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Old 05-16-2010, 02:25 PM   #26
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I bet this LSA powered camaro can hang with the 2011 GT500



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Old 05-16-2010, 05:54 PM   #27
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All I have to say is WHERE IS THE DI V8?! THAT is the Z that I want to buy! ;-)

You will have to wait till after the vette gets that, then the next year you should see one in a camaro. Doesnt mean they wont stuff the LSA into a camaro before that though. Probably wont see DI in a camaro until the next generation. As the C7 will probably get DI first in a few years.
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I bet this LSA powered camaro can hang with the 2011 GT500






concrete timeframe? ok. it will not be introduced today.

lol... nice.
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Old 05-17-2010, 10:30 AM   #29
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You will have to wait till after the vette gets that, then the next year you should see one in a camaro. Doesnt mean they wont stuff the LSA into a camaro before that though. Probably wont see DI in a camaro until the next generation. As the C7 will probably get DI first in a few years.
Maybe, maybe not. In '67 the SS Camaro got the 350cid engine a full year ahead of the Vette.
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Maybe, maybe not. In '67 the SS Camaro got the 350cid engine a full year ahead of the Vette.
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Really? I don't think I ever caught that! I'm still thinking the 'Vette will get DI first, though, that'd be d@mn cool to get in Z28! Did 'Vettes get DZ engines? A little off-topic, just out of curiosity
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I bet this LSA powered camaro can hang with the 2011 GT500






concrete timeframe? ok. it will not be introduced today.
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:02 PM   #33
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Really? I don't think I ever caught that! I'm still thinking the 'Vette will get DI first, though, that'd be d@mn cool to get in Z28! Did 'Vettes get DZ engines? A little off-topic, just out of curiosity
No other Chevy got the 302cid (DZ or otherwise) from the factory. The 350cid engine was "Camaro only" in '67.
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:14 PM   #34
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Really? I don't think I ever caught that! I'm still thinking the 'Vette will get DI first, though, that'd be d@mn cool to get in Z28! Did 'Vettes get DZ engines? A little off-topic, just out of curiosity
As a matter of fact the 302 only came in the Z/28 from 67-69 and that's it. Also a DZ302 motor only came in a 69 Z/28.
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No other Chevy got the 302cid (DZ or otherwise) from the factory. The 350cid engine was "Camaro only" in '67.
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As a matter of fact the 302 only came in the Z/28 from 67-69 and that's it. Also a DZ302 motor only came in a 69 Z/28.
OK - 'cause I've never heard of those finding their way into 'Vettes and my search didn't net any different results.

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Maybe, maybe not. In '67 the SS Camaro got the 350cid engine a full year ahead of the Vette.
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That is true, there is always an exception to the rules. However I do not see that happening this time around, especially with the C7 just around the corner. Probably not, but maybe the camaro will get lucky, and they will give the new engine to a z28 the same year the new vette is released.
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VERY good point. Dates are incredibly important...things change to rapidly for anything last month to still be "official".
were you a moderator on RX7 club? there was a dragon eye there too and he was a mod
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:06 PM   #38
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As a matter of fact the 302 only came in the Z/28 from 67-69 and that's it. Also a DZ302 motor only came in a 69 Z/28.
That would be correct, there were differences in the 302 all three model years (even some changes within model years), the final version which went in the '69 Z/28 was the DZ302 (of which there were over 20k made).
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All I have to say is WHERE IS THE DI V8?! THAT is the Z that I want to buy! ;-)
Very suprised, almost shocked that they didn't do a DI LS3 to compete with the 5.0 stang, GM knew once the 2010 came out ford was going to counter. The DI should have been on the board as soon as #1 came off the line last march. Not even a 3:73, shhesh.....Or maybe the new smaller vette motor, I guess they want to debut that motor in the vette first.........
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Very suprised, almost shocked that they didn't do a DI LS3 to compete with the 5.0 stang, GM knew once the 2010 came out ford was going to counter. The DI should have been on the board as soon as #1 came off the line last march. Not even a 3:73, shhesh.....Or maybe the new smaller vette motor, I guess they want to debut that motor in the vette first.........
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jump to conclusions mat. . .

who's to say that future powertrain and options weren't planned for? and how do you think the first year buyers would feel if they refreshed this quick? how could they make a profit if they refreshed this quick? smaller vette motor? are you referring to the C6R engine? that's a requirement for the racing series. It's not even a production engine. ..
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:51 AM   #42
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i don't know about all that..... hmmmmm still thinking 2012.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:38 PM   #43
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jump to conclusions mat. . .

who's to say that future powertrain and options weren't planned for? and how do you think the first year buyers would feel if they refreshed this quick? how could they make a profit if they refreshed this quick? smaller vette motor? are you referring to the C6R engine? that's a requirement for the racing series. It's not even a production engine. ..
There were rumors for at least 3yrs that the 5.5 would be detuned for street production. I guess the easy way to add 30hp would be a DI LS3. I'm a first year buyer and I dont have back up sensors/HUD. Things have to progress...
Let the mustang kick ass, we dont want to piss off the year one buyers, That makes no sense.
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I get the feeling that we're predicting things that GM hasn't even thought about yet. Which shows how cool we really are!
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I get the feeling that we're predicting things that GM hasn't even thought about yet. Which shows how cool we really are!
LOL, I'll bet the Camaro team is about 3 yrs ahead right now.
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I'M SO FREAKING GETTING ONE!!!!!!!!!! I'LL TRADE IN MY LS FOR IT NEXT YEAR.....STAY TUNED!!!!!

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There were rumors for at least 3yrs that the 5.5 would be detuned for street production. I guess the easy way to add 30hp would be a DI LS3. I'm a first year buyer and I dont have back up sensors/HUD. Things have to progress...
Let the mustang kick ass, we dont want to piss off the year one buyers, That makes no sense.
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ok. . .but you failed to recognize they need to make a profit before moving on with drivetrains. hud/sensors are cheap compared to engines/transmissions etc. where the new 5.0's R&D has been paid for by previous iterations of the lame version of the mustang. the mustang guys have had to deal with price increases with out any real progress, in the engine department. where now the camaro is only coming into it's second year. you fully expect GM to turn around and lose money when they just paid off their loans that saved them? I think not. besides the next iteration of the camaro will kick this current mustangs butt and then it will go back the other way. . .it's called progress. . .
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If D.I. is introduced to the LS3 I bet it will be in all vehicles that use the engine, so the Camaro and Corvette will get it the same year. It is a production/tooling/emission cost thing.
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ok. . .but you failed to recognize they need to make a profit before moving on with drivetrains. hud/sensors are cheap compared to engines/transmissions etc. where the new 5.0's R&D has been paid for by previous iterations of the lame version of the mustang. the mustang guys have had to deal with price increases with out any real progress, in the engine department. where now the camaro is only coming into it's second year. you fully expect GM to turn around and lose money when they just paid off their loans that saved them? I think not. besides the next iteration of the camaro will kick this current mustangs butt and then it will go back the other way. . .it's called progress. . .
So we just sit and watch the 2011 Stang get more market share until 2012?
Thats the old GM way of thinking......
I'll BET, that the 2011 sales for the Camaro will suffer because of the 5.0 debut and we had nothing to counter it.
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