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Old 10-18-2008, 04:44 PM   #1
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When will the V8 dissapear?

I've been hearing more and more chatter about the V8 being on the way out, what with the C7 Corvette being put on hold and no news about the Gen V V8s for a while now. So does anything this will happen? Will GM kill the V8s? And when in that case? Within the next three years? The next five? Ten?

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Old 10-18-2008, 04:46 PM   #2
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The V8 will never go away. If the economic climate proves to harsh to sustain the current crop of V8's then you will simply see smaller V8's.
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Old 10-18-2008, 05:00 PM   #3
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Old 10-18-2008, 05:17 PM   #4
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When some new type of engine replace internal combustion engine :-).
If we look at present V8 in GM most powerful engine has around 640hp. That kind of power should be more than enough for 99 % people.
But the question is will this engine be able to meet future emissions.
Yes maybe with help from DI, vvt etc. (rumors are gen V should have all this stuff) but since it seems corvette is coming after 2014 , and since GM present financial situation isn't very good question is will Gen. V come sooner maybe (i kind of doubt that but who knows) or will it come at all ( i hope, but more rumors about V6 TT is emerging).
All rumors about Gen V. was before Corvette push back and before GM was in financial crisis. I doubt V8 engine is on top of GM priority list now.
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Old 10-18-2008, 06:16 PM   #5
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the mentality of "no replacement for displacement" is going to change. I hate to say it, but everyone should be wary of the fact that our gas guzzling v-8s are about tapped for economic feasability.

look to the future for smaller motors, a lot more FI applications, etc.

not that i am totally for it, but that is the way i forsee the world changing.

unless some radical new fuel for internal combustion motors comes out soon, our v-8s will slowly work their way into limited edition models.

its already been proven that you dont need a big motor to make big power. and its not economically feasable for the big motor companies to try and keep the fire burning. now do I think v-8s will become completely obsolete? no. but just like the original L99 (little brother to the LT1) its a smaller v-8 than the traditional 350.

be prepared.
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:03 PM   #6
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also depends on the energy infrastructure though. I got to drive the bmw hydrogen 7 which is a bmw 7 series that they modified to run off of gasoline or hydrogen. It is a 12-cylinder hydrogen combustion engine when not running off of gasoline. Obviously as the hydrogen infrastructure doesn't yet exist to make the fuel feasible, a hydrogen combustion engine is also not feasible, but depending upon where the availability (and therefore cost) of alternative fuels, be it, biodiesel, hydrogen, ethanol, etc. go - there to will go the continued feasibility (and availability) of the v-8.
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Never.
Maybe a little bit smaller and more efficient in the future, but I don't see the V8 ever going away
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Quite frankly, the automakers themselves, don't know what the future will bring.
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Quite frankly, the automakers themselves, don't know what the future will bring.
I'm no psychic either, but there will always be a desire for performance cars. If an equally rewarding, inexpensive replacement for the V8 presents itself, then the V8 will be in trouble.

Think big, people. GM isn't the only company using more than 6 cylinders. There are a lot of companies—Rolls Royce, Bentley, Lamborghini, Porsche, Chrysler, Ford, Ferrari just to name a few—that use a lot of cylinders. While some of these brands have a calling in the luxury field, they all rely on the rewarding nature of a loud, large-displacement motor as a means of satisfying the driver.
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The V8 will never dissapear. Now, don't ever speak that blasphemy again.
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There are some vehicles which will always offer V8's. Mostly trucks and luxury cars. Problem is that GM is still needs to get the mileage average to 35 and that won't be as easy as some people think. Porsche and Ferarri don't make enough cars to qualify under cafe restrictions.
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I'm no psychic either, but there will always be a desire for performance cars. If an equally rewarding, inexpensive replacement for the V8 presents itself, then the V8 will be in trouble.

