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View Poll Results: How much are you willing to pay for another AMCC?
$165. Keep it the same 16 43.24%
$199. It's a freakin' STEAL! 15 40.54%
$250. Boy this is getting to be an expensive hobby! 4 10.81%
$275. I'm made of money. Yeah. 2 5.41%
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:09 PM   #1
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Now that the first American Muscle Car Challenge is over...

It's time to plan for the second one.

Like all good drug dealers, we kept the prices artificially low for the first "hit." Now that you guys are hooked, I need to know, if we were to do this again, if I can *maybe* raise the prices a little so that it'll be more financially feasible without significant sponsor support (you know those guys who I said was going to show up, but wasn't there at the event? Well...).

Right now, we're looking at a couple of possible dates, as well as a couple of different locations. Auto Club Speedway has its allures, but is pricey. Buttonwillow or Willow Springs are more affordable but definitely does not have the same sort of world class facility feel to it (no garages). If we were to do it again, I feel it must be done by late August or early September, since any later than that I will be in full planning mode for SEMA.

So. There's a poll for this thread. Vote on it, don't worry about the result. I just need to get a feel for how much I need to charge to make the next one work, and see how many more sponsors I MUST pull in to make it all worthwhile for everyone.

Oh, and the plan is to have it on a Friday so it'll kick off a nice long weekend for everyone.
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It's time to plan for the second one.

Like all good drug dealers, we kept the prices artificially low for the first "hit." Now that you guys are hooked, I need to know, if we were to do this again, if I can *maybe* raise the prices a little so that it'll be more financially feasible without significant sponsor support (you know those guys who I said was going to show up, but wasn't there at the event? Well...).

Right now, we're looking at a couple of possible dates, as well as a couple of different locations. Auto Club Speedway has its allures, but is pricey. Buttonwillow or Willow Springs are more affordable but definitely does not have the same sort of world class facility feel to it (no garages). If we were to do it again, I feel it must be done by late August or early September, since any later than that I will be in full planning mode for SEMA.

So. There's a poll for this thread. Vote on it, don't worry about the result. I just need to get a feel for how much I need to charge to make the next one work, and see how many more sponsors I MUST pull in to make it all worthwhile for everyone.

Oh, and the plan is to have it on a Friday so it'll kick off a nice long weekend for everyone.

That's what I'm talking about!

The SECOND B&M/Hurst American Muscle Car Challange...

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Dan, You are The MAN!!! Can I sign up NOW?!?

I voted on the poll shown above and I admit that I would like to keep it under $200, for what we received at the first event, any of the prices listed above are a Deal!!! Thanks again for all of your efforts and I look forward to going again and again and again...
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i'm in for a second event for sure, the sooner the better. like you mentioned sema will be right around the corner and for some of us who have cars in attendance we will need time to finish them and prep them.
that time of the year heat will be a factor as well, i've been to willow in the summer, not comfortable at all. garages, shade is nice.
i would be really interested in running the roval at fontana, the course would be absolutely incredible.
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It's time to plan for the second one.

Like all good drug dealers, we kept the prices artificially low for the first "hit." Now that you guys are hooked, I need to know, if we were to do this again, if I can *maybe* raise the prices a little so that it'll be more financially feasible without significant sponsor support (you know those guys who I said was going to show up, but wasn't there at the event? Well...).

Right now, we're looking at a couple of possible dates, as well as a couple of different locations. Auto Club Speedway has its allures, but is pricey. Buttonwillow or Willow Springs are more affordable but definitely does not have the same sort of world class facility feel to it (no garages). If we were to do it again, I feel it must be done by late August or early September, since any later than that I will be in full planning mode for SEMA.

So. There's a poll for this thread. Vote on it, don't worry about the result. I just need to get a feel for how much I need to charge to make the next one work, and see how many more sponsors I MUST pull in to make it all worthwhile for everyone.

Oh, and the plan is to have it on a Friday so it'll kick off a nice long weekend for everyone.
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This kind of event is well worth $200. The last one was a blast.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:43 AM   #8
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Im in for the next one, that was an amazing event
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Just let me know when, I'm in.
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Just came back from Laguna Seca. Going to be talking with David today to see if this is remotely possible. If y'all think Auto Club Speedway was fun you will all absolutely go apesh*t over Mazda Speedway @ Laguna Seca.

