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Old 11-14-2008, 05:08 PM   #251
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I'm not happy about this pricing.
I know our dollar is down from what it was right now but they definitely went on the high side.
I'll have to wait and see if a dealer is willing to go under MSRP.
I may just keep my 911 now.
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:14 PM   #252
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I'm not happy about this pricing.
I know our dollar is down from what it was right now but they definitely went on the high side.
I'll have to wait and see if a dealer is willing to go under MSRP.
I may just keep my 911 now.
hope it works out for you bro, its on the high side for me as well, well jus the insane freight charge, but other then that, im sure if you wait just a little longer, youll get it at the price you want. lol i would be able to wait if i had a 911.
Sugarprobe, that is one sleeper, now i know to watch out if i ever see that hood of yours roll up next to me, lol
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:18 PM   #253
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Thanks, man.
I had planned to sell my car and bank the extra money but I'm not sure now.
Here's a pic. It's a 2005.

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Still waiting for canadian pricing to make the front page like the american pricing did.
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:09 PM   #255
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Still waiting for canadian pricing to make the front page like the american pricing did.
I'd wait until we get all the RPO prices but feel free to PM one of the mods!
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:19 PM   #256
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Oh not sure if you think my car is a V6 but it's the V8. My dealer said he'll have all the pricing on the cars and the options for monday. Heres hoping for the best.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:00 PM   #257
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I hope GM is listening to all of this and thinks long and hard about pricing on the options/finance rates or else I will sadly be moving on from my obsession of the last few years and going elsewhere or buying south of the border - besides by march I would not be surprised whatsoever to see the cad around 90-95 cents American and staying that way for a long time. I'm so disappointed, I really thought gm was doing everything right with this car until now, if it had the same markup as the cts-v I would be all over this car, it's a cold day in Canada :(
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:36 PM   #258
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I hope my Canadian Friends arent disappointed with the pricing
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:49 PM   #259
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^^^ why? I'm not disappointed with the American pricing
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:05 PM   #260
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Here's how I feel
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:07 PM   #261
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LS = 21%
1LT = 17%
2LT = 19%
1SS = 22%
2SS = 23%

Call me crazy, but I just don't know why GM Canada can't be as fair to it's Canadian Consumers like the American GM is to thiers. A 22 - 23% increase in price over the American's for the SS is very high IMO as I was truly hoping for a more reasonable 15% based on the current economy and the value of the Canadian dollar to that of the US, however, I would be interested in knowing that if this car came out a year ago... when the Canadian dollar was worth $1.10 US... do you really think that the American GM would be willing to pay more than the Canadians?? I think not !

I'm having a very hard time justifing as well as to why the American's are only being asked to pay $750 for dest charge and we ( Canadians ) are being told to pay $1,400.. nearly double especially when it is being built here. I had believed at one time the idea behind an average fixed price for destination charges was set forth so that those who lived the furthest away, wouldn't have to pay the brunt of the costs involved to ship it to them. This being said, for example purposes only, why does GM think it's fair that someone living in California ( US ) only has to pay half of what someone living in Ontario ( Canada ) like myself has to pay?? Don't figure!! Sorry, but Canada is not responsible for high gas prices so stop charging us like we are!

That being said... based on the prices I've seen, my hopes of ever owning a new SS are pretty much F'd as of now unless my dealer is willing to negotiate for below MSRP especially since I will have to pay an additional 13% in taxes on the final price. That would easily place an SS in the $45 - $50,000 price bracket which is way too high for my budget. I guess it will be a 2LT for me.

Will have to wait till monday to find out prices of options, but I seriously hope that someone on here posts the dealer invoice prices for Canada like they did for the US buyers. After all, it's only fair! and I'm not fortunate to get the GM employee price either.
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:24 AM   #262
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Thanks, man.
I had planned to sell my car and bank the extra money but I'm not sure now.
Here's a pic. It's a 2005.

as much as i love the camaro, i really wouldnt sell that, i mean that is an 05 911, that is one beautiful car, if your were going to get like a z28 i wouldnt be so shocked but damm, if you want my honest opinion(and i have loved the camaro since i was four and im sure there are others who have loved the camaro since conception) but i wouldnt sell that 911, if it was a boxter then there would be no doubt, lol but with that....wow either way youll have great car...i love the sound of porshes...try to keep both if you can lol
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:29 AM   #263
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i agree with everyone here, the pricing is kinda unfair, but were used to that, but i mean the added freight charge, is just like getting raped twice. I dont see why the states were first given a price that included the dest.&freight charge, but we, get kinda upset or happy about a price, and then slapped with the HIDDEN FEE, its like taunting a child with chocolate and then saying only if you do your homework, clean the dishes, and your room.
i wish that 1400 was included in the overall price, didnt they figure that we also had higher taxes which can change a persons budget drastically. we'll see monday, or we got 0% interest, but i dont see that happening at launch...(anyone know if that is possible?)
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:37 AM   #264
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you know what i just realized, that much of us members, for the canadian part, are upset with the pricing, now we're(for the most part) full out enthusiasts who have been following this car since the first talks of its return were buzzing, if we find this kinda steep in terms of pricing, imagine what the average buyer who has the option of choosing between a mustang, chally or camaro would think, i dont think most kids would be worried if their car had a live axel, or if the chally was a fat@$$, it would come down to budget, not everyone is performance minded, we obviously have to or want to choose badly the camaro, but because of certain budgets, are limiting areselves if not detering ourselves from buying our dreamcar, but to an average enthusaist, the camaro would honestly be priced just a little to high.
I wonder what the average buyer really thinks about the Canadian and American pricing.
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Old 11-15-2008, 03:34 AM   #265
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I'm kind of worried about the pricing difference since I looked at the pricing of some options between US and Canadian vehicles.

