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*TAG UR IT* · 09-26-2006, 12:29 AM

I don't know who super chevy was talking to, but in that column it said they were told that the option of retractable headlights would be a "customer dissatisfaction". The probability of the headlight covers failing and not retracting to the covers not lining up properly could cause a major potential headache for GM's warranty guys. I see them scraping that idea completely. Believe me, they are etched in my mind too. Personally, I love'em!

Twin Turbo · 09-26-2006, 12:30 PM

Just as some companies are producing aftermarket "angel eye" headlights for cars, such as the Mustang, I see no reason flip lights couldn't be produced in the same manor.

Personally, I'd like them to be standard, or at least an option on the RS/SS model.

And yep, that image of the 3 Camaros is etched on my brain too. Those flips rock

t_wade · 09-26-2006, 05:45 PM

Hey, the hideaway headlights do look great, but how many old cars have you seen with the lights flipped up even when they are not turned on. I don't currently have any preference on the issue, as long as the lights work when it gets dark, and I'm driving a camaro with some ponies under the hood.

boxmonkeyracing · 09-26-2006, 07:25 PM

well that's most of the time just the motor going out and that's usually cheap and easy to fix. just people won't fix it. . .they are lazy.

CMCVette · 09-26-2006, 11:57 PM

Bring on the hideaways! Love 'em on my vette - in the "real world," no way do pop-ups detract from performance, & they look awesome. At least let's hope GM will consider them as an option. However, I must agree that the car looks awesome with or without them ~ but PLEASE, GM, give us HIDs at an option, regardless!

Bruno · 10-16-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CMCVette

Bring on the hideaways! Love 'em on my vette - in the "real world," no way do pop-ups detract from performance, & they look awesome. At least let's hope GM will consider them as an option. However, I must agree that the car looks awesome with or without them ~ but PLEASE, GM, give us HIDs at an option, regardless!

This day in age most enthusiast type cars are at least offered with HID as options. I think we'll get it with the new Camaro too.

Casull · 10-16-2006, 03:46 PM

i dunno about that look. I think I would have to actually see how it looks in person before nmaking a decision; however, if they offer the halos as standard equipment then there is no way i'd want the hideaways. IMO nothing beats the mean look of those halos!

Friday13th · 10-18-2006, 11:52 AM

Someone will build them.

How hard could it be? A piece of plastic to cover the light, a hinge to mount it and a linear actuator wired to your headlight switch.

When you turn your headlights on, the door opens and the lights are on, When the lights are off in the day, the door stays closed.

ENOUGH SAID, MAKE THEM AN OPTION!!!!!!!!!!

WildKatB · 10-19-2006, 03:08 AM

I love the look of the hide-away headlights on my '69 but... they dont work

. Mine uses vacuum to open and close and has worked only once since I've owned it. Every RS owner I know has the same problem whether the light's doors are vacuum or electric-motor driven. I've had the set-up rebuilt 2x without luck. A guy I know who shows his '69 Camaro keeps the doors open and unplugged until showtime so they'll (hopefully) work when the judge is looking at the car. I totally understand GM's concern about 'customer satisfaction' problems. However, I did see a rendering of a possible 2009 Camaro convertable styled after the '69 Pace Car - white, orange stripes, hidden headlights -

GORGEOUS!

*Moose* · 10-19-2006, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WildKatB

I love the look of the hide-away headlights on my '69 but... they dont work

. Mine uses vacuum to open and close and has worked only once since I've owned it. Every RS owner I know has the same problem whether the light's doors are vacuum or electric-motor driven. I've had the set-up rebuilt 2x without luck. A guy I know who shows his '69 Camaro keeps the doors open and unplugged until showtime so they'll (hopefully) work when the judge is looking at the car. I totally understand GM's concern about 'customer satisfaction' problems. However, I did see a rendering of a possible 2009 Camaro convertable styled after the '69 Pace Car - white, orange stripes, hidden headlights -

GORGEOUS!

