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RyanG · 04-27-2010, 11:13 AM

Yeah! Maybe the next gen Camaro will still have a V8!

Link: GM to build new V8

General Motors Co. said Tuesday it will invest more than $850 million to upgrade five North American factories to make its next-generation V8 engines more fuel efficient.

The new V8s will differ from the current versions by using direct injection and a new combustion system, spokeswoman Sharon Basel said. The next-generation engines will also be lighter. GM will build them exclusively from aluminum, compared with the current versions' aluminum and iron makeup, Basel said. All of the engines will be able to run on E85 ethanol.

To build the engines, GM will renovate or retool powertrain factories in Tonawanda, N.Y.; Bay City, Mich.; Bedford, Ind.; Defiance, Ohio; and St. Catharines, Ontario.

GM uses its current V-8 family of engines in full-sized pickups, SUVs, vans and some performance cars, Basel said.

“There is no doubt that a major differentiator going forward will be powertrain technology,” said Michael Robinet, vice president at research firm CSM Worldwide in Northville, Mich. “Heavy investment and improved fuel economy will be on every company's agenda.”

brandotron · 04-27-2010, 11:16 AM

This is the beginning of the Gen V smallblock!

Rogue Leader · 04-27-2010, 11:16 AM

i just hope everyone hee who whined this will be the last V8 camaro reads this and eats their crow for lunch.

rez333 · 04-27-2010, 11:19 AM

the sky will always be falling to some people

Hylton · 04-27-2010, 11:20 AM

Extremely good news!

CamaroSkooter · 04-27-2010, 11:20 AM

'Twas the Night Before Christmas shall now read:

"...with visions of direct-injected V8's with aluminum blocks danced in their heads..."

Edit: Post # 2,000. I have a long way to go

StangKiller818 · 04-27-2010, 11:20 AM

haha very true

DarricSS · 04-27-2010, 11:21 AM

Will still have the V/8 that's good, but it's going to sound allot different with DI ...that kinda sucks, but gotta' change with the times...

Hylton · 04-27-2010, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

i just hope everyone hee who whined this will be the last V8 camaro reads this and eats their crow for lunch.

I don't see the relavance to this story but the real question is whether or not the V8 will be the base engine in the SS camaro for gen 6.

ron10 · 04-27-2010, 11:24 AM

should help get in line with mustang weight.

2010 SSRS · 04-27-2010, 11:26 AM

More Horsepower

*The_Blur* · 04-27-2010, 11:28 AM

I hope these new V8s are as easy a swap as the LS-series engines.

brandotron · 04-27-2010, 11:28 AM

I think we'll see this Gen V make an appearance in the current generation Camaro, much like the LT to LS switch of the last gen.

2SSARMY · 04-27-2010, 11:28 AM

Thank god Vettes will still be v8s and not turbod v6s

TheClassicCarKid · 04-27-2010, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 SSRS

More Horsepower

Well probably more like the same, but with less weight and more mpg

Unfair · 04-27-2010, 11:33 AM

Defnitely a step in the right direction!

DarricSS · 04-27-2010, 11:34 AM

Let's hope it's a 5.0L i hear that's the Cat's @ss...THE end all be all motor of ALL TIME!

Just go to the VS. forum and see for yourself...lot's of "Facts" in there...

cab2g · 04-27-2010, 11:38 AM

I think its funny that they mention that the engines will be able to run on E85... Because all car engines can already run on E85, it's just that the hoses and other external components will corrode if you don't have a E85 car... I remember hearing it was under $200 in parts to make a car E85 compatible... For example, my Mazda pickup truck has the exact same engine as the same model year Ford Ranger. However, my truck is a E85 flex fuel vehicle... The Ranger isn't. It's all because they used cheaper parts in the Ranger... kind of funny.

But I am REALLY excited to see that we're still going to invest new money on V8 technology. I will miss the low rumble of V8s if they ever do disappear. I guess I could probably just buy a diesel, those things have quite the throaty growl

khabboub · 04-27-2010, 11:46 AM

so im guessing that these are going to be in the 2010 corvettes.

*The_Blur* · 04-27-2010, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khabboub

so im guessing that these are going to be in the 2010 corvettes.

It's already 2010.

RyanG · 04-27-2010, 07:42 PM

The best thing about this is now instead of my Camaro being a garage queen I can drive it like I stole it and get a 6th gen with a V8!!
~Ryan

Sawyer · 04-27-2010, 07:54 PM

DI V8

iPODFAN11 · 04-27-2010, 08:36 PM

If I understood correctly, the next trucks are the first to get the Gen V small block, followed by more vehicles.

ORANGE U NV · 04-27-2010, 08:59 PM

I'm sure the "new" DI V8 will debut in the new Corvette. So maybe.... the DI V8 will make it into the Gen5 Camaro before the model change.

GM is also revamping the entire truck/SUV V8 line as well. Ford is not waiting for the CAFE deadline, so maybe GM will intoduce these in the next few years. Sounds like most of the design work might be done and they are ready to spending tooling $ for production.

dgformula2k · 04-27-2010, 09:21 PM

Gen V is coming, the V8 isn't dead!