Examples: 2009 Chev Impala SS

Sunroof ............. US $ 900 ... Canada $ 1,340 ... + 32.8%
Body Side Mold.... US $ 100 ... CANADA $ 145 ..... + 31.0%
Red Jewel Paint... US $ 295 ... Canada $ 380 ...... + 22.4%

I'd certainly like to know why GM feels justified in charging us these rediculous prices and then tell us one price has a higher markup over the others???

It should simply be US $ + 10% or 15% max NOT 30+%

I.E.: Sunroof US $900 = Canada $990 @ 10% - $1,035 @ 15%

ALL OPTIONS SHOULD BE AT THE SAME MARKUP TO THE :flag2: MSRP !!!
To quote myself, it sure looks like to me that GM of Canada has used the 2009 Impala pricing as a template for the 2010 Camaro.

2009 Impala: ............... 2010 Camaro:

LS $26,395 ................ LS $26,995
LT $27,895 ................ 1LT $27,995
LTZ $30,395 ............... 2LT $31,595
SS $36,395 ................ 1SS $36,995
..................................2SS $40,995

If this indeed is what GM is up to then come Monday morning expect the options ( like the ones above ) to be priced in the 20 - 35% bracket above US MSRP.
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:51 AM   #266
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Sugarprobe has to be in too, lol we just need to know where Canada is and how close it is to us, lol Sugarprobe, that would be your cue for when to let us know your actual area. Btw Hylton, we honestly have to set up a good meet up and cruise this summer for sure.
I have been thinking the same thing, a dozen new Camaros assembled in one place then a lengthy tour. I think you would have some heads turning. lol
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Old 11-15-2008, 07:57 AM   #267
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Thanks, man.
I had planned to sell my car and bank the extra money but I'm not sure now.
Here's a pic. It's a 2005.

Nice car but...Yeah, get rid of it.. You'll love the Camaro SS so much more as it has a hottness not even a porsche can touch..
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Guys,

I have created a spreadsheet to fairly compare the CDN price to US. When yesterdays exchange rate is taken into account, the CDN price is almost the same price as the US price. You cannot blame GM for the exchange rate. The only thing that is bad is the destination charge which is 65% more. I will update this spreadsheet when we get the RPO prices.

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Old 11-15-2008, 09:32 AM   #269
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I'm kind of worried about the pricing difference since I looked at the pricing of some options between US and Canadian vehicles.

Examples: 2009 Chev Impala SS

Sunroof ............. US $ 900 ... Canada $ 1,340 ... + 32.8%
Body Side Mold.... US $ 100 ... CANADA $ 145 ..... + 31.0%
Red Jewel Paint... US $ 295 ... Canada $ 380 ...... + 22.4%

I'd certainly like to know why GM feels justified in charging us these rediculous prices and then tell us one price has a higher markup over the others???

It should simply be US $ + 10% or 15% max NOT 30+%

I.E.: Sunroof US $900 = Canada $990 @ 10% - $1,035 @ 15%

ALL OPTIONS SHOULD BE AT THE SAME MARKUP TO THE :flag2: MSRP !!!
Pretty sad when they are being made in Canada! Guess our Northern friends may resort to what our Southern friends have been doing for years with SUV's and Honda Accords, lol
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:21 AM   #270
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yeah im having some difficult with the emoticons, btw, i see that you changed it to Winnepeg now, lol you'll get your SS, ..doesnt your GT run 0-60 in 5.4? that would beat me you know, maybe not Hylton, Hylton will respond saying..ILL SMOKE YOU lol but anyways i want to arrange a huge meet up, think with would be cool, Camaro5- The North meets the South, imagine we all met up in Buffalo/New York one year, then toronto the next, and then another us state, and then another Canadian province, that would be a great abual car meet
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I have been thinking the same thing, a dozen new Camaros assembled in one place then a lengthy tour. I think you would have some heads turning. lol
I'm in. Pretty much a no-brainer considering I live there. Got just the place for all the cars to pre-meet and organize near the Peace Bridge- Lasalle Park. Honestly, lots of places to actually hold a meet including the GM Powertrain facility. Somehow I think they would welcome a meet... Then we can all covertly go to some bar and hide our cars in the parking lot...
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Guys,

I have created a spreadsheet to fairly compare the CDN price to US. When yesterdays exchange rate is taken into account, the CDN price is almost the same price as the US price. You cannot blame GM for the exchange rate. The only thing that is bad is the destination charge which is 65% more. I will update this spreadsheet when we get the RPO prices.


