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Old 05-13-2010, 11:32 AM   #1
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Trifecta tune or Dyno tune?

Opinions on which will give me the most bang for the buck. Local dyno charges $650 to dyno tune. I have no idea how much the trifecta tune is, and don't you have to do that yourself?
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as far as I understand, Vince at Trifecta is the only one able to tune our v6 engines at this point.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:37 AM   #3
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Opinions on which will give me the most bang for the buck. Local dyno charges $650 to dyno tune. I have no idea how much the trifecta tune is, and don't you have to do that yourself?

According to almost everyone, you will get now real gains from a tune, but you will void warrantee
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He is, and you will want to dyno the car as you do this.


Basicly, you'll buy the tune from Vince. You datalog the factory tune for him while on a dyno, or a track. He tweaks the tune and you dyno/run again, while datalogging. You send that to him, he either makes adjustments or calls it good.

I don't know of anyone else who has cracked the tune. Of course Vince does have resellers, and that might be what you are getting cnj.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:48 AM   #5
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So how much does the tune cost? And then on top of that I have to pay for dyno time to get it all worked out? Thanks for the advice.
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$400...a little more for the OBDII cable, which you'll want. That way you can flash back to factory when needed, or wanted.

But yeah, that's about the way it works. Check with your dyno guy, he might be a Trifecta reseller.
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Old 05-13-2010, 12:07 PM   #7
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Opinions on which will give me the most bang for the buck. Local dyno charges $650 to dyno tune. I have no idea how much the trifecta tune is, and don't you have to do that yourself?
unless your going to seriously mod with long tube headers & high flow cats...don't bother getting a tune.
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$400...a little more for the OBDII cable, which you'll want. That way you can flash back to factory when needed, or wanted.

But yeah, that's about the way it works. Check with your dyno guy, he might be a Trifecta reseller.
I did most of my dataloggin on the road. I switched around between country bumpkin roads to city streets to highways to give him a wide range each time I datalogged. Vince was lovin it like it was McDonalds or something.
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Old 05-13-2010, 12:20 PM   #9
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Thanks guys. Just curious to how much HP you guys got from the tune?
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Thanks guys. Just curious to how much HP you guys got from the tune?
There's really no gain on the v6 engine from a tune alone. What Vince can do is change your shift points, firm up the shifts when you use the paddles and reduce the torque management where its more fun but still safe for the tranny. Thats your basic tranny tune he can set up. For the engine he can make sure the air-fuel ratio is solid and other stuff you add on works well and is used efficiently.
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Old 05-13-2010, 12:30 PM   #11
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As others are saying...with just a tune alone you won't get much of anything performance wise. Vince can firm up your shifts for you (if you have an automatic) and make it feel more sporty. But unless you are doing headers or something like that...don't bother.
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Old 05-13-2010, 12:40 PM   #12
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So is there any point with just an intake and exhaust?
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No hp gain cnj.....nope no point to buy a tune with just that. Though, if you want a stronger feeling car then you will want what Vince has to offer. My car is a whole different animal with the tune, that's even before I put the LTs on.
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Old 05-13-2010, 01:46 PM   #14
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so since im putting on lt headers with high flow cats, a intake and mrt v1.0 exhaust ill have to get a dyno tune and would i be able to take it into a shop and have some do that?
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Guys any of the reseller's of Trifecta can do data logging for you or should do for you if you buy a tune from them...

The tune that Vince is selling is a good tune. If you look at the SLP 327 you will see that the tune, Axel back exhaust, and CAI are now up to 327HP so if we start at 312..to get gains of 15HP for CAI 350, Axel back exhaust 500-700 +, Tune for 400+ so if you add it up 1250.00-1500+ or -. So you have to decide is 100 per HP a good investment to you?

If I was closer I could at least show you my car or drive it to compare. It defiantly has some more seat HP in my eyes!
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With longtubes, intake and exhaust, the tune is a good idea. Of course, it isn't needed, but then again, I don't want to live with a CEL either, lol..


If you aren't doing any mods, don't do the tune. If you are going to mod the car, and take it to a strip, road course, tune it. While you won't gain much in the way of horsepower, I think I picked up 6rwhp and 2ft-lb of torque, it will optimize the tranny, for the auto guys, and keep your air/fuel inline as well as timing. The tranny tune is worth it,IMO, if you are going to play with the car, lol.
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Okay guys, with my cat-back exhaust (solo), Injen CAI, and Doug Thorley shorty headers do you think a tune is a good idea for me??
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Okay guys, with my cat-back exhaust (solo), Injen CAI, and Doug Thorley shorty headers do you think a tune is a good idea for me??
Since you put in the CAI, a tune is definite good idea. You want to make sure that Air/fuel mixture is right on, not too lean not too rich.
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I'm about to install my jba shortys .so ether way I need a tune weather or not I get cel light right? Does Vince fix the problem or just turns off the light?
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