WildKatB your reasons are pretty much why the new Camaro doesn't have hideaways...possible problems with operation, as well as new customers complainig "They aren't aligned properly", etc. GM went with a good, clean looking design and avoided possible "issues" down the road.

*TAG UR IT* · 10-19-2006, 06:28 PM

If they could build reliable hideaways, I'd take them in a heartbeat. We are in a day and age where "reliable" is very possible.

*KILLER74Z28* · 10-19-2006, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

If they could build reliable hideaways, I'd take them in a heartbeat. We are in a day and age where "reliable" is very possible.

I agree, the reliability of most vehicle systems has changed substantially from the 60’s and 70’s. The hidaways just need to be designed RTFT (Right The First Time)…

LowRider · 10-20-2006, 10:11 AM

I can't agree more the Hide away headlights should be offered again.

Friday13th · 10-26-2006, 09:52 AM

Reliability shouldn't be a problem anymore.

I would hope that they would lean away from the vaccum systems that they used before.

I have a buddy that I helped change his hideaways and they work to this day.

Again, a linear actuator is the best answer in my opinion. A lot of folks use these for opening hoods, trunk lids, tonneau covers, amp racks, etc...

Plus, you can wire these to a remote control and you can open them at shows or whenever you want to show off.

You can also wire it into your parking/headlight switch and have it turn on and off automatically.

Easiest analogy I can give you is a retractable, power antenna. Think how the antenna is hidden and then when the power is supplied to the radio, the antenna rises. Likewise, when the power is turned off, the antenna folds back down.

I think it's easy enough.

They will build them!!!!!!!!!!! No reason not to. If they don't, an aftermarket company will.

*Moose* · 10-26-2006, 09:54 AM

My bet; an aftermarket company may offer them. I highly doubt they'll come from GM that way.

fierocamaro · 10-28-2006, 12:47 AM

I think an after market will pick up on these so fast it wont even be funny

LowRider · 11-01-2006, 11:37 AM

Damn that is sweet. I want a Black one, w/silver stripes and big polished Aluminum wheels.W/black and silver interior.

*TAG UR IT* · 11-16-2006, 07:48 AM

Unfortunately, hideaways are not going to happen. Of course, aftermarket companies could pick it up and do something nice, but reliability and cost play the entire factor here. Don't expect hideaways.

LowRider · 11-17-2006, 11:14 AM

Ya but they make the camaro look so much better.

Casull · 11-17-2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowRider

Ya but they make the camaro look so much better.

I disagree.... give me the menicing look of those halos!

*TAG UR IT* · 11-17-2006, 12:24 PM

You could do both...halos and hideaways. But, GM will not be doing them. Anyone know anything about the 30% more reflective headlights? GM could always offer up some type of design that makes it look like hideaways, but without the unreliable doors. That could be a possibility.

LowRider · 11-17-2006, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casull

I disagree.... give me the menicing look of those halos!

Sorry man I like the l.e.d. headlight covers that is sweet and it makes it look mean plus you still have the halos at night when you open them up.

:smoking:

*TAG UR IT* · 11-17-2006, 03:32 PM

If I recall correctly, I hear that led's cost too much

(they're doing all they can to make this an affordable car for us), hence the 30% more reflective headlight I just mentioned. I'm not saying that is final, as we know things change. But, remember this.

afterdigital · 11-25-2006, 02:42 PM

i'll take it regular puleeeezzzz,

the daytime running lights look like the car is staring you down.
muhahhahahahahha...

ShemwellSL · 11-27-2006, 02:35 PM

Pop-up lights are a problem WAITING to happen...trust me we can do without them!