04-27-2010, 11:13 AM	#1
RyanG Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS IOM Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 80	GM to invest $850+ million to build new V8s Yeah! Maybe the next gen Camaro will still have a V8! Link: GM to build new V8 General Motors Co. said Tuesday it will invest more than $850 million to upgrade five North American factories to make its next-generation V8 engines more fuel efficient. The new V8s will differ from the current versions by using direct injection and a new combustion system, spokeswoman Sharon Basel said. The next-generation engines will also be lighter. GM will build them exclusively from aluminum, compared with the current versions' aluminum and iron makeup, Basel said. All of the engines will be able to run on E85 ethanol. To build the engines, GM will renovate or retool powertrain factories in Tonawanda, N.Y.; Bay City, Mich.; Bedford, Ind.; Defiance, Ohio; and St. Catharines, Ontario. GM uses its current V-8 family of engines in full-sized pickups, SUVs, vans and some performance cars, Basel said. “There is no doubt that a major differentiator going forward will be powertrain technology,” said Michael Robinet, vice president at research firm CSM Worldwide in Northville, Mich. “Heavy investment and improved fuel economy will be on every company's agenda.”

04-27-2010, 11:16 AM	#2
brandotron I am the internets. Drives: dangerously Join Date: May 2009 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 12,696 View My Garage	This is the beginning of the Gen V smallblock! __________________

04-27-2010, 11:16 AM	#3
Rogue Leader Iatefiberglassinsulation Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,582 View My Garage	i just hope everyone hee who whined this will be the last V8 camaro reads this and eats their crow for lunch. __________________ I'm Brick Tamland. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded. 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS - Daily Driver 1996 GMC Sierra 2500 SLT - Tow Vehicle 1993 Volkswagen Fox - Race Car (yes seriously) "Like" my race team on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/farfrumwinnin

04-27-2010, 11:20 AM	#7
StangKiller818 Drives: pontiac g5 gt Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sfv 818 Posts: 189	haha very true __________________

04-27-2010, 11:21 AM	#8
DarricSS Drives: '10 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,048	Will still have the V/8 that's good, but it's going to sound allot different with DI ...that kinda sucks, but gotta' change with the times... __________________ 2010, SIM, 2SS/RS, LS3, CGM Stripes

04-27-2010, 11:19 AM	#4
rez333 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Joseph Posts: 1,241	the sky will always be falling to some people

04-27-2010, 11:20 AM	#5
Hylton Drives: fanboys and ass kissers crazy. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 7,183	Extremely good news!

04-27-2010, 11:20 AM	#6
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 8,704	'Twas the Night Before Christmas shall now read: "...with visions of direct-injected V8's with aluminum blocks danced in their heads..." Edit: Post # 2,000. I have a long way to go

04-27-2010, 11:24 AM	#10
ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,245	should help get in line with mustang weight.

04-27-2010, 11:26 AM	#11
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04-27-2010, 11:28 AM	#12
The_Blur Moderator, USN Drives: 2000 Firebird Formula NHRA SE Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Officer Candidate School Posts: 12,712	I hope these new V8s are as easy a swap as the LS-series engines. __________________ Get a good deal on your purchase. Read this. 117:123 RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. newborn gifts

04-27-2010, 11:28 AM	#14
2SSARMY Account Suspended Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 1,126	Thank god Vettes will still be v8s and not turbod v6s

04-27-2010, 11:33 AM	#16
Unfair Banned Drives: 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 754	Defnitely a step in the right direction!

04-27-2010, 11:34 AM	#17
DarricSS Drives: '10 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,048	Let's hope it's a 5.0L i hear that's the Cat's @ss...THE end all be all motor of ALL TIME! Just go to the VS. forum and see for yourself...lot's of "Facts" in there... __________________ 2010, SIM, 2SS/RS, LS3, CGM Stripes

04-27-2010, 11:38 AM	#18
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,387 View My Garage	I think its funny that they mention that the engines will be able to run on E85... Because all car engines can already run on E85, it's just that the hoses and other external components will corrode if you don't have a E85 car... I remember hearing it was under $200 in parts to make a car E85 compatible... For example, my Mazda pickup truck has the exact same engine as the same model year Ford Ranger. However, my truck is a E85 flex fuel vehicle... The Ranger isn't. It's all because they used cheaper parts in the Ranger... kind of funny. But I am REALLY excited to see that we're still going to invest new money on V8 technology. I will miss the low rumble of V8s if they ever do disappear. I guess I could probably just buy a diesel, those things have quite the throaty growl __________________

04-27-2010, 11:46 AM	#19
khabboub Tampa Gulf Coast Family Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa, florida Posts: 1,243	so im guessing that these are going to be in the 2010 corvettes.

04-27-2010, 07:42 PM	#21
RyanG Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS IOM Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 80	The best thing about this is now instead of my Camaro being a garage queen I can drive it like I stole it and get a 6th gen with a V8!! ~Ryan

04-27-2010, 07:54 PM	#22
Sawyer Drives: '13 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,354 View My Garage	DI V8 __________________ 2013 Mustang GT Black M6

04-27-2010, 08:59 PM	#24
ORANGE U NV Drives: The Wife Crazy Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TAMPA BAY Posts: 534	I'm sure the "new" DI V8 will debut in the new Corvette. So maybe.... the DI V8 will make it into the Gen5 Camaro before the model change. GM is also revamping the entire truck/SUV V8 line as well. Ford is not waiting for the CAFE deadline, so maybe GM will intoduce these in the next few years. Sounds like most of the design work might be done and they are ready to spending tooling $ for production. __________________ "God is great, beer is good and people are crazy" 2SS IOM/IOM L99 Black Rally Stripes, Polished Wheels, Loudmouth II, Rotofab CAI, IOM Heritage Grille

04-27-2010, 09:21 PM	#25
dgformula2k lurker Drives: 2000 Firebird Formula Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austell, GA Posts: 88	Gen V is coming, the V8 isn't dead!

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