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Bruno · 09-15-2006, 03:32 PM

Oh man before I saw this picture I didn't even think how hideaway lights would work or look on the new camaro.. but it looks absolutely amazing to me. :eyebulge:

I wish I had the ears of someone high-up at GM.. I'd annoy him until he made this part of the camaro.

*Moose* · 09-15-2006, 03:50 PM

They look awesome.

But, I don't expect to see them on a production version. Reasons: cost, and weight. I've heard weight is an "issue" with the concept, and I think GM would avoid any unnecessary weight, no matter how little it may be.

Twin Turbo · 09-15-2006, 04:32 PM

Oh, yes! Yes yes yes yes yes!!!

Is there any legistalive reason why that couldn't be done? I know pop-up lights are now banned, but these "flip lights" are flipping awesome.

MarkLS2 · 09-15-2006, 07:15 PM

This is a must have !!

matthewmiller01 · 09-15-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo

Oh, yes! Yes yes yes yes yes!!!

Is there any legistalive reason why that couldn't be done? I know pop-up lights are now banned, but these "flip lights" are flipping awesome.

Pop ups are now banned? WTF? I never heard this.

*KILLER74Z28* · 09-15-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewmiller01

Pop ups are now banned? WTF? I never heard this.

He is talking about Europe. TWIN is from England.

*TAG UR IT* · 09-16-2006, 01:55 AM

And if GM does not make this an option, some lucky aftermarket company will get the suckers built and sell'em like hotcakes. I WANT THE HIDEAWAYS!!!

Bruno · 09-16-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

And if GM does not make this an option, some lucky aftermarket company will get the suckers built and sell'em like hotcakes. I WANT THE HIDEAWAYS!!!

Anyone here have the technical knowledge to make such a thing? Those of us that don't can contribute capital and get rich !

Twin Turbo · 09-16-2006, 11:22 AM

Yeah, sorry guys......pop-up lights are now a no-no in Europe, on brand new cars, that is. In fact, the C5 Vette was the last car sold in Europe with pop-ups, the Ferrari 456 prior to that.

Are there any cars in the US that are still sold with pop-ups?

Here's another rendering along similar lines:

boxmonkeyracing · 09-16-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo

Here's another rendering along similar lines:

OMG I'M IN LOVE WITH THAT CAR!!! just needs a Univeristy of Tennessee windshield banner on it. if they offer that color and stripe setup I will probably end up getting it. if not black with black aftermarket wheels and tinted windows. but omg I love that car

Twin Turbo · 09-16-2006, 05:27 PM

I still think black is the way to go. Black, silver stipes, smoked titanium wheels and FLIP LIGHTS!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...2&d=1155006840

matthewmiller01 · 09-17-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER74Z28

He is talking about Europe. TWIN is from England.

Gotcha.

BlacLac02 · 09-18-2006, 08:05 AM

whats the deal with pop up lights not being allowed. they work. they show light at night. thats gay . but yeah i really like the hideaways.

Twin Turbo · 09-18-2006, 12:26 PM

All to do with our stupid European pedestrian safety laws. Also, pop-ups ruin your aerodynamics when raised, which is, I guess, why the Corvette racers have faired in lights.

*Moose* · 09-18-2006, 01:24 PM

Hideaways v. not, I don't care.

That car looks awesome either way.

2001ragtop · 09-18-2006, 01:46 PM

like someone else said, aftermarket companies will make retractable headlight covers.

i agree flip-open headlight doors probably won't become a real production order option due to costs/bean counting, etc. perhaps a different styled grille might be available though.

BlacLac02 · 09-18-2006, 07:48 PM

yeah but it doesnt matter how much you think its going to cost or if you can or cant afford it. the thing that counts is if they even offer it. it gives you the option to have it if you want it or not. no it wont be a standard item but an option wouldnt hurt anyone. if you dont like something dont get it. thats the nice thing about having options it keeps all the cars different and gives you what you want and what you dont want

*TAG UR IT* · 09-19-2006, 01:39 AM

I would love to see numerous options. It gives us the chance to customize our Camaro before it's even delivered. Hell, when I special ordered my 02 Z28, I think pretty much all the options were bulked together in one package where in the 01' and 00' models, you got to choose. There might have been 10 options total to choose from on the 02's. GM is not going to offer up endless options to choose from. That'll be where GMPP comes in. Just hope the drivetrain is strong enough w/ that IRS, that they give it plenty of performance/handling, and they don't screw w/ that appearance too much.

BlacLac02 · 09-19-2006, 07:48 AM

yeah, im not too sure aboutthat irs. i dont really know anything about it and i dont know why they would do that after having a solid rear end.

BlacLac02 · 09-19-2006, 07:49 AM

at least its not front wheel drive

boxmonkeyracing · 09-19-2006, 09:11 AM

from what I understand IRS is great for road courses. while solid axels are great for drags. so yea. that's what I know. lol or learned.

*TAG UR IT* · 09-19-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

from what I understand IRS is great for road courses. while solid axels are great for drags. so yea. that's what I know. lol or learned.

Ditto. Tha't what I've heard. If you're dragging, you want a solid axle. But for everyday driving anround town, which is what we are going to be doing 99% of the time in this car, IRS is the ONLY way to go. It is supposed to be awesome for road courses.

*Moose* · 09-19-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

But for everyday driving anround town, which is what we are going to be doing 99% of the time in this car, IRS is the ONLY way to go.

Agreed 100%

Bruno · 09-25-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

like someone else said, aftermarket companies will make retractable headlight covers.

i agree flip-open headlight doors probably won't become a real production order option due to costs/bean counting, etc. perhaps a different styled grille might be available though.

