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Old 10-24-2008, 01:38 AM   #1
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is there a gmpp cam option?

i didn't see an option for a cam..just the a. intake, headers, and catback. if there is do i jus5t tell my dealer thats what i want?
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:40 AM   #2
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there is a cam they can order, i dont know if they include it on that slip though.
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:00 AM   #3
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I think we'll find out more after SEMA
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:18 AM   #4
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i didn't see an option for a cam..just the a. intake, headers, and catback. if there is do i jus5t tell my dealer thats what i want?
Not at this point in time.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:57 AM   #5
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Any chance you will offer a tune to go along with the CAI, headers and exhaust that maintains warranty?
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:09 PM   #6
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Would a GMPP cam have an affect on the factory warranty...forgive me if this seems to be a ridiculous question.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:06 AM   #7
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Would a GMPP cam have an affect on the factory warranty...forgive me if this seems to be a ridiculous question.
Yes it voids the powertrain warrantee.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:56 AM   #8
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Yes it voids the powertrain warrantee.
Are you speaking from a position of authority or experience? I just want to qualify any responses.

The reason I ask is that for BMW's, Dinan parts installed by dealers do not void the warranty. In a manner of speaking they do, but it's transparent to the consumer. I would think that GMPP would have some sort of arrangement in order to promote the sale/installation of their parts. If the warranty is void, then it really offers me very little benefit to buy from GMPP....or I'm missing what the benefit is.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:06 AM   #9
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Are you speaking from a position of authority or experience? I just want to qualify any responses.

The reason I ask is that for BMW's, Dinan parts installed by dealers do not void the warranty. In a manner of speaking they do, but it's transparent to the consumer. I would think that GMPP would have some sort of arrangement in order to promote the sale/installation of their parts. If the warranty is void, then it really offers me very little benefit to buy from GMPP....or I'm missing what the benefit is.
You'll get a shorter warranty over the parts that GMPP installs, but your stock warranty will be no good if the cam causes something to break.
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You'll get a shorter warranty over the parts that GMPP installs, but your stock warranty will be no good if the cam causes something to break.

but the transmission still wont be covered aswell as the rest of the drive train due to any damage "caused" by the added power
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but the transmission still wont be covered aswell as the rest of the drive train due to any damage "caused" by the added power
That's why aftermarket installs need to be done meticulously and by someone who will take the time and money to install supporting mods.
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You'll get a shorter warranty over the parts that GMPP installs, but your stock warranty will be no good if the cam causes something to break.
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but the transmission still wont be covered aswell as the rest of the drive train due to any damage "caused" by the added power
Where did you get this information from?
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:18 AM   #13
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one of robin's other posts. really what determines what will be covered and what wont is how invasive the instal will be, you get deeper into the motor and it is more and more likely it will break warranty. that being said i personally see NO way that this drive train doesn't take the brute force added by the gmpp hot cam. and with the reliabilty of LS series engines i see very low chances anyone will ever have an engine problem.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:22 AM   #14
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I'm doing some research....and here's what I've found:


For a GMPP supercharger (not LS3)...
"The GM Performance Parts supercharger kit is on sale now. It costs about $3,500 and carries a product warranty for defects in material and workmanship for a period of 12 months or 12,000 miles from date of installation. GM will also cover the internally lubricated engine and transmission components for the length of the original factory powertrain warranty. And if the vehicle is already off factory warranty, the additional powertrain warranty that comes with the kit still applies, depending on the age and actual mileage of the vehicle at the time of the blower's installation.
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I also read on another forum (unqualified source) that if the part is marked 'off road use only' that's the indicator that it will void factory warranty. I'd really like to hear someone from GMPP chime in on this topic.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:31 AM   #15
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Maybe I'm lost, but I can't find any superchargers on GMPP's site for sale....specifically a $3,500 supercharger. I'm really curious to check that out....especially if its only 3,5.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:36 AM   #16
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Maybe I'm lost, but I can't find any superchargers on GMPP's site for sale....specifically a $3,500 supercharger. I'm really curious to check that out....especially if its only 3,5.
supercharger for a 4cylinder ecotec......
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:37 AM   #17
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Maybe I'm lost, but I can't find any superchargers on GMPP's site for sale....specifically a $3,500 supercharger. I'm really curious to check that out....especially if its only 3,5.
as I mentioned...this was not for the LS3 and is probably discontinued...it was the one of the few references I could find regarding GMPP and factory warranty.

