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Old 05-16-2010, 11:38 AM   #1
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FAST intake manifold is garbage!

way too expensive and does not put out the advertised gains!!!:thumbdow n:
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:39 AM   #2
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:47 AM   #3
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what type of research have you done to make these claims?
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:01 PM   #4
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If I'm correct you really won't see the optimun potiential of the fast intake manifold until you get cams and heads or some type of forced induction. If you just have basic boltons then you will be lucky to get 15hp out of it. What all do you have on your car right now?
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:06 PM   #5
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welcome to 2002.

IMHO, on these engines, a ported stocker goes A LOONNNGG way. I wouldn't even consider a FAST intake, unless I had at least a > stock displacement engine. And even at that level, it would have to depend on the setup. But for stock bottom end with heads/cam/fi/nitrous... I'd stick to a ported ls3 intake any day of the week.
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:14 PM   #6
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:21 PM   #7
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Okay, I may have spoken out of anger a bit there. The FAST is okay considering the mods that I have. BUT I have spent $950 on a IM that I won't see any real gains from until I do another 4-5K in modifications. The advertised the specs are :

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16+ hp gains with stock displacement & 26+ rwhp with larger cubic inch
With my mods being this IM, a Vararam, ARH LT's, HF Cats, X-Pipe, from an advertisers perspective I should be picking up:

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25 -30 Vararam

16 FAST IM

32 ARH LT's, HF Cats and X-pipe

Total 73 RWHP (conservative)

My Mainline dyno initial dyno with bolts and no tune put down an average of about 295RWHP.

With a tune I am now putting down 315RWHP


So... where are these gains that I am supposed to see? I paid a lot of money to get parts and power. I expect it.

I'm have a 2SS/RS L99
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:24 PM   #8
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Old news... should have researched it first...

It looks cool though
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:29 PM   #9
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Yeah I guess I'm going the N/A route to pull more power. I'm just very irritated because the numbers that these advertisers put out DO NOT match what we actually make. Now granted, its all an estimate but advertisers should put out REAL world numbers not "fluff"
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:36 PM   #10
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That's one of the first lessons you will learn when getting into modding cars. MOST manufactors will exaggerate on their gains for a easy sales pitch.

Example:


You are adding Billy Bob's CAI on your car

Billy Bob says his Cold Air Intake will give your 36+ rwhp.

You put said cold air intake on your stock motor and gain 16 rwhp

I know what you are thinking... Billy Bob lied. Actually, no he didn't. Billy Bob was just vague. Bill Bob put compared his cold air intake with the stocker on a solid roller 454 lsx motor. A motor that would be REALLY choked by the stock intake, and would see very impressive gains to advertise. Billy Bob gained 36 rwhp on this motor.

So remember, don't trust Billy Bob. screw billy bob.
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:53 PM   #11
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I agree you should more whp with your mods even without the fast. At least about 355+
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Old 05-16-2010, 04:06 PM   #12
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I agree. You need heads and cam to take advantage of that intake manifold. You can't add up bolt ons and expect it to work that way. You'd probably see a big increase with that intake manifold when combining it with some head work and cam
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Old 05-16-2010, 04:16 PM   #13
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No way ur dynoing that low w those mods somethings up prob w the dyno
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Old 05-16-2010, 04:28 PM   #14
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those numbers just seem really low. lower than stock. san diego is near sea level isnt it?
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the OP didn't even state what kind of dyno he used. Or if they are STD or SAE numbers. How can you say his numbers are low? Seems pretty far fetched to me. That's like saying you are allergic to dinner, before you even know what is for dinner.
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Old 05-16-2010, 04:48 PM   #16
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i dont know man it just seems like hes running right in there with the stock numbers
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well say for instance it was on a dynamics dyno with an unlocked converter.

then those would be GREAT numbers.

dynos are TOOLS, NOT measuring devices.

Use the drag strip to see if you car is on par. Not a dyno.
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Old 05-16-2010, 04:58 PM   #18
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im just making an observation if thats ok
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sorry... pet peeve of mine....
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You should be way above 350 with those mods. Have you done the fuse pull?
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I used a MainLine Dyno
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those numbers just seem really low. lower than stock. san diego is near sea level isnt it?
Yeah I was near sea level when I dyno'd.
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Sounds like you need the fuse pull bad. That is around what PQ was putting down before the fuse pull.
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I did the fuse pull before the bolt ons. Should I do it again? Will that wipe the EFI tune?
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Old 05-16-2010, 06:24 PM   #25
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You won't wipe the tune with a fuse pull. The "Tune code" is your base code level on the ECM now. Just like the first time when the "stock" code was the base code.
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