Hylton, Yes, I agree that GM is not to blame solely about the current exchange rate we're experiencing here, however, the performance rating of the auto industry as a whole ( of which GM is partly responsible ) is one of the reasons that our dollar has taken such a dive over the past month. If the auto industry was doing well, then I'm sure our dollar would still be up in the .95 cents range ( if not higher ) when compared to the US $. My point being here is if our price is only based on the current exchange rate of our dollar, then why is it that GM took over a month longer to come up with our pricing? Back on Oct 13th when the US price was announced our dollar was trading around the .90 Cents level, which would've made the rate 1.10 x US$, but if you use the yearly average, which GM should've done to be fair, then the rate should've been 1:1 since our dollar was pretty much par with the US for most of the year. To me, it seems that GM of Canada doesn't much like or appreciate Canadians if it took them and extra month longer to decide to use the lowest dollar value as a rating system and charge us a rediculous high $1400 for destination even now that gas prices have dropped to 84.5 cents / litre from the summer highes of $1.30 / ltr. Sorry, but $750 ( $920 CAN ) is a steal IMO to ship anywhere in the US and $1400 is more like a raping of us Canadians. $1,000 should be the highest any vehicle should be charged to ship in Canada and $780 should be the highest in the US.

If GM uses your guesstimate of 1.2247 to decide pricing of the options ( RPO's ) that would be one thing, however, it is common place for GM to take more popular options such as Automatics and Sunroofs and charge an outrageous 30% or more above the US $ then tell us that it's perfectly fair!

I'll wait till Monday to find out what the RPO's will cost, but am fully expecting to see another raping here by GM ! 20 - 35% is what I'm expecting over US$ Just look at the Impala and compare... We gonna get screwed again!

I wished I qualified for the discounts ( Employee / Family or Supplier ) like many others here, however, I am not as fortunate.... $40,000 + Taxes is all I can afford so when a 1SS @ $36,995 + $1,400 + $1,500 ( est. ) for Automatic comes out to $39,895... that's pretty much it for me ! ... add taxes of 13% and it becomes $45,081.35 ... No RS, 4-pack, sunroof, etc.....

Funny how the SS's are marked up 22 & 23%, but GM decided only to mark the LT's up 17 & 19%? .. are they trying to tell us something? ... Like buy more LT's perhaps!
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The optics on this is really bad. GM Canada appears to believe the world did not change with the impact of the financial crashes this last 2 months. Maybe they delayed pricing (remember this car is made here, if they can price it for 50 states, what's so hard about a market the size of California) to see if things improved. They did not! Our dollar is expected to return to near par within a few months (about the time they ship these). Will they lower the price them.? No I don't think so !!! The Canadian dollar actually should be at 1.05 for all the reasons it was 1.10 this time last year. We are not in crisis up here and the US buck only strengthened as the demand for greenbacks went up to pay off the stock market loans and bonds of the little guys. When that eases off our dollar is forecast to be back to .95. To be fare to their Canadian dealers and the consumer they should take the average over 12 months and we could accept that. Unfortunaley they know we accepted a 40% up-charge over the 4 years before this past one. Remember that is why more than 60,000 vehicles were imported thru RIV last year in just one month alone.

They seem to believe their own hype now ... but what will happen when they fill the initial enthusiast surge of orders and then the USA dealer stock starts to sit on the floor in a depressed economy? Rebates !!!

BTW Honda Canada does not charge 1400 to ship a car the same size.
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The Canadian dollar went up with the price of oil, and then dropped with the price of oil. It had little to do with the auto industry. And the Canadian car market is down a couple percentage points, which is 1/10 the drop that the US auto industry has had. The Canadian economy is doing well relative to the others. Credit hasn't evaporated up here like it has in the states. And with the current exchange rates, we are in line with the US pricing. The only unexplained problem is the destination charge.
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I'm still having a hard time digesting these prices After you outfit it to your liking (including dest. etc.) and with no apparent incentive discounts mentioned, it's getting right up there in price. The worst part of it is that I priced a 1SS with a some options and the price is getting extremely close to a 2009 vette, that I priced, which included incentive discounts.

GM CANADA needs to really give their head a shake and stop taking advantage of the GOOD, NON JUDGEMENTAL CANADIAN! I GUESS THE GENERAL (ON THIS SIDE OF THE BOARDER) WANT'S TO USE US AS THE SCAPEGOAT FOR THE COMPANY GOING UNDER!
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I'm still having a hard time digesting these prices After you outfit it to your liking (including dest. etc.) and with no apparent incentive discounts mentioned, it's getting right up there in price. The worst part of it is that I priced a 1SS with a some options and the price is getting extremely close to a 2009 vette, that I priced, which included incentive discounts.

GM CANADA needs to really give their head a shake and stop taking advantage of the GOOD, NON JUDGEMENTAL CANADIAN! I GUESS THE GENERAL (ON THIS SIDE OF THE BOARDER) WANT'S TO USE US AS THE SCAPEGOAT FOR THE COMPANY GOING UNDER!
No, they want to show you that the UAW exists on both sides of the border- in ALL the plants...
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