Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Phastek Performance
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-01-2010, 08:24 AM   #1
SS-screamer
 
Drives: SIM RS/SS L99
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sunshine State
Posts: 208
Another L99 cam question....VVT!

It seems most people are going with the L99 - LS3 conversion. However, I am intrigued about the supposed wider torque curves with VVT.

About a month or so ago it was a wait and see approach as more companies were, supposedly, working on vvt cams. Are there any new updates about when more cams or info will be available on vvt cams for the L99?

Also, I've decided to go the cam route later this summer. Are there any reputable places to get it installed and tuned near the Florida panhandle( Ft Walton Beach) area?


Thanks before hand!
SS-screamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 11:49 AM   #2
Sack Rat 2SS

 
Sack Rat 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Silver SS/RS, Man 6
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: DFW area, Texas
Posts: 882
I believe I read that Mast Mototsport had stage 1 and 2 VVT cams available. However, the reason so many go LS-3 conversion is with VVT you always deal with a cam that must compromise. Not so much with LS-3 aftermarket cams. Good hunting.
__________________
Silver 2SS/RS Man/6
CTS-V front 6-Piston Calipers,
GM 3.91 Rear Gears
Sack Rat 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 11:55 AM   #3
Ject
aka Patrick
 
Ject's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS '04 Silverado
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Derby Kansas
Posts: 3,072
Send a message via Yahoo to Ject
Same thing a lot of us with a L99 are thinking.

Kinda hard to decide to go with the LS3 conversion or wait and see what can be done with VVT Cams.
__________________
Current Modifications: Your average Bolt-ons & Suspension Upgrades
GForce Engineering: 9" Rear End, Strange Pro Iron Case w/Moser Nodular 3.70:1 Detroit locker, 3.5" Solid Drive Shaft
Ject is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 11:57 AM   #4
firengnred
 
firengnred's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS, 2006 2500 Silverado
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Torrance, Ca.
Posts: 682
Sitting on the fence with this one as well.
__________________

"Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Choose your words, for they become actions. Understand your actions, for they become habits. Study your habits, for they will become your character. Develop your character, for it becomes your destiny."
firengnred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 01:07 PM   #5
SS-screamer
 
Drives: SIM RS/SS L99
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sunshine State
Posts: 208
Going the LS3 route looks to be simpler and the easiest to install (less chance of it being done wrong). It may also be a more reliable(?) option. I don't want to give up reliability when doing a cam since my warranty is trashed.
SS-screamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 03:32 PM   #6
Ject
aka Patrick
 
Ject's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS '04 Silverado
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Derby Kansas
Posts: 3,072
Send a message via Yahoo to Ject
Quote:
Originally Posted by SS-screamer View Post
Going the LS3 route looks to be simpler and the easiest to install (less chance of it being done wrong). It may also be a more reliable(?) option. I don't want to give up reliability when doing a cam since my warranty is trashed.
I dunno about easiest, it is sure a large cost of $$ though.
My estimate is running about $4k-$5k counting labor to do the full LS3 conversion. At that rate I could just slap a Super charger on for more power.
__________________
Current Modifications: Your average Bolt-ons & Suspension Upgrades
GForce Engineering: 9" Rear End, Strange Pro Iron Case w/Moser Nodular 3.70:1 Detroit locker, 3.5" Solid Drive Shaft
Ject is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 03:43 PM   #7
Milk 1027
Camaro➎ moderator
 
Milk 1027's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 BLK 1LE
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: AZ
Posts: 13,552
I'm pretty sure Mast has had VVT cams for a while now.
__________________
Milk 1027 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 04:01 PM   #8
Supercharged SS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sandy Hook, CT
Posts: 11,962
I wanted to add the cam to my L99 but Ject hit it right on the head. Its like 4 or 5k to swap to the LS3 style. And for what 50 hp. At that point it said f'it and got a tvs2300 which was only 2k more and netted 550/550 at the wheels. Much more than 50. I keep asking Jannetty about a vvt cam but he keeps telling me that its not worth it unless you go LS3.
Supercharged SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 04:34 PM   #9
jo0oker
 
jo0oker's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro ss
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 72
Mast Motorsports

http://www.byunspeed.com/product_inf...ducts_id=12439

http://www.byunspeed.com/product_inf...ducts_id=12440
jo0oker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 04:38 PM   #10
mlee
Charter Circle Member
 
mlee's Avatar
 
Drives: Number Twenty-Three
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Conroe, TX
Posts: 28,410
Fastlane has a good one... Keeps DOD and all.... Sounds nasty too.
__________________
.
mlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 05:20 PM   #11
Sack Rat 2SS

