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Old 08-24-2014, 01:42 PM   #1
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Faded paint--roof ditch molding

After 5+ years of sun exposure, the black paint on my roof-ditch moldings has faded beyond repair. Has anyone else experienced this and, if so, what was your solution? Repaint? Replace? I'm wondering if I can just order new ones pre-painted and if that would be cheaper than repainting/re-clear-coating them (?). Are they tricky to remove and install? Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 08-24-2014, 02:46 PM   #2
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After 5+ years of sun exposure, the black paint on my roof-ditch moldings has faded beyond repair. Has anyone else experienced this and, if so, what was your solution? Repaint? Replace? I'm wondering if I can just order new ones pre-painted and if that would be cheaper than repainting/re-clear-coating them (?). Are they tricky to remove and install? Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
Im not sure about removal and installation but if I was you I would just buy new ones and they are black to begin with....problem solved.
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Old 08-24-2014, 02:59 PM   #3
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Im not sure about removal and installation but if I was you I would just buy new ones and they are black to begin with....problem solved.
The believe the ones you're referring to are unfinished plastic in a dark color. For those of us with the RS package, they're painted in whatever body color you have.
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[QUOTE=fldrummer;7909561]The believe the ones you're referring to are unfinished plastic in a dark color. For those of us with the RS package, they're painted in whatever body color you have.[/QUOTE

The dark color is "black" come on...

And yes Camaro's with the RS package they are painted whatever color the Camaro is.
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Same shit happened to mine and I live in the same area as you (probably even passed by one another at car shows, lol).

Looks like early stage clearcoat failure, actually. I've always made sure to wax them too, but they still faded. Your best bet is to just replace from a dealer. I wouldn't trust a body shop to know exactly what kind of paint is meant to go onto those things since I imagine it incorporates a heavy flex additive, which might be why it fades so quick - clearly it's not the same formulation as what goes on the body panels and bumpers. It could also be the rubber substrate, who knows?

My dealer is charging $60.00 each for a brand new painted part, so $120.00 for both moldings. Not too shabby considering it's only noticeable after a couple years.
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Old 08-25-2014, 01:29 PM   #6
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Same shit happened to mine and I live in the same area as you (probably even passed by one another at car shows, lol).

Looks like early stage clearcoat failure, actually. I've always made sure to wax them too, but they still faded. Your best bet is to just replace from a dealer. I wouldn't trust a body shop to know exactly what kind of paint is meant to go onto those things since I imagine it incorporates a heavy flex additive, which might be why it fades so quick - clearly it's not the same formulation as what goes on the body panels and bumpers. It could also be the rubber substrate, who knows?

My dealer is charging $60.00 each for a brand new painted part, so $120.00 for both moldings. Not too shabby considering it's only noticeable after a couple years.
Yeah, I'm sure we've crossed paths before, LOL... ^That's the answer I was looking for, by the way (thanks). Which dealer did you use? So are you saying they were ordered pre-painted? Any idea what the part #s are? $120 isn't that bad either. Is that just the parts cost or are/did they include installation (I imagine they're easy to replace)? Sorry for all the questions.
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Old 08-25-2014, 02:19 PM   #7
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Here is a link to a similar thread talking about the same issue, you can apparently remove them yourself but I would take it to a dealer so if they break the dealer is liable and not you

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241319
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194924
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Old 08-25-2014, 02:44 PM   #8
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Well, I ordered my car out of state. When I was in the market (mid 2010), it was still hard to get them down here for below MSRP. I ordered from Becky at Rodger's Chevrolet in Detroit and had my car shipped, and I also called her for these replacement parts. I'm sure any dealer down here would get them for the same deal.

Yeah, pre-painted. The parts go to the dealer, the dealer paints them, and then they're sent to you. The good thing about handling it with the dealer is that they are liable if the paint starts to flake off or something (like the above poster said). I don't imagine the formulation of paint used on these RS roof ditch moldings is just a "regular ole' mixture." It probably uses heavy flex additive and a special kind of primer that you might want to make the dealer responsible for.

And they're really easy to uninstall. They just pop right out with minimal effort.

Part # for the moldings themselves for RS Package: 92225861
Part # for the clips (you need 4 of them): 22757072
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Thanks for all the tips, guys. 'Big help. Not sure when or where I'll fix these, but I'll figure it out.
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This is a pretty common point of failure on a lot of newer cars and trucks actually.

Part of the issue is that these channels gather everything that ever hits the roof, rain water, wash water, and then they get tons of sun exposure.

Its important to deep clean them regularly. If they're raw plastic or rubber then cleaning with something like diluted APC Concentrate (8:1 or 10:1 should do it) to remove the oxidized surface. If they are painted or color matched to the vehicle then washing/drying/claying to clean them works.

Once they're clean they need to be conditioned or protected. Raw rubber or plastic should be treated with soemthing like our Exterior Trim Conditioner to give it some UV protection and restore moisture. If its painted then apply your preferred wax or sealant anytime you treat the rest of the paint.

If you stay on top of the care you can prevent the failure a lot of the time. Sometimes if they look bad a good cleaning and dressing might bring them back.
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Old 11-11-2014, 05:39 PM   #11
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Well, I finally received my moldings from Maureen@Rodgers Chevy last week and installed them just now. I can't believe how easy it was! 'Just carefully pried the old ones loose from the rear window with a smal flat-head screwdriver and gently pulled them up and off. The original clips were still good so the new ones just snapped right into place. I have to say that this took about 5 minutes to do and took a good 3 years off the age of the car! Thanks everyone for your help and insight. Here are some before and after pics...
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Thanks for the follow up post!

Since you first made this thread, mine are looking even worse. Good to know Maureen came through for you! What did the whole kit n' kaboodle come to price-wise?
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Thanks for the follow up post!

Since you first made this thread, mine are looking even worse. Good to know Maureen came through for you! What did the whole kit n' kaboodle come to price-wise?
$129, including shipping and the clips I didn't need, if I recall.
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I am going to have to have a close look at mine now.
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I also have this problem. Doesn't this fall under paint warranty? I thought paint warranty was for 6yrs
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I also have this problem. Doesn't this fall under paint warranty? I thought paint warranty was for 6yrs
If someone could verify that, then it would save me $130.00.
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Could those of us with non-RS roof ditch moldings replace with the painted ones just as easily? Or is there some difference in the way they are installed?
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What the hell is a paint warranty?
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I think we all have one. It should be good for 6yrs 100000 Mi. I think it covers paint peeling, clear coat peeling, rust etc. I'm not 100% sure anyways thats why I'm asking. I'll probably be going to the dealer soon to see what they say.
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I think we all have one. It should be good for 6yrs 100000 Mi. I think it covers paint peeling, clear coat peeling, rust etc. I'm not 100% sure anyways thats why I'm asking. I'll probably be going to the dealer soon to see what they say.
I've never heard of such a thing. To me it would just be covered in the typical 3yr/36k warranty.
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Gm has a 2yr 24k Mi warranty.
3yr 36k Mi warranty bumper to bumper
5yr 100k Mi warranty power train
6yr 100k Mi warranty on paint
8yr 80k Mi warranty on emissions
Maybe I'm missing something else
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Gm has a 2yr 24k Mi warranty.
3yr 36k Mi warranty bumper to bumper
5yr 100k Mi warranty power train
6yr 100k Mi warranty on paint
8yr 80k Mi warranty on emissions
Maybe I'm missing something else
Where do you find this info at?
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