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Old 01-04-2009, 11:49 AM   #1
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Who's staggering the wheels ??

What I mean is, who is going to put a larger wheel in the rear and a smaller up front ?? I am seriously thinking of doing the same exact as the concept (hopefully will be able to get concept wheels ) 22 in the rear and 21 up front ....Any pros or cons to this ??? anyone else thinking of doing the same ???


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The obvious negative is that the additional size will only serve to weigh down and slow down the car. As a positive, the Camaro will more closely resemble the concept. Performance will still be impressive, and I'm guessing that you wouldn't make the Camaro a track beast with bigger rims, so I can't imagine it ruining the feel or look of the car.

The rear wheels are wider than the front wheels out of the factory. You may want to keep this in mind when picking rims.
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I don't think it will be possible that easy. The Stabilitrak will flip out if you can't adjust wheel sizes in your car config...
Even installing brand new tires in the rear while having old ones in the front can mess up your cornering.
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as long as you keep the overall wheel height the same, you shouldnt have too much of a problem as far as handling is concerned.
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I don't think it will be possible that easy. The Stabilitrak will flip out if you can't adjust wheel sizes in your car config...
Even installing brand new tires in the rear while having old ones in the front can mess up your cornering.
Interesting.

Can you clarify why?
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Old 01-04-2009, 04:10 PM   #6
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I don't think it will be possible that easy. The Stabilitrak will flip out if you can't adjust wheel sizes in your car config...
Even installing brand new tires in the rear while having old ones in the front can mess up your cornering.
I'm also curious as to why. I understand new tires, slightly larger diameter, slightly lower wheel RPM. But if Stabilitrak is that sensitive, wouldn't it also flip out if your tires don't wear evenly?
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I'm also curious as to why. I understand new tires, slightly larger diameter, slightly lower wheel RPM. But if Stabilitrak is that sensitive, wouldn't it also flip out if your tires don't wear evenly?
if the tires don't wear even...you're doing something wrong.

ABS traction control etc, is very sensitive to tire variation. It has to be to work.

In a high hp car it will save COUNTLESS lives every day.

No stagger for you without reprograming the PCM...
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I was thinking of doing the same with mine, but I'll be using smaller wheels: 20 out back, 18 up front... I would use 19 up front but AR doesn't make 19" Torq-Thrust M's.
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you arent going to have a lot of room to add the extra tire height so 21s and 22s will look funny and probably rub with the same amount of sidewall unless your using rubberbands
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the only thing is that when you find the wheels you really like they probably wont come in 21s... there are some out there but most companies stick to even #s
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im doing it. there isnt too much of a down side depending on the type of wheels you do. weight is everything
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the only thing is that when you find the wheels you really like they probably wont come in 21s... there are some out there but most companies stick to even #s
like 17,19 and 23'S?
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like 17,19 and 23'S?
well no so much 17s since a lot of ricers put 17s or 18s on, but all the wheels I have been looking at (which is a lot lol) come in 20s, 22s, 24s, etc. I am just going to get different width tires, wide up front and even wider in the rear
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I'm planning on going the same all the way around. 18 x 7.5 is the stock size, and I'll stay with that for a while, but eventually (when its no longer my DD) I'll probably have the wheels widened to 8.5 or 9 inches all around.
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I might got 19/20's eventually, but for a while I will stick with the stockers for sure...
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Well, with stock rims and the tires I want I'll have a section width of 9.7 inches all around, which is not bad for a V6. If widened the rim to 8.5 inches, it would give me a section width of 10.1 - not much more for the cost of widening the rims.
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Not that it's a "performance" vehicle, but I have to re-program twice a year on my Avalanche....during the winter I run the factory 20" all-season wheels/tires but during the rest of the year I run 24"x10" Dropstar DS-2 rims. Each set has it's own sensors also....well worth the $70 cost.

The re-program not only affects the normal things like speedo and odometer but also traction control and ABS. It's done "per wheel" in the PCM and you have to input the tire size for each of the four.

In all honesty, it's those damn Tire Pressure Sensors that always give us hell.

Here in St. Louis, ELCO Chevy only charges $24 to perform this for me....and I'd gladly pay double that because it's just a pain.
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well no so much 17s since a lot of ricers put 17s or 18s on, but all the wheels I have been looking at (which is a lot lol) come in 20s, 22s, 24s, etc. I am just going to get different width tires, wide up front and even wider in the rear

Damn, I guess GM is rice because they put factory 17" wheels on my 4th gen SS...j/k. You're right that once you get into 20" and above, they usually are in even numbers.

I'll probably go with a wider rear wheel eventually, but not staggared front to back. This car looks good with the same diameter. I'm a big fan of GM's choice to staggar the Corvette's wheels and 4th gen Camaro's look good like that also.

Changing the diameter of your wheels will screw up your speedo, ABS, Stabilitrack, but that is easily fixed with a tune.
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i gota do my HRE's. ive wanted them for a long time and now ill have a car to put them on.
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Changing the diameter of your wheels will screw up your speedo, ABS, Stabilitrack, but that is easily fixed with a tune.
if you maintain the overall wheel height, you shouldnt have a problem. I switched my rears from 16's to 18s and researched the overall wheel height before I bought new tires. they are a 99.9999999% match with the old wheels. in fact, they were 1.3mm taller than my stock wheels.


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ABS isnt really affected when putting bigger wheels on unles you are going from a 16-24. then its just the weight that is affected not the ABS.
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I'd like to find a wheel that has a deep dish in the back (4 - 5 inches) and a less deep dish in the front (2 - 3 inches).

Anyone know of anything like that? Something kinda muscle car looking, not bling bling.

Maybe an anthracite painted center 5 spoke with polished deep dish lip and rivets?

Something like this?

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I'd like to find a wheel that has a deep dish in the back (4 - 5 inches) and a less deep dish in the front (2 - 3 inches).

Anyone know of anything like that? Something kinda muscle car looking, not bling bling.

Maybe an anthracite painted center 5 spoke with polished deep dish lip and rivets?

Something like this?

most staggered wheels come like that. they are smaller in the front because of the width. and a bigger lip in the rear because they are wider.
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I will definitely be doing staggered.
Both width, and diameter.
Probably 21x9's up front and 22x11's in the rear.
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