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Old 05-08-2010, 12:33 PM   #1
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Who needs a signed litho?

My car was produced last week (#118,050), and as I wait for it I have realized that the Camaro means so much more to a lot of people than any other car on the road. The legion of followers that this site has provided a place to learn, share, and laugh with eachother is quite unique and all of us Camaro owners really do feel like a tight knit family. With dealers asking people to stop by if they are in town just to say hi, members inviting other members that they have never met over for a bbq, and the older crowd interacting and educating those of us for whom the Camaro will be their first brand new car, this site is truly something special.

My excitement over my Camaro has been growing ever since I joined the site, and I will be picking up my baby in a week or so. All of this has made me realize that the whole point of this site, and the Camaro in general, is to share in our love of the Camaro and the joy the we obtain from driving it. A person can own all the memorabilia they want, hang as many pictures on their wall as they want, and go to as many car shows as they want, but we all are here for one reason: We love driving our Camaros.

I see so many posts, asking for signed lithographs. People hope and wish they get one with their new car, and say they would do anything to have one. Mike has done this to honor those that have been true supporters and enablers for this site and the Camaro community. These things are for people who truly deserve it. If you look through my old posts, you will see a couple saying that "I wish i could have one" and "I'd be so lucky if I received one" but I realize now that having a signed piece of paper on my wall doesn't even come close to the joy that I will get from driving my new Camaro. Additionally, I have done nothing to truly deserve one.

So, as the title says, "Who needs a signed litho?" I do not have one, but if I did get one I'd ask for it to have a # sign and then a VIN left blank. This would allow for me to give it to someone who truly deserved it. The choice of who gets one is Mike's, not mine, however I believe that we could take our passion for the Camaro and use it to help others. We could auction or raffle a Litho at the next C5Fest, with all proceeds going to the Make A Wish Foundation. Just as we all dreamed of owning a Camaro and made it happen, we should try to use this passion to help other's dreams come true who don't have the means to do it themselves.

With all proceeds going to a great organization, the winner of the auction or raffle would deserve to put their VIN on the Litho because of their sizable donation. There are so many more important things in this world than what you have on your wall, and sometimes we lose sight of that.

So, Who needs a signed litho? Who wants to help me take our love of Camaros and make it beneficial for others? Maybe Mike will see this, maybe he wont, but if you all support an effort to make this happen at next years C5Fest, please reply and show it.

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Old 05-08-2010, 12:45 PM   #2
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this needs to go through the site administration before you try doing anything.
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:48 PM   #3
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this needs to go through the site administration before you try doing anything.
Thanks, I was going to PM the admins if people actually seem to support doing something like this. As always, they call the shots on what goes on around here

Also, nothing can happen with this if Mike doesn't agree. Which i only see happening if there is not enough interest
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:56 PM   #4
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sounds good, hope it happens
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Old 05-08-2010, 01:28 PM   #5
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sounds good, hope it happens
thanks for your support!
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127 reads and only 10 votes? come on guys!
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:12 PM   #7
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By 'Support' it do you mean enter the raffle?
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By 'Support' it do you mean enter the raffle?
Yeah, that basically what I mean. If everyone thinks it s a good idea but only 5 people enter the raffle (or auction maybe), then it basically defeats the point (which is to raise money for a good cause)
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While that may be a good idea in theory, I think the point behind the lithos is a very generous offer by Mike to award those who, in his judgement, (that's why he's Mike Judge) depict a deserving recipient of a very special piece of Camaro history. It's not a polished piece of corporate hardware with engraved sayings, etc. It's grass roots and from the heart, and I believe that's what makes it extremely special, more valuable than anything you can purchase.

So in the interest of "auctioning" one to the highest bidder, I'm not so sure it was intended to be that way. So many things are commercialized nowadays with whatever it is going to the person with the most money. I still believe some of the best things in life are "free" (ok, it wasn't really free for Mike, but his giving it away is).

It's just my opinion. Obviously those with ultimate decision on the matter will choose the path.
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:34 PM   #10
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>> Make A Wish Foundation
An organization I have been supporting for many years, one of the very best.

If I can help in any way, feel free to contact me.

Great idea, please C5, let's get behind it, it's worthy.
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So in the interest of "auctioning" one to the highest bidder, I'm not so sure it was intended to be that way. So many things are commercialized nowadays with whatever it is going to the person with the most money. I still believe some of the best things in life are "free" (ok, it wasn't really free for Mike, but his giving it away is).

It's just my opinion. Obviously those with ultimate decision on the matter will choose the path.
Thanks for your input. I think you make a very valid argument against an auction, but may support a raffle instead. This way it wouldn't be so much that people buy it, rather they support the Make A Wish Foundation and are rewarded with the potential to have a litho.