Think big, people. GM isn't the only company using more than 6 cylinders. There are a lot of companies—Rolls Royce, Bentley, Lamborghini, Porsche, Chrysler, Ford, Ferrari just to name a few—that use a lot of cylinders. While some of these brands have a calling in the luxury field, they all rely on the rewarding nature of a loud, large-displacement motor as a means of satisfying the driver.
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There are some vehicles which will always offer V8's. Mostly trucks and luxury cars. Problem is that GM is still needs to get the mileage average to 35 and that won't be as easy as some people think. Porsche and Ferarri don't make enough cars to qualify under cafe restrictions.
Yea, I should have added to my post that: I agree, there will always be V8's in something. And as fast as the electric cars coming are and will be, I lika the rumble and the roar of an LS3. They'll have to pry it from my dead fingers wrapped around the leather covered steering wheel. or better yet, just bury me in it.
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Old 10-19-2008, 02:21 AM   #14
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V8's will still be around. But, turbos are the way of the future. V8's will be more expensive.
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Well of course we all like the power of the V8 on tap but it's more of the sound of the V8 for me! You gotta love that RUMBLE dude! I really hope this never happens!
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There are some vehicles which will always offer V8's. Mostly trucks and luxury cars. Problem is that GM is still needs to get the mileage average to 35 and that won't be as easy as some people think. Porsche and Ferarri don't make enough cars to qualify under cafe restrictions.
Which proves the futility of Cafe, why should only the wealthy be allowed to get the cars they want, oh wait they're the ones who wrote the cafe laws.
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I've been hearing more and more chatter about the V8 being on the way out, what with the C7 Corvette being put on hold and no news about the Gen V V8s for a while now. So does anything this will happen? Will GM kill the V8s? And when in that case? Within the next three years? The next five? Ten?

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I'm no psychic either, but there will always be a desire for performance cars. If an equally rewarding, inexpensive replacement for the V8 presents itself, then the V8 will be in trouble.

Think big, people. GM isn't the only company using more than 6 cylinders. There are a lot of companies—Rolls Royce, Bentley, Lamborghini, Porsche, Chrysler, Ford, Ferrari just to name a few—that use a lot of cylinders. While some of these brands have a calling in the luxury field, they all rely on the rewarding nature of a loud, large-displacement motor as a means of satisfying the driver.
something else to look at the companies that make their motors with 8+ cyls also cut back on the size of the cyls.

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Which proves the futility of Cafe, why should only the wealthy be allowed to get the cars they want, oh wait they're the ones who wrote the cafe laws.
pretty much.
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Which proves the futility of Cafe, why should only the wealthy be allowed to get the cars they want, oh wait they're the ones who wrote the cafe laws.
Notice how the low volume manufacturers (<10,000 annual production, Porsche was lobbying to increase this slightly last I heard) of the elite are immune to CAFE as well.
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I think they'll be around for several more years. I think they'll shrink in displacement though and probably add FI. With as many enthusiasts out there that want big power, I think they have to continue to develope production V8s to continue to improve what's in the GMPP catalog. The biggest engine in there is the 575R which has 720 horse, and I'm sure some of the things they've learned on the street have gone toward at least a bit of the engineering of that engine. I know we get technology from racing but I think they take what they learn on the street and apply that to the racing engines too.

No, I don't think it'll go away soon, but I take Lutz' comment on getting your LS9 and LSA now. I just cross my fingers I can find one of those in my Z28 in a few years before they go bye-bye...
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I just read Acura is making a V8 for the first time. First Honda said no bigger than a four, than a six, now they finally break down and design a V8.
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The V8 will disappear when the combined full sized truck+full sized suv market is less than 500 000 units. So basically, never. A 350 hp turbo charged V6 is not the same as a big V8. And there will always be a demand for V8s in luxury cars because they are much smoother than most other engines.
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Well of course we all like the power of the V8 on tap but it's more of the sound of the V8 for me! You gotta love that RUMBLE dude! I really hope this never happens!
I'm with you man, I could pick up an Evo X right now for less than I'm going to be paying for my SS, but I'm not. No doubt the evo is a capable track machine and is wicked fast with a few bolt ons, but a boosted 4banger WILL NEVER sound as good as the tried n true American smallblock.
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The limitations on the options we have today are a direct result of decisions made by government. Same goes for the future. That being said, consider carefully who will get your vote at every level, every time the the polls are open.
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The hurst that drives you to your final resting place will have a V8 under the hood, you can rest assured of that.
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