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Old 05-04-2010, 08:45 AM   #1
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Can bolt-ons assure a quicker car than a 2011 mustang?

I live in Mustang country. I need to maintain my camaro faster than a stock mustang for my own sanity.

I know there is a similar post, but I want to talk about bolt-ons only.

How much do you think it will take to keep the camaro faster than a stock stang? And because I've been having so many serious issues (tranny number 3 coming soon), I want to stick to bolt-ons until I feel comfortable enough with the car not needing serious warranty work.

Anyone have any ideas how little it would take to make that happen?
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:49 AM   #2
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I live in Mustang country. I need to maintain my camaro faster than a stock mustang for my own sanity.

I know there is a similar post, but I want to talk about bolt-ons only.

How much do you think it will take to keep the camaro faster than a stock stang? And because I've been having so many serious issues (tranny number 3 coming soon), I want to stick to bolt-ons until I feel comfortable enough with the car not needing serious warranty work.

Anyone have any ideas how little it would take to make that happen?
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:58 AM   #3
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If we're talking best buys in packages for the 2010 you might consider the TSP packages.

We offer the stainless steel Texas Speed Long Tube Headers, 3" X Pipe, 3" axle back w/ Magnaflow mufflers, TSP cold air induction, and TSP Mail Order Tuning.

With this combo your getting the entire exhaust setup from headers to tips, the air induction & computer tuning all in one package.

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Old 05-04-2010, 09:45 AM   #4
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Either package above should work, that is until they start modding the Mustang.

After that it goes by wh spends most.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:58 AM   #5
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One small thing that was overlooked is that the OP seems to want to maintain his warranty. Can't do that with long tubes and a tune.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:41 AM   #6
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Driver mod. In my opinion, because the Camaro runs a 12.9 stock in the quarter and Ford's new Mustang 5.0 runs a 13.2 (According to Motortrend magazine, I believe. I have 4 different magazines that came in the mail yesterday, but one focused on the 2011 Mustang and 2010 Camaro. Pretty sure it's Motortrend. Anyway...) just make sure you're the better shifter.

But either way, you're gonna want bolt-ons, like I did and still do
You can't go wrong with a CAI. Roto-Fab and the K&N Aircharger IMO give the biggest gains. Exhaust as well, and a tune/programmer wouldn't hurt.

As far as warranty is concerned, it depends if you install it yourself or if the dealer installs it. My dealer in Kendall installed my CAI, and I even bought my Diablo Predator tuner from them and applied it (which, btw, was a great buy. I feel better throttle response and more torque in 1st and 2nd gear. Sounds better, too.) they just told me to put the stock tune back in whenever I take it to a dealership for service.

I'm pretty sure my dealer would install exhaust, headers, etc. for me without voiding my warranty. (If you do this, keep a record that a Chevrolet dealership installed it.)

Hope this helps
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:54 AM   #7
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Second on the TSP packages. All you will need to put firm distance between you and a 2011 Mustang is a 4.10 gear.
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Old 05-04-2010, 11:47 AM   #8
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I want to talk about bolt-ons only.
If by "bolt-ons only" you mean w/o tuning mods, than that's what I'm interested in as well.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:13 PM   #9
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car and driver and i think edmunds had the ss quicker than the new gt as long as its a manual. I personaly think they just about maxed the new gt motor out which means mod for mod the LS3 will always be faster. If you are a auto like me your going to need bolt ons that affect warranty like LT headers, tune, full exhaust, intake and such. If you are a manual I think its a drivers race but a good cai couldnt hurt and i think thats the only mod that doesnt for sure affect the warranty. Everyone thought the new gt was going to eat the SS's lunch but we are now learning that is far from true.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:33 PM   #10
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Either package above should work, that is until they start modding the Mustang.

After that it goes by who spends most.
This will always be the case. Plus you can't win with a "I beat a stock mustang with a modded camaro" type of attitude. Beat the driver not the car and take pride in it.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:33 PM   #11
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just upgrading your rear gears will get you faster than the 2011 mustang w/ track pkg and 3.73 gears the biased MotorTrend tested. all other magazines have proven a standard issue SS is faster than the standard issue GT with no other factory performance upgrades.

but if you want even more all you need is a cold air intake, headers, exhaust, and a tune with the rear gears and i bet it would be faster than a 2011 gt with the exact same mods.

that is all i have minus the gears and i ran a 12.23@113mph
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:34 PM   #12
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Correct, There is NO Substitute for Cubic Inches, Same Mods = more power on bigger cubes.

The Camaro 6.2 will always Lead over the Mustang 5.0
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:39 PM   #13
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LTs and warranty

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One small thing that was overlooked is that the OP seems to want to maintain his warranty. Can't do that with long tubes and a tune.
Why is my dealer ok with LTs then?
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