Logistics will be an issue. Also it IS 5 hours drive from So. Cal. To make this work it'll have to be a Friday event so you can make a full weekend out of it if you so choose. Also, from what I was told SOUND CONTROL is an issue as well, 92 decibels isn't that high, although my Subaru with Magnaflows passed sound but someone told me even a stock SS could potentially trigger the sound meter at WOT.

Some preliminary numbers would suggest that if we choose to run American Muscle Car Challenge 2 at Laguna Seca, we would have to charge $250 and EVERY GROUP WILL ABSOLUTELY NEED TO SELL OUT at capacity of 25. I'm not worried about Camaros. It's the 3rd group, the Mustangs, I have some reservations about. And it will also have to happen in the off-season, like between Jan. and March since prices shoot up dramatically between March and October.

IF. And this is a big if. If we do it at Laguna Seca, how many of you So. Cal guys would make the 5 hour trek, and would you think we'd get a good contingent from NorCal to come out and play?
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Just came back from Laguna Seca. Going to be talking with David today to see if this is remotely possible. If y'all think Auto Club Speedway was fun you will all absolutely go apesh*t over Mazda Speedway @ Laguna Seca.

Logistics will be an issue. Also it IS 5 hours drive from So. Cal. To make this work it'll have to be a Friday event so you can make a full weekend out of it if you so choose. Also, from what I was told SOUND CONTROL is an issue as well, 92 decibels isn't that high, although my Subaru with Magnaflows passed sound but someone told me even a stock SS could potentially trigger the sound meter at WOT.

Some preliminary numbers would suggest that if we choose to run American Muscle Car Challenge 2 at Laguna Seca, we would have to charge $250 and EVERY GROUP WILL ABSOLUTELY NEED TO SELL OUT at capacity of 25. I'm not worried about Camaros. It's the 3rd group, the Mustangs, I have some reservations about. And it will also have to happen in the off-season, like between Jan. and March since prices shoot up dramatically between March and October.

IF. And this is a big if. If we do it at Laguna Seca, how many of you So. Cal guys would make the 5 hour trek, and would you think we'd get a good contingent from NorCal to come out and play?


Now this is Freakin Awesome!!!
We would have to go up the day before but I am sure we could find a Hotel!!! I would also bet that if you opened up the 75 positions to all 3 makes that the Camaro's would fill up any open spots!
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:57 PM   #12
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Friday sounds perfect if the event is at Button or Willow. An overnight stay might be in order. Fontana would rock too, I know the track there now & might do a little better next time.

And YES, this is an expensive hobby, but the first Challenge was waaaaaay worth the price!

I would like to be #2 this time, no potty humor please! I know Rob types faster than me.....

I would vote for run what you brung and split them up into even groups to lesson the traffic for the Camaro's a bit. Not that I am looking to kick some Mustang or Challenger butt!
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Just came back from Laguna Seca. Going to be talking with David today to see if this is remotely possible. If y'all think Auto Club Speedway was fun you will all absolutely go apesh*t over Mazda Speedway @ Laguna Seca.

Logistics will be an issue. Also it IS 5 hours drive from So. Cal. To make this work it'll have to be a Friday event so you can make a full weekend out of it if you so choose. Also, from what I was told SOUND CONTROL is an issue as well, 92 decibels isn't that high, although my Subaru with Magnaflows passed sound but someone told me even a stock SS could potentially trigger the sound meter at WOT.

Some preliminary numbers would suggest that if we choose to run American Muscle Car Challenge 2 at Laguna Seca, we would have to charge $250 and EVERY GROUP WILL ABSOLUTELY NEED TO SELL OUT at capacity of 25. I'm not worried about Camaros. It's the 3rd group, the Mustangs, I have some reservations about. And it will also have to happen in the off-season, like between Jan. and March since prices shoot up dramatically between March and October.

