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Old 06-01-2010, 10:32 PM   #26
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They should start with better paint jobs. Anything and everything scratches or chips the paint. Then find a solution about the gill chipping that I hear is becoming a huge issue due to the wide hips. I have not had any issues with chipping yet and am getting my frontend, roof, and gills bra'd this weekend. The overall design is really nice though.
I saw on on the lot this weekend. It looked like somebody dried it with sandpaper. I mean even if the detail guy used a shitting towel
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Old 06-01-2010, 11:51 PM   #27
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I might consider something based on the early gen 2, but I wouldn't want anything to do with a gen 3 or 4 based Camaro.
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Since the 6th gen Camaro is going going to be based off of the Alpha platform, the car will undoubtedly be a lot smaller than it is today. I think GM needs to get away from the retro look. The 6th gen should definitely "look" like a Camaro, but I think GM should try something more futuristic and modern rather than look to the past for design cues.
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I personally thought that GM made a huge mistake when the dumped the first generation for the secnd generation. I hope that they do not repeat this mistake. Harley-Davidson can show the way to GM. To the casual observer, Harleys never change, those of us that own them, ride them and love them know differently. Though they appear to be the same with the same classic styling, any presently produced model, when compared with the original will look the same but will be in reality totally different and improved. When a company hits on a classic design, it is best to stick with it. I think that GM delivered a home run with the Gen 5 and I fear that the only thing that they can do to it is to ruin it. Give us more power, correct a few flaws like the passenger seat, up the quality quotient, but please do not ruin it!
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:18 AM   #31
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Like one guy said already, follow the Porsche model and not do any drastic design changes. Its changed already since the car will be much smaller and lighter, but no need to have completely different looking car.

Give it more power, sustain the current look with refinements and upgrade the material used for the interior.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:07 AM   #32
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The Challenger has no where to go, there was only one original design and then it died.
Don't forget about the cool stylings of the 1978-1983 Dodge Challenger... Classic.



As for the Camaro, I could ask for:

1. The accounting department to stay out of the design department. Don't try to save $11 on a part by giving it a redesign because it is more economical but then loses visual appeal. Just charge me an extra $11. Remember chrome? I can't think of any reason any car from the 1930's to the 1960's needed any, but could you imagine a '59 Caddy without that grill?

2. Don't over-correct. Find a way too improve that doesn't make the car lose a.) Visual appeal b.) Performance. Example: maybe there is a flaw in the design that makes the gills get pecked by road grit. Please don't correct by bringing in the wide body style too far.

3. Don't get too gadgety. I remember a time in the mid 1980's when every car manufacturer thought they needed a soothing female voice to tell me the "Door is ajar", or "Lights are on". We didn't need it, much like many gadgets that they put in cars today. It's just added weight and cost that I think most people could live without. I have not done a poll, but I doubt that an option like cruise control was the purchase deciding factor for most Camaro buyers.

If a design is great, it doesn't need many changes. Keep the changes simple, moderate. Unless were' talking engine... I could tolerate the return of the big block. 2012 Camaro SS 454? Yes, please!
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Hey Chase, I'm not sure how everyone else feels but pretty happy with 5th Gen styling. Maybe some hideaway head lights or retro tail light shapes of 1st Gen 69 model. Just tweaks in the current model.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:28 AM   #34
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It wont happen but I'd like to see them do the impossible...do almost a full off 1st gen looking Camaro with updates and safety of todays cars. Sure the 5th gen was a great attempt and brought a lot of people back but I'd like to see them do something Ford never did with their Mustang and do a car that matches the original almost blow for blow. Not going to happen I know but I can dream right?

+1 I'd trade mine in tomorrow for a car like that.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:33 AM   #35
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I would like a 4th Gen look. I am wondering what it would look like.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:41 AM   #36
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Continue with the current styling but with some updates.
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The exterior needs to change very little. Just minor tweaking. They could kill sales if they do something radically "updated" to the exterior and loose the sex appeal. Look athe Porsche 911, its overall shape hasn't changed in 30+ years. Just refinements and tweaks.

The interior can change totally, I am not bonkers with any of it.
I disagree. One of the main reasons I dislike porche is because if its overall shape. The same, boring, rounded off object.

Try something new guys imho....
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Since the 6th gen Camaro is going going to be based off of the Alpha platform, the car will undoubtedly be a lot smaller than it is today. I think GM needs to get away from the retro look. The 6th gen should definitely "look" like a Camaro, but I think GM should try something more futuristic and modern rather than look to the past for design cues.
Given that that statement is true (which it is) the car is going to lose some room- most likely in the trunk- which will put it in the category of useless just like the GTO is/was. I would venture to guess that you will notice very little change on the exterior when the platform switch occurs. Too much change at once is probably not the greatest of ideas. Personally, I would LOVE for them to figure out how to bring T-tops back and hold the structural integrity they are forcing themselves to maintain for crash tests. That's really my only wish for a "change".
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:36 AM   #39
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How will the upcoming CAFE standards affect it?
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How will the upcoming CAFE standards affect it?