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11-16-2006, 07:48 AM	#43
TAG UR IT Moderator Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 16,578 View My Garage	Unfortunately, hideaways are not going to happen. Of course, aftermarket companies could pick it up and do something nice, but reliability and cost play the entire factor here. Don't expect hideaways. __________________ I thank God for my life-And for the stars and stripes-May freedom forever fly, let it ring. Salute the ones who died-The ones that give their lives - so we don`t have to sacrifice - All the things we love

11-17-2006, 12:24 PM	#46
TAG UR IT Moderator Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 16,578 View My Garage	You could do both...halos and hideaways. But, GM will not be doing them. Anyone know anything about the 30% more reflective headlights? GM could always offer up some type of design that makes it look like hideaways, but without the unreliable doors. That could be a possibility. __________________ I thank God for my life-And for the stars and stripes-May freedom forever fly, let it ring. Salute the ones who died-The ones that give their lives - so we don`t have to sacrifice - All the things we love

11-17-2006, 03:32 PM	#48
TAG UR IT Moderator Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 16,578 View My Garage	If I recall correctly, I hear that led's cost too much (they're doing all they can to make this an affordable car for us), hence the 30% more reflective headlight I just mentioned. I'm not saying that is final, as we know things change. But, remember this. __________________ I thank God for my life-And for the stars and stripes-May freedom forever fly, let it ring. Salute the ones who died-The ones that give their lives - so we don`t have to sacrifice - All the things we love

11-25-2006, 02:42 PM	#49
afterdigital Drives: CTS 2005 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 53	i'll take it regular puleeeezzzz, the daytime running lights look like the car is staring you down. muhahhahahahahha... __________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________________ ..:::CTS-05, Blue-Chip, 3.6VVT, Brushed-Aluminum Moldings, One MIC (Mobile Information Center), Mesh Grill... ..:::Camaro 2008/09 - I'll take mine in black w/Metallic Stripes down the middle ..:::Finished Project ..:::Blog of my project ..:::CTS Car hacking v1.8 Video

09-26-2006, 12:29 AM	#26
TAG UR IT Moderator Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 16,578 View My Garage	I don't know who super chevy was talking to, but in that column it said they were told that the option of retractable headlights would be a "customer dissatisfaction". The probability of the headlight covers failing and not retracting to the covers not lining up properly could cause a major potential headache for GM's warranty guys. I see them scraping that idea completely. Believe me, they are etched in my mind too. Personally, I love'em!

09-26-2006, 12:30 PM	#27
Twin Turbo Drives: '05 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Berkshire, England Posts: 148	Just as some companies are producing aftermarket "angel eye" headlights for cars, such as the Mustang, I see no reason flip lights couldn't be produced in the same manor. Personally, I'd like them to be standard, or at least an option on the RS/SS model. And yep, that image of the 3 Camaros is etched on my brain too. Those flips rock

09-26-2006, 05:45 PM	#28
t_wade Drives: '77 FirebirdFormula,'81 Camaro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TX Posts: 4	Hey, the hideaway headlights do look great, but how many old cars have you seen with the lights flipped up even when they are not turned on. I don't currently have any preference on the issue, as long as the lights work when it gets dark, and I'm driving a camaro with some ponies under the hood.

09-26-2006, 11:57 PM	#30
CMCVette Drives: 04 Commemorative Corvette Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 9	Bring on the hideaways! Love 'em on my vette - in the "real world," no way do pop-ups detract from performance, & they look awesome. At least let's hope GM will consider them as an option. However, I must agree that the car looks awesome with or without them ~ but PLEASE, GM, give us HIDs at an option, regardless!

10-16-2006, 03:46 PM	#32
Casull Drives: Chevy Silverado Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 757	i dunno about that look. I think I would have to actually see how it looks in person before nmaking a decision; however, if they offer the halos as standard equipment then there is no way i'd want the hideaways. IMO nothing beats the mean look of those halos!

10-18-2006, 11:52 AM	#33
Friday13th Drives: 83 Prostreet S-10 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 15	Someone will build them. How hard could it be? A piece of plastic to cover the light, a hinge to mount it and a linear actuator wired to your headlight switch. When you turn your headlights on, the door opens and the lights are on, When the lights are off in the day, the door stays closed. ENOUGH SAID, MAKE THEM AN OPTION!!!!!!!!!!

