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Old 08-07-2006, 06:12 PM   #15
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I have some questions that I haven't seen the answers to yet.

A: Will there be a racing stripe option (ala the 67-73 Camaro)
B: Will houndstooth interior be an option
C: If they are going to produce these cars for the 2008 model year, when will they be available for order or to purchase? (fall of '07 or fall of the next year?) The only reason I ask is becasue the 1970 Camaro was not available until winter of 1970, it didn't come out in the fall......
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Old 08-07-2006, 06:17 PM   #16
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I want one so bad I started saving for this car in 03 in a special fund.
I will be on the list of preorders at nash chevrolet in Lawerenceville ,ga...
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Old 08-07-2006, 06:36 PM   #17
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FWIW, the Camaro Z28 was the "top tier" Camaro.

If I was a betting man, I'll bet you'll see the Z28 return atop the Camaro lineup.
You would loose that bet...

The SS has always been the top dog, excluding COPO vehicles back in the 60's and early 70's. 1967 to 1969 Z28 were all 302 cars. 67 to 69 SS models had the 350 and 396. 70 to 73 Z28 had the 350. 70 to 73 SS had the 350 and 396 (402). 1974 was the last year of the Z28 until 1977 when the Z28 was brought back. The Z28 has always been a entry level V8 sport coupe.
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:09 PM   #18
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I cant wait to get my hands on this great machine! This will be my first Camaro, I love my Chevelles, but there is something unmistakeably beautiful about this car. I own 2 mustangs, a 69, and 90conv, but I was raised a chevy man, and to finally be ordering my first new musclecar, sends chills down my spine. I have 3 posters, 1 of which I bribed from my local Chevrolet dealer a month ago, when I put my money down on the Camaro. Now I can get rid of the Mustangs and go back to my heritage proudly. Long live the NEW CAMARO. chevelleman6769@yahoo.com
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:03 PM   #19
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"C: If they are going to produce these cars for the 2008 model year, when will they be available for order or to purchase? (fall of '07 or fall of the next year?) The only reason I ask is becasue the 1970 Camaro was not available until winter of 1970, it didn't come out in the fall......"

That's because they had trouble and were late with the redesign so they had to release it that late. No one knows whats going to happen till it's closer. Lately when they release it that late they just attribute it to the next model year, no one want's to buy a brand new production model and a couple weeks later be last years model. Ie the traiblazer came out in jan feb 01 as a 2002 model.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:13 PM   #20
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To the guy that said there will probably be a camaro Z06...There will never be a camaro Z06!!! It is a performance code for the vette...has been since like the 60s. The guy who said that the 67-69 302 Z28 was entry level..Yes the SS had larger engines...but the Z28 was by no means entry level, you could get a base level camaro with a 307 and I belive a 350. the 302s were screemers. ask anybody who had one. they had close to 7k redline, were used for racing and the Z28 code was for camaro what Z06 was for corvette. The SS was a different look/attitude. Its like the dodge daytonas of the 80's, you could get a little 4 banger with a turbo or a much larger V-6...they were both about the same speed espeacially the turbo 1 without the intercooler. Its the 80's/90's that blurred the origonal meaning to rally sport and super sport. you couldnt get a camaro that wasnt an Iroc z28 or RS from 88-92...and from 98-02 the ss was just an LS1 from the Z28 with ram air and slp exhaust.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:52 PM   #21
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FWIW, the Camaro Z28 was the "top tier" Camaro.

If I was a betting man, I'll bet you'll see the Z28 return atop the Camaro lineup.
If I'm not mistaken the z28 was more powerful if not comparable than the SS only in the 1970-1972 model years, as far as before that the z/28 was only an option code for the regular camaro, with the same performance as noted before and it was still not an actual designated model till 70. Then after 1972 there were no more Camaro SS produced till 1996 after witch they took the 24 year rein over from the z28 as the top model in performance and price. Nothing against the z28 legendary performance but more people correctly associate the SS at the top performer. Sad that GM has practically ruined the SS name by branding everything with it as that models top performer. It should have been saved for only a select few, corvette,camaro,impala.
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:25 PM   #22
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"...and from 98-02 the ss was just an LS1 from the Z28 with ram air and slp exhaust." I beleive For some of those years the LT4 was offered as an SS option. I could be mistaken, but won't be the only year more than 1 engine was offered in the SS.
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:41 PM   #23
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Hi everyone!

New member here, so happy I finally found a forum to talk about specifically the 5th gen Camaro. Excellent!

