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View Poll Results: Do you want an All Season Tire Option for the SS
Yes I totally need those tires 58 29.74%
Nope I dont need em, I'll live with Summer Tires 54 27.69%
Stop being a bitch and buy some snow wheels 83 42.56%
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:15 PM   #26
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:22 PM   #27
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i live in northern NJ and i dont really care if the weather is bad i wont drive the camaro or i'll just drive my parents car if need be....its a good excuse to miss class
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:25 AM   #28
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not sure about every one else but for me the camaro is going to be my fun car if the weather is bad enought for me to question my tires then i will just drive the truck just my two cents.

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Old 11-12-2008, 12:30 PM   #29
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Mine will only come out during the nice days and it won't see winter at all
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:58 PM   #30
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Your buying a high performance car... It's not designed to drive in the winter. If you want a "daily driver" that you can drive all year buy the V6 (it comes with all season tires.).

No, performance tires only on the SS.
I hope that was a joke. If not, then that qualifies as one of the dumbest things I've read on this forum.
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:06 PM   #31
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The SS has a different suspension and is closer to the ground than the V6. Just like the vette you had, ITS NOT BEING MARKETED FOR WINTER DRIVING. The v6 is your 'all around' car.

I grew up in alaska, I've driven in stuff that makes anything anyone here in the lower 48 has driven in look like a normal commute (60 below and Ice Fog anyone?) Would I buy a vette or v8 camaro for winter driving? Only if i got another set of wheels and tires for it (and probably not even then with them being so LOW!).
Oh geeze you weren't kidding.....

Most cars aren't made for Alaska winters, however that says nothing about the lower 48. The SS will do fine here in Mass with snow tires. The ride height isn't that low where you have to worry about clearing PLOWED roads and driveways.

Also FEW cars are marketed as winter cars outside of AWD Subbies and the like. That mean you can't own a RWD BMW or Mercedes in the north??
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:09 PM   #32
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Oh geeze you weren't kidding.....

Most cars aren't made for Alaska winters, however that says nothing about the lower 48. The SS will do fine here in Mass with snow tires. The ride height isn't that low where you have to worry about clearing PLOWED roads and driveways.

Also FEW cars are marketed as winter cars outside of AWD Subbies and the like. That mean you can't own a RWD BMW or Mercedes in the north??
How many of them come with 20" tires that are 11" wide in the rear?
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:12 PM   #33
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Buy some steelies and some winter tires FTW. Or save the other drivers the headache and stay off the road with this RWD Monster.
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:14 PM   #34
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How many of them come with 20" tires that are 11" wide in the rear?
The 20" part means NOTHING for snow. Only the width is an issue because it has the tendency to compact the snow instead of slice through it. They make snow tires for that size so pretty much end of story. The power also isn't an issue as your right foot and the gear you start out in has complete control over that.

Oh and there are quite a few large Mercedes and BMW's floating around here with at least 275's.

To say the entire car isn't designed to be driven in snow is idiotic. They do cold weather testing just for that reason. Had he said the summer tires weren't made for it...when then it would be a rather large ..DUH
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:32 PM   #35
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Buy some 18's and put winters on it. Better for the summer, safer for the winter.

Quit your bitching.
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:40 PM   #36
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Buy some 18's and put winters on it. Better for the summer, safer for the winter.

Quit your bitching.

I might if anyone could DEFINITIVELY tell me the bolting pattern. Some say 5 x 115 as usual; others say NO, 5 x 120 like the G8, others...

Even tirerack doesn't list wheels yet; tires- yes, rims- no.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:11 PM   #37
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When you get your hands on the Camaro, it wont be winter, you'll have 6 months to get winter wheels/tires.
I bet somone will have some cheap wheel options out there.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:28 PM   #38
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When you get your hands on the Camaro, it wont be winter, you'll have 6 months to get winter wheels/tires.
I bet somone will have some cheap wheel options out there.
Dude, May can still be winter in Buffalo...
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:53 PM   #39
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Shows how much I travel.

We should have the results on what the lug pattern is in a couple of weeks.
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:09 AM   #40
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I love how people get so pissy about this. Chill, seriously.