10-19-2006, 03:08 AM	#34
WildKatB '69 SS/RS 350 Drives: '69 LeMans Blue SS/RS Camaro Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5	I love the look of the hide-away headlights on my '69 but... they dont work . Mine uses vacuum to open and close and has worked only once since I've owned it. Every RS owner I know has the same problem whether the light's doors are vacuum or electric-motor driven. I've had the set-up rebuilt 2x without luck. A guy I know who shows his '69 Camaro keeps the doors open and unplugged until showtime so they'll (hopefully) work when the judge is looking at the car. I totally understand GM's concern about 'customer satisfaction' problems. However, I did see a rendering of a possible 2009 Camaro convertable styled after the '69 Pace Car - white, orange stripes, hidden headlights - GORGEOUS!

10-19-2006, 06:28 PM	#36
TAG UR IT Moderator Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 16,578 View My Garage	If they could build reliable hideaways, I'd take them in a heartbeat. We are in a day and age where "reliable" is very possible.

10-20-2006, 10:11 AM	#38
LowRider LowRider Drives: 1992 Camaro Z28 & 1996 S-10 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 393	I can't agree more the Hide away headlights should be offered again.

10-26-2006, 09:52 AM	#39
Friday13th Drives: 83 Prostreet S-10 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 15	Reliability shouldn't be a problem anymore. I would hope that they would lean away from the vaccum systems that they used before. I have a buddy that I helped change his hideaways and they work to this day. Again, a linear actuator is the best answer in my opinion. A lot of folks use these for opening hoods, trunk lids, tonneau covers, amp racks, etc... Plus, you can wire these to a remote control and you can open them at shows or whenever you want to show off. You can also wire it into your parking/headlight switch and have it turn on and off automatically. Easiest analogy I can give you is a retractable, power antenna. Think how the antenna is hidden and then when the power is supplied to the radio, the antenna rises. Likewise, when the power is turned off, the antenna folds back down. I think it's easy enough. They will build them!!!!!!!!!!! No reason not to. If they don't, an aftermarket company will.

10-26-2006, 09:54 AM	#40
Moose Moderator Drives: '99 Camaro SS #1392 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newtown, Pa. Posts: 3,576	My bet; an aftermarket company may offer them. I highly doubt they'll come from GM that way.

10-28-2006, 12:47 AM	#41
fierocamaro 69 Camaro lover Drives: 1969 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FdL, Wisconsin Posts: 22	I think an after market will pick up on these so fast it wont even be funny

11-01-2006, 11:37 AM	#42
LowRider LowRider Drives: 1992 Camaro Z28 & 1996 S-10 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 393	Damn that is sweet. I want a Black one, w/silver stripes and big polished Aluminum wheels.W/black and silver interior.

11-17-2006, 11:14 AM	#44
LowRider LowRider Drives: 1992 Camaro Z28 & 1996 S-10 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 393	Ya but they make the camaro look so much better.

11-27-2006, 02:35 PM	#50
ShemwellSL Drives: 2002 WS6 Trans Am Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Granite City, Illinois Posts: 3	Pop-up lights are a problem WAITING to happen...trust me we can do without them! __________________ :middlefinger:My 2002 WS6 LS1 puts down the power with SLP long tube headers, Magna flow Cat-back, SLP Air lid, SLP MAF, SLP Smooth bellows, 160 deg thermostat and 125 dry Shot NOS. Trying to hook up in all six gears with Summitumo tires on 179.5 front 1711 rear torque thrust II with BMR traction pac II (torque arm, panhard rod, and control arms). Eating mustangs and laughing at ricers!!! I have owned four f-body's. Two Camaro's and two Firebird's. 1981 Z28 Camaro, 1989 RS Camaro, 2002 WS6 TA (automatic) and a 2002 WS6 TA (manual)