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Old 11-02-2008, 06:58 PM   #26
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Yeah that would be great to know, as I don't really know much about engine modding. How much hp would it take to make up for the lower torque of the 6?
not much really, the thing to keep in mind is not peak numbers. trailered dyno queens can keep their peak numbers, id rather have useable power under the curve.

what i mean by that, is that if it makes... say 275lb-ft at peak, but the torque curve is relativly flat at say 250lb-ft from 2500rpm up to say 6300rpm where the peak power is, then you are better off as it has more power under the curve to use at lower rpms instead of having to rev the crap out of the motor and only using the upper 2-3k rpm to move the car.
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:40 PM   #27
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^ah ok thanks CamaroSpike, so the max torque listed is just the torque at max rpm, and it varies as the rpm varies? And so for just regular driving it would be best to look at which car has the highest area under the torque/rpm curve?
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Yeah that would be great to know, as I don't really know much about engine modding. How much hp would it take to make up for the lower torque of the 6?
Another thing to keep in mind is that you can't increase horsepower without increasing torque, because torque is used to measure horsepower.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:48 PM   #29
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To be specific, horsepower = (torque*RPM)/5280.

And the exhaust system used by D3 is a corsa cat back, not a full exhaust. And there was no tune involved (the box hasn't been cracked yet). As for the 0-60 and whatnot, I've never really trusted Road and Track, especially seeing how Car and driver did it faster in a stock CTS. That, and the CTS is heavier than the camaro and has smaller (235) tires.
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^ah ok thanks CamaroSpike, so the max torque listed is just the torque at max rpm, and it varies as the rpm varies? And so for just regular driving it would be best to look at which car has the highest area under the torque/rpm curve?
honestly, the more torque you can make down low is the best for a DD (gas mileage) as you dont have to spin the crap out of the motor to move the car. idealy if you can accelerat to cruise and stay under 2500rpms you are doing good.

i can tell you now that the v-6 will have plenty of useable torque under the curve. i still want to see a full dyno of the car/motor tho


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Another thing to keep in mind is that you can't increase horsepower without increasing torque, because torque is used to measure horsepower.

actually you can... but what it does is changes the rpms of things. for instance, ive seen long tube header installations that have actually lowered the torque of a car, but raised the hp and also raised the power band itself by a few hundred rpms. also seen where it raised both torque and hp with the same header install on a same year/model car.

hp, tq, rpm change any one of them and you change them all
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I guess I need to start being more detailed then lol.
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Whoever said 304 HP is basing that on the Caddy's HP, which isnt entirely accurate. The engine is not a clone. Motor Trend has built a reputation for knowing their stuff, and calling the BS, and they say 310. I guess we shall see though.
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I guess I need to start being more detailed then lol.
its all good. believe me, i dont know how many times ive posted something up then had to go thru about 30 posts to clarify what I was talking about


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Whoever said 304 HP is basing that on the Caddy's HP, which isnt entirely accurate. The engine is not a clone. Motor Trend has built a reputation for knowing their stuff, and calling the BS, and they say 310. I guess we shall see though.
good pt. tho I could still care less what the peak power is. I wanna see the dyno sheet.
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5252.101 not 5280.
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