IF. And this is a big if. If we do it at Laguna Seca, how many of you So. Cal guys would make the 5 hour trek, and would you think we'd get a good contingent from NorCal to come out and play?
i would definitely be in but i need to be garranteed to be allowed to run, 92 db's is a stretch for me, only if the db meters are located in a braking zone would i have a slight chance of not setting them off. 92 db's just aint happening for me.
dynatech l/t's & 3" magnaflow comp series = to loud for me.
what about the roval at fontana?
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Friday sounds perfect if the event is at Button or Willow. An overnight stay might be in order. Fontana would rock too, I know the track there now & might do a little better next time.

And YES, this is an expensive hobby, but the first Challenge was waaaaaay worth the price!

I would like to be #2 this time, no potty humor please! I know Rob types faster than me.....

I would vote for run what you brung and split them up into even groups to lesson the traffic for the Camaro's a bit. Not that I am looking to kick some Mustang or Challenger butt!
i would agree with a run what you brung class. i had a friend in the challenger, mudstain and g8 groups and we wanted to run together. only got to play with the g8, others were bummed.
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Depending on the date, I would make the trek from Norcal for sure. I'll be in the same boat as Rick with the 92db or so. I'm betting my car will be pretty loud at WOT
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Laguna Seca is a great track! Been on it with my motorcycle. Corkscrew is a bit scary, but it's fun! 3-day weekend would be best - but maybe Sunday a travel day, Monday a drive day, then home? If it's on Friday, many will have to take off some Thursday to get there. Just thinking out loud...

Yes, sound will be an issue. I have no idea what my car puts out as far as sound. I think I have a sound meter though so could check.

Yes Chris, you're number 2 If not, I still have my #3's to bring you

Maybe we'll get some of the new '11 Mustangs! Those will kick some butt!
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I'd be down with another one...I'm pretty sure that I cant pass teh 92db though...1-7/8" Kooks LTs w/3" to the back through magnaflows.

Hopefully my car will hold up for the next one...its still in the shop, seems that GM can't find a freaking axle seal yet :(
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:33 AM   #18
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Upon further review, Laguna Seca is OUT. Dates are difficult to get, 92 dB limit is going to drive most of you batty (was told even stock V8 Camaros will trigger the dB meter), and it is freakishly expensive to rent. It is almost double the price of Auto Club Speedway even during the week, and we will have to pay extra for fire/safety.

HERE'S ANOTHER INTRIGUING IDEA. David did some calling around and found out that Las Vegas Motor Speedway is available SUNDAY November 7th. That's the Sunday following SEMA (SEMA ends on Friday) in Las Vegas. Price is marginally more than Auto Club Speedway BUT the track is close enough to Vegas and it's on the weekend. I can even potentially secure SEMA passes for the first 10 attendees to sign up.

We've got the date reserved for now, will know within the next 30 days whether or not this is do-able from vendor responses, and based on that will be able to determine what we'll have to charge to break even. Will keep y'all informed.
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Upon further review, Laguna Seca is OUT. Dates are difficult to get, 92 dB limit is going to drive most of you batty (was told even stock V8 Camaros will trigger the dB meter), and it is freakishly expensive to rent. It is almost double the price of Auto Club Speedway even during the week, and we will have to pay extra for fire/safety.

HERE'S ANOTHER INTRIGUING IDEA. David did some calling around and found out that Las Vegas Motor Speedway is available SUNDAY November 7th. That's the Sunday following SEMA (SEMA ends on Friday) in Las Vegas. Price is marginally more than Auto Club Speedway BUT the track is close enough to Vegas and it's on the weekend. I can even potentially secure SEMA passes for the first 10 attendees to sign up.

We've got the date reserved for now, will know within the next 30 days whether or not this is do-able from vendor responses, and based on that will be able to determine what we'll have to charge to break even. Will keep y'all informed.
yes, Yes & YES! Put me down on the list!! #1 on the list! Yay!

I'd love the opp to go to SEMA!!

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SEMA & Track!

And we Even get an extra HOUR that day!
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november would be a much better idea, as the summer heat is miserable for both car and drivers alike.... i would like to go to the las vegas event if it happens in shop c6 z06
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Is there sign ups yet, or is this still in the making...I'm def in

FYI: since it seems that the slostangs have a light following, the G8's could run with them again...

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Meeting with some vendors tomorrow to see if they're interested in participating...Should know within the next 2-3 weeks if this will be financially feasible.
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