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Old 06-01-2010, 05:06 PM   #26
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This is supposed to be Bumble Bee for the 3rd Transformer's movie, but is it also the new Z28? It obviously has some Leno bits, but wouldn't GM use the movie to market the Z28 just like it has for the Camaro in general? HMMMMMMMMMM!
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This is supposed to be Bumble Bee for the 3rd Transformer's movie, but is it also the new Z28? It obviously has some Leno bits, but wouldn't GM use the movie to market the Z28 just like it has for the Camaro in general? HMMMMMMMMMM!

Gm used Transformers in 2006 to market the 2010 Camaro. The movie came out 3 years prior to the release of the actual production car. So I suspect that the Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen Bumblebee is the Z28 which will be released in 2011 as a 2012. It has the same design and style as the anticipated Z28 sketches from Motor Trend and GM diecast car models.

Now this new Bumblebee from T3 could easily be an homage to the Jay Leno Camaro simply because he is an enthusiast and the car has gotten alot of attention from aftermarket companmies. Or it could be to see how the public reacts to it maybe for a future 4-cyl turbo or V6 turbo model to replace the V6 we have now. I wouldn't be shocked if this was GM's thinking. The truth is Ford just made big strides over their previous V6 in the Mustang to bring it to the Camaro's level.

Now when the Camaro came out the V6 had almost as much HP as the outgoing V8 Mustang GT. Could GM use that same strategy when they give bumps of power to the V8 and V6 in the coming years? Maybe. Have a V6 Turbo with similiar HP to the Mustang GT and have the SS make a mockery of the GT and the Z28 and GT500 battle for pony car supremacy!

By the way my money is on the Z28 for "King of the Hill"
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This is supposed to be Bumble Bee for the 3rd Transformer's movie, but is it also the new Z28? It obviously has some Leno bits, but wouldn't GM use the movie to market the Z28 just like it has for the Camaro in general? HMMMMMMMMMM!
that might be the future stylistic direction for the Gen6 - not the wing spoiler but the "toned down" appearance of the front. Just like the 2010 Mustang toned down the raw aggressive look of the Mustang to be something more subdued and sporty, I think that will be the same direction for the Gen6.
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The owner of the dealer I but my cars from was at a GM meeting this past week to go over new and future models. He said the Z28 was confirmed and he was told could be out as early as 1st Quarter 2011 as a 2012 model. Production was rumored, at the meeting, to be starting Nov - Dec 2010 if all goes well. It was said they want to get the car out with the Verts maybe even earlier. But Gm fully expects to have a Z28 on the streets by mid 2011.They also talked about the new Silverados with their new frames and design. Also the meeting confirmed the new Vette to be due out in 2013 (60th Anniversary) as a 2014 model and they also confirmed the new platform for the 6th Gen Camaro. The 6th Gen is probably gonig to be out 2014 as a 2015 model from what they were told but GM didn't go into to much detail on the 6th Gen. But, it looks like our Z28 is real and is right around the corner!

I trust my dealer and I know the owner for over 15 years and know he wouldn't lie to me. The times and dates are subject to change he told me, but he said a Z28 is no doubt confirmed and is being planned for a 2011 launch as a 2012 model.
I believe that the Z28 is definitely coming, everything seems to be pointing in that direction. I trust that your guy is right and the Z28 will have the LSA engine. I am sure that Ford is trying to find out what Chevy is going bring out and Chevy is doing the same thing with Ford. Unfortunately the people actually buying the cars will be the last ones to find out anything for sure. Thanks for keeping us updated.
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funny thing is the challenger isn't even talked about in the pony car wars

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i donno it sounds like gm is also trying to join the green movement, even with talk of the c7 vette they are looking @ smaller engines maybe ur z28 will be an ecoboost type... v-6 twin turbo like the leno car... thats what the t3 is... the body @ least
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i donno it sounds like gm is also trying to join the green movement, even with talk of the c7 vette they are looking @ smaller engines maybe ur z28 will be an ecoboost type... v-6 twin turbo like the leno car... thats what the t3 is... the body @ least

smaller engines with FI and DI from the factory are the way of the future for automobiles. just the way things are.
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funny thing is the challenger isn't even talked about in the pony car wars

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So true, lol. I am hearing rumblings of a Viper powered Challenger, though.
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smaller engines with FI and DI from the factory are the way of the future for automobiles. just the way things are.
sad but true... the V8 is going to be an endangered species..

plus with they way gas prices increase in a few years we wont be able to afford to even fuel our cars lol
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So true, lol. I am hearing rumblings of a Viper powered Challenger, though.
I don't know why. There is not a lot of sales for this car already. Personally, I like the car. Look at the price of the SRT8. For that kind of money it should already have the viper engine in it. Who know, the lack of sales will probably make this car a collector's item.
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I was at the dealership yesterday. The Black 2SS I test drove was Sweet, but I REALLY want that Z28.

When they can be ordered, I will have been in line for about half an hour, with a fat down payment check in hand. I'll reserve the happy dance for when I find out the delivery date.