I believe that is a lot of the reason why they are going to the new platform, to reduce size and weight. Weight is the enemy of performance and fuel economy so it's good on both fronts.
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I'd also only slightly tweak it for even more 1st gen style cues, most noticeably the front facisa and rear taillights. I'd love to see a modern version of hideaway R/S style headlights, and 1st gen taillights.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:39 AM   #42
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I wouldn't mind a design based on the '70 1/2 - '73 Camaro. Since it will be on a smaller platform, the low, wide, smooth look of the first 2nd generations would work well, I'd think.
Or just have a brand new design all it's own that still has Camaro heritage cues..
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I expect they'll take the current design for a starting point, and then play with it.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:54 AM   #44
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Really, we'll have to see where the last half of the current generation takes us. They could do a major styling update the way they did when they added full bumpers to second gens, or LS1s to fourth gens. I think whatever they do would be a progression of that. I'd like to see GM put her on a diet, and maybe add a little more sleekness (that's a word now).
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Given that that statement is true (which it is) the car is going to lose some room- most likely in the trunk- which will put it in the category of useless just like the GTO is/was. I would venture to guess that you will notice very little change on the exterior when the platform switch occurs. Too much change at once is probably not the greatest of ideas. Personally, I would LOVE for them to figure out how to bring T-tops back and hold the structural integrity they are forcing themselves to maintain for crash tests. That's really my only wish for a "change".

I agree, but I really think the 6th gen is going to be smaller than the 5th gen. I also think it's going to weigh less. I think we're going to see a shorter nose, and smaller ass end. I also think we're going to see 4 cyl, 6 cyl, and 8 cyl engine options. Overall I think the car is going to slim down, and become more of a sporty coupe than a "muscle" car. T-tops would be fantastic if they could pull it off. I think the car is going to handle better because it will be lighter and will have a smaller foot print. I would prefer they just left the car the way it is now but with minor changes to the interior and exterior styling. However, the times they are a changin, and if GM wants to compete, they are going to have to change too. It's rumored that the next gen Corvette is going to be lighter and with a smaller displacement V8 in place of the LS3. I think this same thing will occur with the 6th gen Camaro. So, smaller displacement V8 in a car the size of the Camaro? Sure it would work, but not as well as the LS3. And I don't think that GM is going to alienate their customers by going from a 6.2 liter down to a 5.5 liter (this is the rumored next gen corvette motor, example only) without also slimming down the car and making it weigh less.
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I agree, but I really think the 6th gen is going to be smaller than the 5th gen. I also think it's going to weigh less. I think we're going to see a shorter nose, and smaller ass end. I also think we're going to see 4 cyl, 6 cyl, and 8 cyl engine options. Overall I think the car is going to slim down, and become more of a sporty coupe than a "muscle" car. T-tops would be fantastic if they could pull it off. I think the car is going to handle better because it will be lighter and will have a smaller foot print. I would prefer they just left the car the way it is now but with minor changes to the interior and exterior styling. However, the times they are a changin, and if GM wants to compete, they are going to have to change too. It's rumored that the next gen Corvette is going to be lighter and with a smaller displacement V8 in place of the LS3. I think this same thing will occur with the 6th gen Camaro. So, smaller displacement V8 in a car the size of the Camaro? Sure it would work, but not as well as the LS3. And I don't think that GM is going to alienate their customers by going from a 6.2 liter down to a 5.5 liter (this is the rumored next gen corvette motor, example only) without also slimming down the car and making it weigh less.
But if they do slim it down to a 5.5 liter, remember that the next gen V8 will be direct injected. Smaller, but with the same power as your big 6.2. It's what the LS1 did for/to the BBC. Same power, but better tech, lighter weight, more fuel efficiency, etc...
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I love the way the 5th generation looks - big, powerful, and imposing - but I think if they try to scale it down for the new smaller platform it will lose its impact. A car that's small and light shouldn't try to look big and beefy. I think we'll see something lower, something sleeker, something more suited to the crowded streets of Hong Kong.
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i think they need a updated version of the 4th gen....


4th Gen

The 4th gen is just typical of car styling throughout the 80s and 90s. I don't think any design from those decades will endure the test of time.

The Naughties on the other hand, gave birth to amazing designs like the Vanquish, Porsche GT, R8 and of course the Gen5 Camaro.
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It's no coincidence that the retro look coincides with the fact that a lot of baby boomers are retiring and looking to recapture their youth (AKA mid-life crisis redux).

The next generation won't need to cater to that market any more, but will need to attract the next generation of buyers, so I am predicting a significant design change. I think you will see the same happen with the 2015 Mustang as well. I think the 2010 Mustang design is an interim design - a design to bridge between the 2005 Mustang and the 2015 Mustang.
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A bigger opening for the trunk would be a start.
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