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Old 05-05-2010, 01:31 PM   #1
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Tap Shift Related Questions

Hello All,

I have a few questions all related to Tap Shift (Sport Mode) in the 2SS V8.

1) I noticed I can launch from 3rd gear (from a dead stop). Is the computer supposed to allow this? Can this be harmful to the transmission?

2) Can you shift between 'D' and 'M' (Sport Mode) and vice versa when the car is moving ? If so, are there any speed or load thresholds at which this should not be done?

3) Is AFM (Active Fuel management) present in both modes 'D' and 'M' ? or does it work only in 'D' ?

Thanks in advanced..

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Old 05-05-2010, 01:32 PM   #2
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I would also like to know if question #2 is allowed as Ihave been shifting from D to M while driving alot
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:39 PM   #3
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D to M is fine to do while moving, won't hurt a thing.
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Old 05-05-2010, 04:20 PM   #4
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So then, I assume going from M to D while moving is harmless?

I use "M" whenever I am first in line at a red light. Light turns green and I punch it but I notice the tranny bypasses 2nd and shifts me into 3rd. Is there a way to avoid this....besides easing up on the accelerator? I just usually down shift back to 2nd, build up my RPM's and shift back to 3rd when I want. I'm not redlining by any means so curious why it shifts itself from 1st to 3rd?
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Old 05-05-2010, 04:34 PM   #5
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If you use Tap Shift the trans will only downshift to 2nd if the car has a V8.
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Old 05-05-2010, 04:38 PM   #6
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When you place the shifter in 'M' the car is not automatically in Manual mode, it's in Sport mode. Once you hit one of your paddle shifters, it switches to Manual mode. If you get tired of paddle shifting, you can push the shifter back up into 'D' and back into 'M' to go back to Sport mode.

The difference between Sport mode and Drive is that Sport mode has a different set of shift points and is more aggressive in that respect. It will hold a gear a little bit longer on acceleration and downshift quicker during decceleration.

Once you hit the paddle shifter, though, the shifting is totally up to you. Though, if you're in 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th and come to a stop, the car will automatically drop you down into 2nd.

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Old 05-05-2010, 05:50 PM   #7
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CameroSkooter, I can't even believe I didn't know what the m was as I always hit the paddle for the manual mode. I can't wait to try it in just M as you say!!! I appreicate the info, big time!
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Old 05-05-2010, 05:52 PM   #8
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The difference between Sport mode and Drive is that Sport mode has a different set of shift points and is more aggressive in that respect. It will hold a gear a little bit longer on acceleration and downshift quicker during decceleration.
There have been reports by people that looked at the shift tables that the shift points are no different from D.
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hold the upshift paddle down for a few seconds and it goes back to auto S mode
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wow. these are some great tips!!!
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Old 05-05-2010, 07:09 PM   #11
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When you place the shifter in 'M' the car is not automatically in Manual mode, it's in Sport mode. Once you hit one of your paddle shifters, it switches to Manual mode. If you get tired of paddle shifting, you can push the shifter back up into 'D' and back into 'M' to go back to Sport mode.

The difference between Sport mode and Drive is that Sport mode has a different set of shift points and is more aggressive in that respect. It will hold a gear a little bit longer on acceleration and downshift quicker during decceleration.

Once you hit the paddle shifter, though, the shifting is totally up to you. Though, if you're in 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th and come to a stop, the car will automatically drop you down into 2nd.

Hope that helps
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If you use Tap Shift the trans will only downshift to 2nd if the car has a V8.
It will down shift to second on its own, it will down shift to first via the tap shift.
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Old 05-05-2010, 07:56 PM   #13
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Tune the tranny and the shifts will be amazingly fast. Oh, and it's FUN. Don't listen to all the die-hard M6 guys out there about it being just a gimmick. You have the luxury to shift gears and drive in automatic mode in traffic.

Ps. - Downshifting gears while moving is amazing. It blips the throttle and you can hear your exhaust ROAR. It's sexy. lol
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:10 PM   #14
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Ps. - Downshifting gears while moving is amazing. It blips the throttle and you can hear your exhaust ROAR. It's sexy. lol
Ain't it cool!!
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Hello All,

I have a few questions all related to Tap Shift (Sport Mode) in the 2SS V8.

3) Is AFM (Active Fuel management) present in both modes 'D' and 'M' ? or does it work only in 'D' ?

Thanks in advanced..

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So I guess I'll take #3...

AFM is always present in D & S (unless tuned out). I believe driving in M you can avoid it for the most part, by keeping higher rpms.

That is the key... driving aggressively in S or even D would also avoid it.

(I don't even think it kicks on anymore in my Camaro)

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Ps. - Downshifting gears while moving is amazing. It blips the throttle and you can hear your exhaust ROAR. It's sexy. lol
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:29 AM   #16
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Tune the tranny and the shifts will be amazingly fast. Oh, and it's FUN. Don't listen to all the die-hard M6 guys out there about it being just a gimmick. You have the luxury to shift gears and drive in automatic mode in traffic.

Ps. - Downshifting gears while moving is amazing. It blips the throttle and you can hear your exhaust ROAR. It's sexy. lol
just how fast does yours shift in tap mode because i have got a new tranny tune this is the second tune i have had, this tune increased line pressure alot, it shifts quick and firm in d or m(sport), but i told him i want instant tap shifts and there still not fast enough and dont think he can get it to tap shift quicker so either people think that its shifting faster and not really, or my tuner which is a good tuner has not figured it out , could i get an expert to reply , thanks.
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There have been reports by people that looked at the shift tables that the shift points are no different from D.
Tell that to my car
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Tell that to my car
Yeah, definately not the same in the SS... definately not!
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:45 AM   #19
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D to M is fine to do while moving, won't hurt a thing.
I do it all the time. NO harm!
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good info... so just to b clear bcuz i have never tried it....
I can leave it on "s" and never have to paddle shift?? what benefits do I gain by driving in "S" mode as opposed to "D" ?? thanks.....much appreciated
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hold the upshift paddle down for a few seconds and it goes back to auto S mode
Just to make sure, can someone verify this? If it's true, I'd much rather do that than take it from M to D back to M!

Not saying I don't believe you, Hester. Just wanna know for sure.
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M without tap shift is sport mode and sport mode keeps the rpm at a higher range longer than D.
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So I guess I'll take #3...

AFM is always present in D & S (unless tuned out). I believe driving in M you can avoid it for the most part, by keeping higher rpms.

That is the key... driving aggressively in S or even D would also avoid it.

(I don't even think it kicks on anymore in my Camaro)



AFM does not take place with the paddles. No matter what RPM.
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just how fast does yours shift in tap mode because i have got a new tranny tune this is the second tune i have had, this tune increased line pressure alot, it shifts quick and firm in d or m(sport), but i told him i want instant tap shifts and there still not fast enough and dont think he can get it to tap shift quicker so either people think that its shifting faster and not really, or my tuner which is a good tuner has not figured it out , could i get an expert to reply , thanks.
I filmed it and went through it again and again in slow mo and it seems to be around 400 ms (.4 sec.) from click to next gear.

*Note: Everyone needs to remember that the delay isn't bad. Well it is, but the delay does not mean your car is not in gear. It's just the computer trying to get the code to the transmission. When it shifts, it shift...quickly.
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M without tap shift is sport mode and sport mode keeps the rpm at a higher range longer than D.
is this true for both V6 and V8?
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