Mike has ultimate say really, since he is the source of the lithos. Lets see what he thinks.
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if this were to happen, i propose 10 - 20 dollars per ticket/entry and anyone can enter as many times as they want. resulting in more money and still leaving the final choice to chance
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I understand where your going with this and it's not a bad idea, I'd say your heart is in the right pace. But, the first thing i would have done would have been to email Mike and the admins with your idea before mentioning anything on the forum. just my 2 cents.
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i REALLY doubt they would be against this in any way it would be a members litho, and for charity. why say no
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:52 PM   #15
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anything that can help make a wish come true for a dying child is a great idea no matter if the person who ends up with it deserves it or not.
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the first thing i would have done would have been to email Mike and the admins with your idea before mentioning anything on the forum. just my 2 cents.
Hindsight is 20/20. I probably should have contacted them, but I just wanted to see if members would be interested in anything like this. I figured if people aren't then there would be no reason to bother Mike and the admins and waste their time.

Thank you for your support.
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if this were to happen, i propose 10 - 20 dollars per ticket/entry and anyone can enter as many times as they want. resulting in more money and still leaving the final choice to chance
Yes! I was thinking that if we did it, tickets would have to be somewhere around there. If they were $15 each, then we could raise $6,000 be selling only 400 tickets. With the size of C5Fest, and the diehard nature of our members, I think that's a pretty achievable goal
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Old 05-08-2010, 05:20 PM   #18
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>> Make A Wish Foundation
An organization I have been supporting for many years, one of the very best.

If I can help in any way, feel free to contact me.

Great idea, please C5, let's get behind it, it's worthy.
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:47 PM   #19
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Whoops I voted! I am lucky enough to recieve a signed litho from Mike, Camaro #4920 litho #65. Sorry about that.
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Whoops I voted! I am lucky enough to recieve a signed litho from Mike, Camaro #4920 litho #65. Sorry about that.
Congrats on receiving one! want another for a good cause?
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:18 AM   #21
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500 reads and 42 votes.

I think the reason for the hesitation on voting is:
  • What does Mike say about this? Yes, I know... you want to have plenty of people in favour of this so he can't say no (), but still... has he even been asked about this? Positive peer pressure is one thing, but common courtesy would dictate that he be consulted before a "community vote". Is he only doing lithos for 2010 Camaros... or is he doing them for every year the Gen5 Camaro is made? Is this a special request? If so, it would be great to include that in the promo.
  • What does the staff of Camaro5.com think about this? Do you want them to handle this at the next C5 Fest, next year? If so, how are they going to handle this?
  • Who is going to handle the money? Cost? What procedures are in place to make sure the money is handled ethically? Who's accountable to make sure this is handled legally?
  • Which charity is going to benefit from this? Does the auction comply with their fundraising policies? More than one charity has had to turn away "good intention" donations due to lack of compliance to their fundraising bylaws. For instance, the Canadian Make-A-Wish Foundation won't accept online donations from anyone under 18 years of age.
Soooo, awesome idea. However, some questions need to be answered before continuing:
1) Check with Mike
2) Check with C5 staff
3) then... given the go-ahead... approach the C5 community.

If you've got #1 and #2, I have no doubt you'll have hundreds of positive votes. Until then this is all pure speculation, and will remain so until #1 and #2 are looked after.

And no, this isn't meant as a downer... it's a reality check. You've got a great idea, but haven't provided any assurances of how it's going to be carried out. Yes, you want feedback on if it's a good idea. Cool. Yes, everyone agrees raising money for charity is a great idea... now make it happen by assuring that it will happen.

Best of luck!
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Thanks. I'm going to PM mike today to get his input
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I think this is something that should go through Chevrolet's marketing dept. Maybe contact Scott or Cheryl and see what they say since at this point it's becoming an official item that's involving a transaction and money.

Mike did those on his own inspiration and enthusiasm and he literally went around on his breaks and lunches getting signatures from people who took the time from THEIR breaks and lunches to sign them. I think that's why these are so special; they're genuine, from-the-heart, unsolicited. They were not "official", sponsored, Mike didn't get paid to do them nor was any money involved.

Making an "official" one that IS going to have money involved changes it completely; even if it's for a good cause. I recommend contacting Scott, Cheryl, and/or Chevrolet Marketing and let them decide if they want to do this. If they DO decide, they would be able to do things Mike simply couldn't; like get the design team's signatures, exec's signatures, etc.

Good idea, just contact the right people/departments and get the proper approvals.
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I think this is something that should go through Chevrolet's marketing dept. Maybe contact Scott or Cheryl and see what they say since at this point it's becoming an official item that's involving a transaction and money.

Mike did those on his own inspiration and enthusiasm and he literally went around on his breaks and lunches getting signatures from people who took the time from THEIR breaks and lunches to sign them. I think that's why these are so special; they're genuine, from-the-heart, unsolicited. They were not "official", sponsored, Mike didn't get paid to do them nor was any money involved.

Making an "official" one that IS going to have money involved changes it completely; even if it's for a good cause. I recommend contacting Scott, Cheryl, and/or Chevrolet Marketing and let them decide if they want to do this. If they DO decide, they would be able to do things Mike simply couldn't; like get the design team's signatures, exec's signatures, etc.

Good idea, just contact the right people/departments and get the proper approvals.
Thanks, this is going to prove to be more difficult than originally thought. I'll see what Mike and Scott both have to say about this.
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This should only happen if Mike approves. The lithos are Mike's project.

I'd also want to know which charity before I'll vote or participate.
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