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Old 05-22-2010, 11:32 AM   #1
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Long Problem(s) GM techs or someone needed here...

Okay. here is my "everything problem" i've been dealing with on my camaro.

okay i bought my 2010 camaro Jan,2 2010 and it was bone stock from factory with only 9 miles on an LS.

the problems i've been having started ill say around march.. it all start going down hill. i started "modding" it. i added FOGLIGHTS , AUDIO SYSTEM ( composed of an amp and subwoofer) LED lights under the dash ( footwells ) change the dome light and the trunk light. and an exhaust...

and well it ran fine for a couple of weeks. but now im having all kind of problems. and my dealer hasnt been able to narrow it down.

first off. i have an engine code problem. ill get the code from the dealer in a couple of minutes. but i dont know what can be causing it...here is how it start...ill start the car ( it does it at random times ) and it will start like rough idling. sounds horrible and the DIC says " horse power to engine reduced" something similar to that. thats the engine problem im having.

im also having transmission problem. its a V6 M6 and im having the famous 2nd gear pop off , grind problems. the dealer would take care of this. just wanted to point it out .

and im having another weird problem. im getting the Service stabilitrak message on the DIC and a put window up and down messages...

Now what i think can be causing this...i think its either my alternator is already messed up or my battery isnt strong enough/powerful enough. or i need a bigger battery.

the dealer has told me that it can be the BCM or something. but i dont know what can be causing this. they told me that GM/Chevy doesnt cover the bcm or something like that. i dont know what the problem can be and my dealer doesnt know what it can be.

i also have a weak start. so im thinking it can be the battery or alternator....

so please someone help me out on this one. i cant believe what it is. i think that it can be a lemon law...oh and my brakes squeak ive gone for the 3rd time to the dealership. so i dont know what to do. please helppp!!!!!!!!!

I got the engine codes P2101 and P0606

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Old 05-22-2010, 11:54 AM   #2
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Are you sure it doesn't say going into "low battery power mode"? Does your compass disappear and then comes back as "Cal", prompts for window indexing? Most of the symptoms you describe sound like battery failure.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:55 PM   #3
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If it was in my bay, I would start by checking the battery first. A carbon pile load test is b.est. If the battery passes that, I would then check all the grounds. Hope this helps. Also, GM WILL cover the BCM is its bad. The 3/36 bumper to bumper warrenty thing comes to mind. Don't let the dealer BS you. If your not happy with there service, go elsewhere.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:30 PM   #4
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Are you sure it doesn't say going into "low battery power mode"? Does your compass disappear and then comes back as "Cal", prompts for window indexing? Most of the symptoms you describe sound like battery failure.
the compass has done that twice that ive notice. some other times i dont notice. and yes it has almost every time asked for the window indexing. and no low battery thing.. im going to take it to autozone to test the battery. another question. whats the AVG voltage in the DIC reading for you guys?

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If it was in my bay, I would start by checking the battery first. A carbon pile load test is b.est. If the battery passes that, I would then check all the grounds. Hope this helps. Also, GM WILL cover the BCM is its bad. The 3/36 bumper to bumper warrenty thing comes to mind. Don't let the dealer BS you. If your not happy with there service, go elsewhere.
well im going to have to go to another place i guess? but ill see. i will give maroone one more try. if not then im deff leaving them.

but the footwells couldnt be causing this right? because they think it is...


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Old 05-22-2010, 04:22 PM   #5
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...i added FOGLIGHTS , AUDIO SYSTEM ( composed of an amp and subwoofer) LED lights under the dash ( footwells ) change the dome light and the trunk light.
My first suggestion would be to disconnect all of these electrical add-ons that you've done and see if the issues continue. While these things may not seem related, they might be. Maybe you have a bad ground connection or a short somewhere. I'd say to start with the audio upgrades and disconnect all power wires.
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My first suggestion would be to disconnect all of these electrical add-ons that you've done and see if the issues continue. While these things may not seem related, they might be. Maybe you have a bad ground connection or a short somewhere. I'd say to start with the audio upgrades and disconnect all power wires.
Exactly what he said. this is the first thing that popped into my head. You have a bad connection somewhere. Trace everything you had upgraded and either remove it and see if that fixes the issues or find you bad connection/ground. It all sounds slectrical. This is why I dont mess with electronics.
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:32 PM   #7
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but the footwells couldnt be causing this right? because they think it is...