Not everyone has room to put a set of tires, or park an extra car, or have parents that can just bail them out on a whim (but they do help sometimes!). I live in a co-op I have a 1 car garage that just about fits my car, 2 bicycles, and a couple beach chairs. If i am gonna jam a second set of wheels in there they will have race tires as I spend more time doing that per year than driving in the snow. Yes I did when i had my vette have a second car, and it was a pain in the butt, having to find places to park, having to move it to the other side of the street when the parking rules changed, having to spend an extra $250 every 6 months for insurance, having to make sure it runs. Its much easier when you have property you can just park it on, but some of us don't. Its honestly annoying and not worth it for the 2 days a year like I said.

Its settled, when it does snow I will just drive through with the summer tires on because A) its just a car, and B) I know how to handle a car like this in the snow with no problem. I live in Long island, not Buffalo, or Alaska! Have fun in your winter beaters, I will be enjoying my camaro year round no matter the climate.
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:19 AM   #41
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Ive driven my camaro with summer tires since Ive owned it. Maby not alaska tough, but chicago winters come darn close. I haven't had any issues...but then again Ive also been to lazy to buy some all season tires.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:31 PM   #42
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The thing about AK winters is they last half the year. The heck with all seasons. I'm going for winter tires for winter and summer tires for summer with 18" rims year round. Looks like I'll have to step down the rear brakes also.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:10 PM   #43
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You want all season tires for 2-3 days a year. Why would you sacrafice performance on 362 days, for 3 days? Buy a set of steelie wheels and real snow tires, they will be much better than all seasons anyway.
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So my old man test drove a Camaro 2SS (auto) last night. Mainly because it's his job... lol And he definitely was having a hard time keeping the Camaro going straight last night. Granted he said the entire GM Milford Proving Grounds had black ice on it so that didn't help.

But after his evaluation with the Camaro SS he did put this in his evaulation.
1.) He thinks that the FE3 suspension is a little too stiff for every day driving.
2.) He thinks the Camaro could use wider tires as well.

He said it was fast though!


As far as the whole thing regarding buying all season/winter tires and then new rims goes. You're better off going on craigslist and buying yourself a winter beater...
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I've already got my Monte w/ Blizzaks for a daily driver and my '86 GMC K3500 with studs for when it really gets nasty and trust me it can. But, that doesn't mean I don't want to take my Camaro out for some winter fun on the better days. When there's snow and ice on the road winter tires make a huge difference; much better than all seasons and way way better than summers. I really don't see what the big deal is. If you live in the south or you'd just rather not drive your hot rod in the winter; that's great. As for me, I like to have fun in the winter too. I am not a collector, I want to drive her and I want to drive her hard...
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You want all season tires for 2-3 days a year. Why would you sacrafice performance on 362 days, for 3 days? Buy a set of steelie wheels and real snow tires, they will be much better than all seasons anyway.
Steelie wheels... with 14 inch brembos all around? Everyone seems to underestimate what the cost of just the wheels will be for this endeavor, before the tires.
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You wont die in those 2 days of snow in summer tires. I've driven with Bridgestone Potenza's in snow when it dropped ealier then expected here in Buffalo.

I was cautious and I didn't even get a scare.
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EGADS!!!

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Anyone with me? It snows maybe 2-3 days a year here. I DO NOT want to spend $1300 on a set of rims and tires for 2 days of snow. I understand the reason for Ultra High performance summer tires being standard on the car, but GM should at least offer the option of a tire such as the Pirelli PZero Nero M&S which is an Ultra High Performance All Season Tire. Anyone with me?
hell no! get real, for someone who had GN, a vette all in between is complaining about a $1300. maybe you shouldn't own a car of this caliber if you can't aford it. stay with your find on craglist.
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hell no! get real, for someone who had GN, a vette all in between is complaining about a $1300. maybe you shouldn't own a car of this caliber if you can't aford it. stay with your find on craglist.
Oh boy looks like I made an enemy. Theres a lot more to it buddy. Theres a big difference between "affording it" and pissing money into the wind.

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