You really think so? What if the lights are designed in a way that it's just cost prhobitive to replace them with some sort of retractable system. Man I hope not. I have that photoshop of the retracted headlights burned in my head. :eyebulge:

yourbassist · 09-25-2006, 08:32 PM

You have to remember that adding options adds costs for GM. It's not like they can offer an unlimited amount of things. They still have to produce the cars and the more options they create the less streamlined the process becomes and the more it costs them and us. That aside, I'd love to have the flip-ups.

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09-15-2006, 03:32 PM	#1
Bruno Drives: Saving for new Camaro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: OH now Posts: 287	Give us hideaway / flip lights GM! Oh man before I saw this picture I didn't even think how hideaway lights would work or look on the new camaro.. but it looks absolutely amazing to me. :eyebulge: I wish I had the ears of someone high-up at GM.. I'd annoy him until he made this part of the camaro.

09-16-2006, 11:22 AM	#9
Twin Turbo Drives: '05 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Berkshire, England Posts: 148	Yeah, sorry guys......pop-up lights are now a no-no in Europe, on brand new cars, that is. In fact, the C5 Vette was the last car sold in Europe with pop-ups, the Ferrari 456 prior to that. Are there any cars in the US that are still sold with pop-ups? Here's another rendering along similar lines: Last edited by Twin Turbo; 09-16-2006 at 11:37 AM.

09-15-2006, 03:50 PM	#2
Moose Moderator Drives: '99 Camaro SS #1392 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newtown, Pa. Posts: 3,576	They look awesome. But, I don't expect to see them on a production version. Reasons: cost, and weight. I've heard weight is an "issue" with the concept, and I think GM would avoid any unnecessary weight, no matter how little it may be.

09-15-2006, 04:32 PM	#3
Twin Turbo Drives: '05 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Berkshire, England Posts: 148	Oh, yes! Yes yes yes yes yes!!! Is there any legistalive reason why that couldn't be done? I know pop-up lights are now banned, but these "flip lights" are flipping awesome.

09-15-2006, 07:15 PM	#4
MarkLS2 Administrator Drives: 2009 Camaro Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 116	This is a must have !!

09-16-2006, 01:55 AM	#7
TAG UR IT Moderator Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 16,578 View My Garage	And if GM does not make this an option, some lucky aftermarket company will get the suckers built and sell'em like hotcakes. I WANT THE HIDEAWAYS!!!

09-16-2006, 05:27 PM	#11
Twin Turbo Drives: '05 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Berkshire, England Posts: 148	I still think black is the way to go. Black, silver stipes, smoked titanium wheels and FLIP LIGHTS! http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...2&d=1155006840

09-18-2006, 08:05 AM	#13
BlacLac02 Banned Drives: 2002 Cadillac Escalade & STS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canton,Oh Posts: 263	whats the deal with pop up lights not being allowed. they work. they show light at night. thats gay . but yeah i really like the hideaways.

09-18-2006, 12:26 PM	#14
Twin Turbo Drives: '05 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Berkshire, England Posts: 148	All to do with our stupid European pedestrian safety laws. Also, pop-ups ruin your aerodynamics when raised, which is, I guess, why the Corvette racers have faired in lights.

09-18-2006, 01:24 PM	#15
Moose Moderator Drives: '99 Camaro SS #1392 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newtown, Pa. Posts: 3,576	Hideaways v. not, I don't care. That car looks awesome either way.

09-18-2006, 01:46 PM	#16
2001ragtop Drives: V8 american car Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 465	like someone else said, aftermarket companies will make retractable headlight covers. i agree flip-open headlight doors probably won't become a real production order option due to costs/bean counting, etc. perhaps a different styled grille might be available though.

09-18-2006, 07:48 PM	#17
BlacLac02 Banned Drives: 2002 Cadillac Escalade & STS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canton,Oh Posts: 263	yeah but it doesnt matter how much you think its going to cost or if you can or cant afford it. the thing that counts is if they even offer it. it gives you the option to have it if you want it or not. no it wont be a standard item but an option wouldnt hurt anyone. if you dont like something dont get it. thats the nice thing about having options it keeps all the cars different and gives you what you want and what you dont want

09-19-2006, 01:39 AM	#18
TAG UR IT Moderator Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 16,578 View My Garage	I would love to see numerous options. It gives us the chance to customize our Camaro before it's even delivered. Hell, when I special ordered my 02 Z28, I think pretty much all the options were bulked together in one package where in the 01' and 00' models, you got to choose. There might have been 10 options total to choose from on the 02's. GM is not going to offer up endless options to choose from. That'll be where GMPP comes in. Just hope the drivetrain is strong enough w/ that IRS, that they give it plenty of performance/handling, and they don't screw w/ that appearance too much.

09-19-2006, 07:48 AM	#19
BlacLac02 Banned Drives: 2002 Cadillac Escalade & STS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canton,Oh Posts: 263	yeah, im not too sure aboutthat irs. i dont really know anything about it and i dont know why they would do that after having a solid rear end.

09-19-2006, 07:49 AM	#20
BlacLac02 Banned Drives: 2002 Cadillac Escalade & STS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canton,Oh Posts: 263	at least its not front wheel drive

09-25-2006, 08:32 PM	#25
yourbassist Drives: '96 Intrepid Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Maryville Posts: 33	You have to remember that adding options adds costs for GM. It's not like they can offer an unlimited amount of things. They still have to produce the cars and the more options they create the less streamlined the process becomes and the more it costs them and us. That aside, I'd love to have the flip-ups.