want from GM... Ford offers a blue... Dodge offers a blue... why is GM NOT offering a blue? haven't we had enough of GM telling us, the customers, "you can't have what you want" in reference to the Z28? why limit the possibilities on a car that GM is calling a "global car"? all we're asking for is answers or changes... either one is acceptable... but "we can't talk about it" is just plain silly.
Thank you!!!! There a couple of reasons this is important and a mistake. Someone said something about good business. Well, considering GM's very poor financial condition right now, it seems to be a SMART decision to give the higher-paying car buyer an option that is really already there... Just paint our SS with what you already have!

Additionally, I've wanted a blue top of the line Camaro for at least 10 years now. And now that I'm in the position (barely) to afford my dream car, which has been my favorite pretty much since I ever cared about cars, GM tells me I can't have it. Again, I've saved up what little extra I make as an underpaid cop, and GM slaps me in the face (it feels like it anyway) and says I can't have blue, but I can have any of the other colors available... And I doubt they're saving it for a special edition. Why would they use a color that is only available on the lower, base model for a limited edition model? That wouldn't exactly set it apart.

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A. The car you want doesn't come in blue. It's not the end of the world.

B. Imperial Blue Metallic is _very_ dark. Even in direct sunlight, you have to really focus to tell it's not black.

C. Aqua Blue Metallic is girly.

Blue is right at the top of my list of favorite car colors, but after seeing the blues offered on the Camaro in the flesh on other GM cars, I'm not really all that disappointed they won't be available on the SS. Other manufacturers have much deeper, richer shades.

The grass is always greener though, right?
I'm sorry, but for you to come here in your first post and say a color is girly is an insult, and poor taste. Secondly, I've personally seen Imperial blue on a Cobalt, and it's not very dark, not to me. You DON'T have to stare at it to tell it's black. And that is the color I wanted. I think it looks very nice, and very sporty. I always liked the NBM on the 4th gen cars, and THAT is a color that was dark, but you could still tell it wasn't black. You're right, it's not the end of the world, but for someone who's had a passionate dream, for quite some time, this just stinks. And other manufacturers may have "nicer" shades... personally, I really like the Mustang blue, but Ford isn't painting my Camaro unfortunately. And as I said, I'm using pretty much all my available extra money to afford this car, and to have to go out and spend ANOTHER $3k to $5k for a paint color that is already there is unacceptable.

And to ChrisL, I hear what you're saying about making my voice heard at the dealership, but unfortunately I have not put down any deposit yet, and I find it hard to believe my dealer would care about a phone call from someone saying they won't be buying a Camaro any time soon because blue is not an option on the SS... I could be wrong though.
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Easy there. I'm just saying, as a member of the male population, I would not feel comfortable driving around in a turquoise camaro.

Look at it this way: the RX-8 Shinka was a great car, but only if you wanted to be known as the guy who drives a purple Mazda. In the same way that some colors just "work" on a car, others just . . . don't.
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I'm sorry, but for you to come here in your first post and say a color is girly is an insult, and poor taste. Secondly, I've personally seen Imperial blue on a Cobalt, and it's not very dark, not to me. You DON'T have to stare at it to tell it's black. And that is the color I wanted. I think it looks very nice, and very sporty. I always liked the NBM on the 4th gen cars, and THAT is a color that was dark, but you could still tell it wasn't black. You're right, it's not the end of the world, but for someone who's had a passionate dream, for quite some time, this just stinks. And other manufacturers may have "nicer" shades... personally, I really like the Mustang blue, but Ford isn't painting my Camaro unfortunately. And as I said, I'm using pretty much all my available extra money to afford this car, and to have to go out and spend ANOTHER $3k to $5k for a paint color that is already there is unacceptable.


I was thinking the same!
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works or does not work. I think from what I have read here that blue does work for the masses.
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i concur ol' Chap

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Easy there. I'm just saying, as a member of the male population, I would not feel comfortable driving around in a turquoise camaro.