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sad but true... the V8 is going to be an endangered species..

plus with they way gas prices increase in a few years we wont be able to afford to even fuel our cars lol

and if/when it gets to that point. I'll be making my own alcohol for my camaro. back to the traditional roots of automotive racing.
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i donno it sounds like gm is also trying to join the green movement, even with talk of the c7 vette they are looking @ smaller engines maybe ur z28 will be an ecoboost type... v-6 twin turbo like the leno car... thats what the t3 is... the body @ least
the smaller engines are mainly due to the fact they will have DI. smaller displacement more power due to the fact it's direct injection. why keep them at 6.2 or go bigger if power is going to increase?

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wouldn't that be a challenger not powered at all anymore? since there is no viper. . .

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Did I hear alcohol?...
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Well now, I just talk to my neighbor. He is an engineer at GM. And he was part of the team that developed the 2010 camaro. (I won't name him) He likes to walk his dog every evening and stops by to chat about my 2SS every now and again... He loves the car and knows how much I love it too. As he was always skeptical about commiting to answering this question. Is there gonna be a Z-28? Well, he finally cracked and admitted, YES! there will be a 2012 Z-28 Camaro... He's an honest, straight up guy and I believe his words completely. Although, I didn't inquire about an actual release date. I'm so freak'in excited, after talking with him. I came straight inside and logged on, Just to relay the great news... (I'm 52 and I don't get excited about to many thing anymore) Except for my 2SS LS3 RJT. I really love it. (more than my vette) But, I originally wanted a Z-28 when I orderd my 2SS last year. So, I WILL be selling or trading in my 2010 2SS for the Z-28. Damn, I'm so excited... I feel like a teenager again. Honey, break out the champagne. Our world is gonna rock tonight...
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I get two; the car would get one Or does 100 octane count as two?...

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Well now, I just talk to my neighbor. He is an engineer at GM. And he was part of the team that developed the 2010 camaro. (I won't name him) He likes to walk his dog every evening and stops by to chat about my 2SS every now and again... He loves the car and knows how much I love it too. As he was always skeptical about commiting to answering this question. Is there gonna be a Z-28? Well, he finally cracked and admitted, YES! there will be a 2012 Z-28 Camaro... He's an honest, straight up guy and I believe his words completely. Although, I didn't inquire about an actual release date. I'm so freak'in excited, after talking with him. I came straight inside and logged on, Just to relay the great news... (I'm 52 and I don't get excited about to many thing anymore) Except for my 2SS LS3 RJT. I really love it. (more than my vette) But, I originally wanted a Z-28 when I orderd my 2SS last year. So, I WILL be selling or trading in my 2010 2SS for the Z-28. Damn, I'm so excited... I feel like a teenager again. Honey, break out the champagne. Our world is gonna rock tonight...
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I get two; the car would get one Or does 100 octane count as two?...
100 octane? you are thinking too small. E100 is closer to 116 octane


then there's the methanol mixture


ooh... and if I could get a hold of some Xylene (despite it carcinogenic properties). tho you do need to run at least 10-15% mixture in your fuel tank to see maximum benefits. ... hmmm....we'll see.


this should keep you busy for a while...

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/pdfs/41853.pdf


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This is supposed to be Bumble Bee for the 3rd Transformer's movie, but is it also the new Z28? It obviously has some Leno bits, but wouldn't GM use the movie to market the Z28 just like it has for the Camaro in general? HMMMMMMMMMM!
Man, I hope the Z28 doesn't come with that gawdy looking spoiler! Talk about cheesey looking!
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Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Confirmed
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Posted: Jun 02, 2010 10:10 a.m.

Not to be outdone by Ford’s highly-anticipated reintroduction of the Mustang 5.0, Chevrolet is planning to bring back the coveted Camaro Z28.

Karl Stracke, GM’s Vice President of Global Vehicle Engineering, recently confirmed to Motor Trend that the rumored plans are true. MT writes, “Five minutes into the nickel tour of our facilities and out of earshot of his PR handler, Stracke casually served up unprompted confirmation of the return of the Camaro Z/28.”

Top Speed elaborates: “According to him things are going to change for the next Camaro Z28; it will be built on a new Alpha platform (and not the Zeta like the current car). He also said that he doesn’t like the steering wheel controls on the Camaro because they are placed too far and the driver needs to remove his hands from the wheel when trying to reach them. A couple of other tweaks will be made to ensure the new Camaro will be exactly what he wants it to be.”

Not surprisingly, Stracke’s bomb dropping has set off a wave of speculation.

“Stracke didn’t get into much detail about the Z28, but it’s expected to borrow the Caddie CTS-V engine: a venerable 556 horsepower supercharged 6.2-liter LSA V8 that fires the V Coupe to 60 in 3.9 seconds,” writes Motor Crave.

Motor Authority adds, “Beyond the upgraded performance, the Z-28 is also expected to get a more aggressive exterior appearance than the current SS, including larger air intakes, front splitter, rear spoiler, and unique interior treatments, with Z-28 badges inside and out.”

All that’s left now is to wait and see. According to Autoblog, “Chevrolet officials have declined to comment on the matter, but we're guessing that it might appear sometime next year as a 2012 model.”

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Maybe it shows leno bits and is the future Z28 leading one to believe it could well be a track package twin turbo 6.
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