 
Sack Rat 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Silver SS/RS, Man 6
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: DFW area, Texas
Posts: 882
A local bone stock L99 did a base of 320 rwhp. He did the usual CAI, headers, exhaust, and tune. Now at about 352rwhp. He did the LS-3 conversion and went to 438rwhp as I recall. That is a 118 rwhp bump from stock and plus 86 rwhp bump from bolt ons. Also on a cam that idles calmly at 650 rpm and drives stock. Guys, that is very significant IMHO. If you would be interested call ADM Perf for his cost as I think it is about $3400. He has done several other L99 to LS-3 conversions with Magnason TVS 2300 blowers. rwhp has ranged from 545 to 590 rwhp depending on owners specs regarding heads and cam choice. I know it is not cheap but believe me you get much more than 50 HP as was mentioned in posts above. Now, ask ALL these L99 owners if they miss the VVT and AFM? Hell no.
__________________
Silver 2SS/RS Man/6
CTS-V front 6-Piston Calipers,
GM 3.91 Rear Gears

Last edited by Sack Rat 2SS; 05-01-2010 at 05:49 PM.
Sack Rat 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 05:59 PM   #12
Sack Rat 2SS

 
Sack Rat 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Silver SS/RS, Man 6
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: DFW area, Texas
Posts: 882
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ject View Post
My estimate is running about $4k-$5k counting labor to do the full LS3 conversion. At that rate I could just slap a Super charger on for more power.
Hey Ject, would you do the conversion for $3400 and spend a night or two in DFW area while it takes place?? Yes, I am just trying to tempt you a little. It is great to have choices with regard to our cars. And, I am pleased that none posting in this thread have mentioned "Will I lose my Warranty"?
__________________
Silver 2SS/RS Man/6
CTS-V front 6-Piston Calipers,
GM 3.91 Rear Gears
Sack Rat 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 06:22 PM   #13
firengnred
 
firengnred's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS, 2006 2500 Silverado
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Torrance, Ca.
Posts: 682
SC is nice but you gotta love that muscle car lope from a cam.
__________________

"Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Choose your words, for they become actions. Understand your actions, for they become habits. Study your habits, for they will become your character. Develop your character, for it becomes your destiny."
firengnred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2010, 07:04 PM   #14
Hesh
 
Hesh's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 IOM Camaro Vin 34334
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 566
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sack Rat 2SS View Post
A local bone stock L99 did a base of 320 rwhp. He did the usual CAI, headers, exhaust, and tune. Now at about 352rwhp. He did the LS-3 conversion and went to 438rwhp as I recall. That is a 118 rwhp bump from stock and plus 86 rwhp bump from bolt ons. Also on a cam that idles calmly at 650 rpm and drives stock. Guys, that is very significant IMHO. If you would be interested call ADM Perf for his cost as I think it is about $3400. He has done several other L99 to LS-3 conversions with Magnason TVS 2300 blowers. rwhp has ranged from 545 to 590 rwhp depending on owners specs regarding heads and cam choice. I know it is not cheap but believe me you get much more than 50 HP as was mentioned in posts above. Now, ask ALL these L99 owners if they miss the VVT and AFM? Hell no.
Will agree that it is more than just a 50hp bump, but $3400 is a little low. Also add in the other parts that were done to get 438hp and you are creeping in on the blower price. 438rwhp is nice, but for around $1000 you can go over the 500rwhp mark. Trust me when I say I have been looking at all the options and for the money the blower route is the best bang for the buck. The best for that nasty hot rod sound tho is always going to be the lope of a good cam. Nothing IMHO beats that sound that I so love, but hp is the name of the game and the blower route looks to be where I am heading.
Hesh is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dyno numbers with New Era VVT cam and ported heads mike@newera Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 11 03-06-2010 12:48 PM
Biggest L99 blower cam while DD? 2010ssraper Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 1 03-01-2010 12:43 PM
Another L99 over 500RWHP with no cam or heads! east TX Muscle cars Forced Induction - V8 21 02-02-2010 05:52 PM
L99 TVS 1900 + Cam Dyno #'s ARE IN pharmd Forced Induction - V8 35 09-07-2009 04:36 AM
Cam Question CamaroDreams07 Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 10 08-26-2009 09:38 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.