Look at it this way: the RX-8 Shinka was a great car, but only if you wanted to be known as the guy who drives a purple Mazda. In the same way that some colors just "work" on a car, others just . . . don't.
Have you seen Aqua Blue in person? It isn't turquoise at all. It looks that way in the GM photoshops, but if you look at the pictures we have on this site, it looks very different.

GM really should be reading this. 5 pages and counting of just hating this idea. Wow.
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Why couldn't they have done this:

LS/LT: Aqua Blue, Red Jewel Tintcoat

SS: Imperial Blue, Victory Red

That way you could get red or blue, no matter which Camaro you ordered.
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The current status of the American economy and the scary activity in the stock market this last week have me very afraid of spending money on anything that I want but really don't need. I've decided to wait for at least a year and see what else happens before even thinking about buying a Camaro SS.

Blue not being available on the SS actually makes waiting easier for me.

I have owned three yellow cars over the years. I drive a black Fiero GT now and used to have a black Firebird Trans Am. Don't want another yellow car or black car. I currently also have a medium silver car and a bright red car. I obviously like silver and red, but I do not want a Camaro in either shade of silver or either shade of red. My previous daily driver was a white Fiero GT. I liked the Fiero but not the white color. I will not get another white car. I had a hugger orange with black stripes '70-1/2 Z/28 Camaro years ago. Not sure if I like the metallic orange color for the new Camaro. Also not sure an orange car would look that good parked next to my red car. But a nice blue Camaro SS with white stripes would have looked great next to my red car (which has black stripes).
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Guys, if you want blue, just get the damn thing painted. You could even get a Camaro in white and leave part of it white for a striping effect.

In no way should this be a deal breaker.

Besides, maybe they're saving a Le Mans-type blue for another model... That's one of the only reasons that makes sense, especially since ChrisL said they can't talk about it.
I'll get it painted if the can sell it to me in primer with a $1000 "paint delete" option. Okay?

If I want to spend thousands of dollars to correct the shortcomings of a car that's this expensive, why not just buy another car that comes with everything already on it that I want?
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Cyber Gray is available on all Corvettes, not just the ZR1.

I stand corrected. Your absolutely right!

I still stand firm on my point though.
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This is a sad day for me... I have been daydreaming about my blue SS nonstop for the last several months and I totally feel this is a slap in the face. This is my dream car, I wanted to order it exactly the way I want it. I wasn't going to before but I think I might have to go test drive a challenger now, (I'll at least give Dodge a chance before I drive the camaro)
GM: give the customer what they want, dont tell us what we are going to drive. Your stock dropped by almost 50% this week and now your trying to alienate your target audience???
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that's not the point, sir... and to imply that it is "just that easy," is to ignore that if you buy a car for $XX,XXX, then you have to add $3,000 worth of paint to it to get a color that is OFFERED on the V6 model, is preposterous... read my post above and you'll see that this is as much a slap to the enthusiast as it is a limiting of color choices.
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No blue on the SS....
I wasn't going to get one in blue, personally (Cyber Gray stole my heart )-- but GM, Chevy...Cheryl, Camaro TEAM...

Whatever the reasoning, This is a REALLY, REALLY bad move. I sincerely hope you change your minds, and decide to offer blue on the SS or else you'll be missing out on valuable customers over a color!! That's unnecessary...

You could introduce it into the lineup like you will introduce white (a little later). But there MUST be a blue option on the SS..
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This is F%^&*+! ridiculous! Im not interested in the SS (dont need that much power) but that doesnt mean I dont want see em on the streets in BLUE, You would think one of the two blues would make it onto the top dog camaro. VERY DISAPOINTED!!!!!!!
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Thanks for chiming in Dragon. I was getting worried that maybe this was just some of us overreacting to a perceived slight, but it is comforting to know that a very active mod who doesn't even personally want blue anyway thinks this is a bad move.
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