Here's the kit the article was referring to, but it's not showing up on the current GMPP catalog: http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=167186

It would boost your Pontiac Vibe from 145 to 200.

edit...looks like this one was in the 2006 catalog:

http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/gm-pa...-fullsize.html
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:49 AM   #18
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I'm used to SC'ers running $6,5 to $7k...which is why I was interested in seeing what they had. I read a part of the article where it talked about it being for a 4. ...was just curious to check it out since there was a SC for 3,5...not necessarily for my price point....but for comparison.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:52 PM   #19
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I'm doing some research....and here's what I've found:


For a GMPP supercharger (not LS3)...
"The GM Performance Parts supercharger kit is on sale now. It costs about $3,500 and carries a product warranty for defects in material and workmanship for a period of 12 months or 12,000 miles from date of installation. GM will also cover the internally lubricated engine and transmission components for the length of the original factory powertrain warranty. And if the vehicle is already off factory warranty, the additional powertrain warranty that comes with the kit still applies, depending on the age and actual mileage of the vehicle at the time of the blower's installation.
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I also read on another forum (unqualified source) that if the part is marked 'off road use only' that's the indicator that it will void factory warranty. I'd really like to hear someone from GMPP chime in on this topic.
I'm almost certain that you are citing the Cavalier supercharger kit. That 2.2L EcoTec supercharger was a good part, but it was a special part. It was designed within the limitations of that engine's internal components, which could handle up to 250hp. This number is based on the limitations of the 2004 2.2L EcoTec. The same limitations are recommended in the build book for the Chevrolet Cobalt.

This particular GMPP kit was designed for a particular engine. If I'm wrong, GMPP tends to design specific parts for specific cars anyway. In the case of the Camaro, similar parts may be developed. Each part that GM designs may have a different warranty. It is up to GMPP to designate a part-specific warranty based on whether the car's original components will last for the remainder of the original warranty or whether the car is no longer streetable.
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Old 10-26-2008, 03:05 PM   #20
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I'm almost certain that you are citing the Cavalier supercharger kit. That 2.2L EcoTec supercharger was a good part, but it was a special part. It was designed within the limitations of that engine's internal components, which could handle up to 250hp. This number is based on the limitations of the 2004 2.2L EcoTec. The same limitations are recommended in the build book for the Chevrolet Cobalt.

This particular GMPP kit was designed for a particular engine. If I'm wrong, GMPP tends to design specific parts for specific cars anyway. In the case of the Camaro, similar parts may be developed. Each part that GM designs may have a different warranty. It is up to GMPP to designate a part-specific warranty based on whether the car's original components will last for the remainder of the original warranty or whether the car is no longer streetable.
Yes it was...as I mentioned...I was simply looking for any information regarding GMPP and factory warranties and that is the only example that I could find that stated effect definitively one way or the other. I appears that no one has a clear answer one way or the other...so...I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:37 PM   #21
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If you could keep the warranty that would be sick because an ls3 with an intake and a cam can make around 490rwhp.
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Read this thread for more info:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8779

Robin (GMPP) states part numbers and other items needed to install the Hot Cam, but also states it would VOID your drivetrain warranty. (I'm bummed about this one)
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Read this thread for more info:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8779

Robin (GMPP) states part numbers and other items needed to install the Hot Cam, but also states it would VOID your drivetrain warranty. (I'm bummed about this one)
what were you expecting? the engine and transmission is rated for a certain amount of power, if you make the engine go over those ratings why should they warranty it.
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wow! looks like i have a lot of things to be concerned when adding gmpp parts...i FEEL the need 4 SPEED so i'll have to go for it!
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Thank you for the people who cleared that up this is first time I've looked at this thread since I last posted.
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