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Yes, yes they could... see above. Disconnect all that stuff and take it to another dealer.
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:53 PM   #8
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by disconnet you mean to just take it off the power cable to the batter right? lmao.

also i was driving and see my battery voltage is at 12.3-12.9 highest. startup-idle-driving.
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Just remove it, like it was never there, go back to stock and make sure everythign is put back correctly. You didnt have to cut any wires did you?

OH... and have them merge this thread with the other one.
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:28 PM   #10
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i discovered the codes.

p2101 and p0606
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:36 AM   #11
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Well its going to the dealership
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:32 AM   #12
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by disconnet you mean to just take it off the power cable to the batter right? lmao.

also i was driving and see my battery voltage is at 12.3-12.9 highest. startup-idle-driving.
That does not seem right for when the car is running! I think it should be much higher for a 12V battery under charge. Good luck and keep us posted!
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Old 05-24-2010, 01:59 PM   #13
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I agree with everyone else...probably a short or other unknown electrical problem due to the changes you've made. Did you install all that stuff yourself? If not, I'd have it back to whoever installed it to fix it. Seems to me it's not really a warranty issue except of course for the transmission issue you mentioned.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:55 PM   #14
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no it cant be. because the fact is the only cable i touched was the K9 BCM for the dome light led light...kinda like AAC styles light..the footwells...

and the others are off other things....i think my alternator is bad or my batttery at the most.

but we said that we might call it a lemon because the fact its been in the shop for 3 day and then 3 weeks later or so its going in again for some more odd days. and even longer...

cars only been running for 3ish months. and all these problems?
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Old 05-26-2010, 08:54 AM   #15
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okay so my dealer is INSANE.

they said i fried the PCM and the battery and cable and that its my fault and i have to pay for it. im not going to. im going to get this case open and getting my car fixed..
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:45 AM   #16
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this has been the worst experiance ive EVER experiance with any car delaer ever. i have called them plenty of times and have gotten a call back. so i dont know hwat to do know. this is insane. WORST WORST Service ever...wow im embarrsed
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:11 PM   #17
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The dealer has told me that it can be the BCM or something. but i dont know what can be causing this. they told me that GM/Chevy doesnt cover the bcm or something like that. i dont know what the problem can be and my dealer doesnt know what it can be.
If they don't cover the part who does? I thought this thing had a warranty? That's BullShat....Ask them to point out where it is addressed in the warranty that your specific part isn't going to be covered.

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Old 05-29-2010, 03:30 PM   #18
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well update my car is getting fixed but they need a part that doesnt come in untill thursday and :( we will see...
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Old 06-01-2010, 11:20 AM   #19
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I know I've got an SS, however some of your symptoms seem similar to mine. Read THIS thread and see if any of my problems match yours. Mine ended up being the EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module). It malfunctioned and caused all sorts of problems with my car.

All I can say is that it seems like the worst thing ever to have to go through, but once it's done and fixed you will feel so much better, and you'll look back and realize it wasn't too bad.

The BCM (Body Control Module) is covered as they originally thought that was my issue as well. Took the dealer a couple weeks to really narrow the problem down to one thing.

Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.

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okay mike im going to read your thread.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:34 AM   #21
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Just keep in mind that if there is an intermittent problem (i.e. short) in one of the electrical mods you added, then after they replace the fried parts and send you on your way - the problem may return...
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:54 PM   #22
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no i think i know what was wrong. so im going to let the dealer fix the car and then take it to a shop to get some shit checked out! 2morrow i should be getting a update on my car.
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I've been reading about your situation for some time now, this is ridiculous. Especially at Maroone of West Dade - they've been treating me like a king there, when I had some issues. Who have you been speaking to?
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:49 PM   #24
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chris mongue..

im done with west dade...seriously. im done. sick n tired of them. Grand Prize here i come.
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Old 06-04-2010, 06:49 PM   #25
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okay UPDATE! my car is fixed at least for the electronics and such. but i still haven't received the car. why? okay i don't know about you guys. but 850$ with tax and such for a new batter, some cable and a harness and labor seem pretty damn high...

battery..200? for a ultimate best battery in the world type shit.
cable? 50?
harness 100?

thats about 450 and that like pulling number out my rear...so i dont know if thats right

they are charging me for doing a diagnostic test...is that even possible?
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