I hope these rumours are true that come Thursday, Mr. Wagoner is going to make this dream a reality.

This is great news.
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:55 PM   #24
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To the guy that said there will probably be a camaro Z06...There will never be a camaro Z06!!! It is a performance code for the vette...has been since like the 60s. The guy who said that the 67-69 302 Z28 was entry level..Yes the SS had larger engines...but the Z28 was by no means entry level, you could get a base level camaro with a 307 and I belive a 350. the 302s were screemers. ask anybody who had one. they had close to 7k redline, were used for racing and the Z28 code was for camaro what Z06 was for corvette. The SS was a different look/attitude. Its like the dodge daytonas of the 80's, you could get a little 4 banger with a turbo or a much larger V-6...they were both about the same speed espeacially the turbo 1 without the intercooler. Its the 80's/90's that blurred the origonal meaning to rally sport and super sport. you couldnt get a camaro that wasnt an Iroc z28 or RS from 88-92...and from 98-02 the ss was just an LS1 from the Z28 with ram air and slp exhaust.
Your right , I should have stated it this way, “Excluding the 67 to 69 model years, the Z28 has always been a entry level V8 sport coupe”.

Yes the 302 was a screamer, high horse at high RPM’s, no torque. The combo worked well in the Trans Am circuit where cubic inch restrictions were a factor. As for the street, drag, and yes even road courses, the 350 and 396 would eat it for dinner. Lets not forget that these cars handle like dog crap unless traveling in a strait line. As for 77 on up, the Z28 was the only performance package available until 96, usually just a suspension upgrade, a v8, and some kind of interior and stripe package. Lets try not to remember the 80’s. Oh the mighty 305…
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:05 AM   #25
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I'm sure we'll get those answers on Thurs...I don't see why they couldn't offer up houndstooth. Cloth should be standard but it would be nice to see some options. Personally, I like the leather w/ orange stitching. Hope it's a nicer leather than before. GM should offer a stripe package. They did before on the 4th gens (usually RS, though). Who knows how they'll do the orders.

I doubt they will actually announce all of the options the car will have. They will probably just announce the production of the Camaro w/ the engine sizes and types, SS, Z28, etc. I'm curious to know if they are going to keep the independant rear suspension. I'd like to see how that rides.

Also, I think GM making the Z28 w/ the largest and fastest engine would just plain screw w/ everyones minds. People now know the Camaro SS to be the fastest. They'll keep it the same.
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:50 AM   #26
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Knowing that there won't be a model for sale for at least a year. I doubt that they will anounce performance specs, and give the competition a heads up, Lutz did say in january the ls2 concept car would be an SS type model but given the last 8 months of unpresidented overnight increase in hp in the auto industry who knows what could happen. It very well maybe a modified ls2 with even more horsepower or just a stock ls2. The best thing we can hope for is for the LS9 to be put in the vette as the optional upgrade and the c06 current engine to become the base. Then given recent history we might have a 505 at wheels 550 or so at the crank camaro ss or zl1. Don't expect it to be cheap do.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:22 PM   #27
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I'm sure we'll get those answers on Thurs...I don't see why they couldn't offer up houndstooth.....GM should offer a stripe package. They did before on the 4th gens (usually RS, though). Who knows how they'll do the orders.

......I'm curious to know if they are going to keep the independant rear suspension. I'd like to see how that rides.

Also, I think GM making the Z28 w/ the largest and fastest engine would just plain screw w/ everyones minds. People now know the Camaro SS to be the fastest. They'll keep it the same.
I plan to save for a camaro also. I wanted to comment on what you talked about above.

1) They probably will offer a houndstooth seats.
2) I think it's safe to say Camaro will in no way shape or form have independent suspension in the back (unless camaro is intended to be priced like a GTO). too many V8 Camaro owners intend to completely destroy and anihilate every single drivetrain component located behind the transmission so it's a bad idea to sell them a car with IRS.
3) others should not argue about SS and Z28 models because GM will decide whats up with that.
4) The real question is what is being used for the FRONT suspension. Hopefully double wishbones and NOT struts. I don't know what that zeta or beta design uses.

5) others should be prepared for high marked up prices when these cars finally exist at dealerships. i will wait it out and get a convertible way after the market is saturated and the flaws from first production runs are fixed.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:48 PM   #28
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Just my 2 cents, again, , but I say, lets just sit back and enjoy that fact that the Camaro is back!

I was in error re; which model is "top", and as stated previously, let GM decide how they'll "structure" the models, and "we" can start saving our money, while loking forward to enjoying the new Camaro.
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