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Old 01-20-2009, 10:57 AM   #1
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The 2011+ Mustang Thread

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/20/r...ng-also-get-e/
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:00 AM   #2
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5.0 but 6.2 is very doubtful
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:02 AM   #3
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So its a 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 and a 5.0-liter V8... The V6 will be as powerful as the current Camaro SS L99? And I'm sure the V8 then will be more, but by how much more?
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:05 AM   #4
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Duratec 3.5 - Base V6
Ecoboost 3.5T - SVO V6
Coyote 5.0 - GT V8

Ecoboost 5.0T - Cobra ???
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:10 AM   #5
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Duratec 3.5 - Base V6
Ecoboost 3.5T - SVO V6
Coyote 5.0 - GT V8

Ecoboost 5.0T - Cobra ???
that would be sick if they brought the cobra back
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:10 AM   #6
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So its a 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 and a 5.0-liter V8... The V6 will be as powerful as the current Camaro SS L99? And I'm sure the V8 then will be more, but by how much more?
The article says the the 5.0 and EB 3.5 make the same power, the V6 just gets better mileage, and is probably more mod-able. Judging by other turbocharged, DI motors the V6 will probably also have a flatter torque curve than the 5.0 or L99.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:15 AM   #7
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i know the ecoboost could easily make 400HP/400TQ with a tune but it currently makes 350HP/350TQ from factory with 6psi boost. i think the information in the article is a bit off. if anything was similar from factory it would be the 5.0 Coyote and the 6.2 Boss (400HP vs 420HP)
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:19 AM   #8
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So its a 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 and a 5.0-liter V8... The V6 will be as powerful as the current Camaro SS L99? And I'm sure the V8 then will be more, but by how much more?
its not supposed to be all that much more... im sure it will be no more than the LS3.

The Eco-boost V6 creating 400/400 is almost scary. I cant imagine you'd be able to get the same amount of power out of that car through aftermarket, its likely stretched close to its limits.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:21 AM   #9
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A DOHC 6.2L V8 should be good for at least 480hp.

Plus in the Mustang, the EcoBoost will make 355hp.
* EcoBoost : 355hp - 350ft-lb torque
* 5.0L V8 : 400hp - 400ft-lb torque
* 6.2L V8 : 480hp??? - 400ft-lb torque???

I'm guessing the 6.2L V8 will replace the Supercharged 5.4L in the Cobra.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:22 AM   #10
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i think the Boss is good for 420TQ; the displacement is there
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:25 AM   #11
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A DOHC 6.2L V8 should be good for at least 480hp.

Plus in the Mustang, the EcoBoost will make 355hp.
* EcoBoost : 355hp - 350ft-lb torque
* 5.0L V8 : 400hp - 400ft-lb torque
* 6.2L V8 : 480hp??? - 400ft-lb torque???

I'm guessing the 6.2L V8 will replace the Supercharged 5.4L in the Cobra.


It says the 6 will make 400/400
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:26 AM   #12
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i personally don't think they will release it with 400/400. it is already in a lincoln with 350/350. a tune can makeup the difference, probably more
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:30 AM   #13
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The 6.2 will not make the Mustang. Its going to the Raptor and later to the Superduty Ford truck line. Also dont see Ford offering up two 400 hp cars. Maybe one but not two in the same car. They will underpower the turbo v6 and keep the V8's as the "muscle". The v6 ecoboost in the MKS is rated at 340hp/340tq. I see them keeping that for the Mustang and upping the v8 to 385hp/360tq. Doubt the return of the Cobra but the GT500 will still be the top of the Ford muscle car tier. Maybe with the ecoboost turbos on the 5.0...will ahve to wait and see.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:31 AM   #14
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the GT500 is a Cobra. its the Shelby GT500 Cobra
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:42 AM   #15
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Yes its the Shelby Cobra but it no longer sports the Cobra name on it like in the 90's and early 2000's. It now just sports the Shelby name on it with a few Cobra emblems. It was suppost to be the next variation of a Cobra but the SVT group got push into the mix with everyone else at Ford. They are no longer a specialty group amongst themselves. They kept the car and with the reassociation with Shelby it got his name on it instead of SVT.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:44 AM   #16
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Most of the info in that article is about the new Ford truck line which some of will carry over to the Mustang. Not all those numbers will carry over to the Mustang.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:45 AM   #17
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The part that everyone is forgetting about is what is the cost difference between the 2 engines and what is currently in the GT? Ford will keep the Mustangs cost to below that of the Camaro and have proven in the past that they have no problem putting a less HP motor in the GT as long as the car is cheaper.
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So... are the chevy boys spooked a little bit....
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Old 01-20-2009, 12:09 PM   #19
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So... are the chevy boys spooked a little bit....
Nope, not at all. I bought a Camaro SS because I like it...not because of what Ford does.

I'll still take mine to the track and I'll still race anything that lines up next to me...sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
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Not at all. This has been posted before by another rambling on about the next engine in the Mustang. I said it to him and will say it again now. Its all just hearsay and internet rumor. Ill believe it when I see it. I dont forsee 400hp in the Mustangs future. More hp...yep. 400...nope.
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So... are the chevy boys spooked a little bit....
Any Chevy boy who cares enough to get spooked would know the LS3 has 10x the capability of anything Ford would put in the mustang.
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So yall are spooked...
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Old 01-20-2009, 12:19 PM   #23
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Not me. I'm glad that Ford's finally taking a hint.

But I also think this whole arrangment will turn out different from what's expected. That article was about the F-150, and they mentioned the Mustang in passing. It might happen, just not the way some are expecting.
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Not at all. This has been posted before by another rambling on about the next engine in the Mustang. I said it to him and will say it again now. Its all just hearsay and internet rumor. Ill believe it when I see it. I dont forsee 400hp in the Mustangs future. More hp...yep. 400...nope.
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So yall are spooked...
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