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Old 10-21-2008, 11:28 PM   #1
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Taking the "easy" route

what will a CAI, headers, cat-back and corsas gain you? (LS3 - SS - manual)

What's the HP vs. Cost ratio?

I dont want forced induction, spray, or modified internals. Yet.

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Old 10-22-2008, 12:07 AM   #2
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I don't know but I will definitely order mine with all the performance upgrades available.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:11 AM   #3
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HP/$ is not going to be grate so i wouldnt look at it like that.

if you got all of those things AND a good tune you could be over at 500hp with a little effort.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:44 AM   #4
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:06 AM   #5
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Old 10-22-2008, 07:35 AM   #6
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on a vette that'll get you between 35-40hp with a tune
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:58 PM   #7
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yeah I agree you'd get somewhere near 50hp... But you'd really need a tune to optimize those parts... that would truly help your hp/$ ratio...
If you did all that and a tune I'd expect closer to 75hp... So 500hp isn't all that far off
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:03 PM   #8
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ok rookie question but what do you mean by getting it tuned?
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Old 10-22-2008, 03:24 PM   #9
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Newer cars have a computer that manages your engine settings. The stock setup (tune) is pretty mild. So, aftermarket tuners can retune you ECM for better performance or to allow you engine to make better use of any aftermarket mods you may have.
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:00 PM   #10
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Newer cars have a computer that manages your engine settings. The stock setup (tune) is pretty mild. So, aftermarket tuners can retune you ECM for better performance or to allow you engine to make better use of any aftermarket mods you may have.
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Old 10-22-2008, 05:06 PM   #12
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:44 PM   #13
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oh god...this place went from a forum, to a crack addiction to a religion?? impressive influence for a car lol


i miss tuning older cars - all u need in a screw driver and maybe a wrench to tweak the carb

now it costs me @ least $400 just to get the A/F ratio changed on my car...
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oh god...this place went from a forum, to a crack addiction to a religion?? impressive influence for a car lol


i miss tuning older cars - all u need in a screw driver and maybe a wrench to tweak the carb

now it costs me @ least $400 just to get the A/F ratio changed on my car...
Just dont Drink the KoolAid, i did and im gonna be honest, it tastes a little funny......
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I noticed there a lot of people on this forum from texas, this forum doesn't have offices in Waco does it?
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what will a CAI, headers, cat-back and corsas gain you? (LS3 - SS - manual)

What's the HP vs. Cost ratio?

I dont want forced induction, spray, or modified internals. Yet.

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All of that plus a tune is good for maybe 30-40 at the wheels. You should make it to 410whp. I've heard 425 for full bolton LS3's, but those are probably inflated Dynojet numbers on a cold, dry day. That's probably also with things like electronic water pump and a ported intake.

HP/$ may suck for boltons, but trust me, it pays back in dividends the second you throw a cam in the car, clean up the heads, and tighten up the valvetrain.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:02 PM   #21
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Here's a link from one of the best "LS2/3" tuners over on the Corvette Forum.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2164237
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No, we just have the highest concentration of hard core Camaro enthusiast. You know........cuz Texas is the biggest and best....
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:44 AM   #23
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So if you are getting all GMPP parts like the CAI, shorty headers, and exhaust they would not tune it for you as well or do you need to go to another shop for that?

I hope to order all of it at the same time and have it installed before I even pick up the car.

I'd prefer to just replace the original parts and have a cost savings but I expect to just sell the stock parts as they will essentially be brand new.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:52 AM   #24
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So if you are getting all GMPP parts like the CAI, shorty headers, and exhaust they would not tune it for you as well or do you need to go to another shop for that?

I hope to order all of it at the same time and have it installed before I even pick up the car.

I'd prefer to just replace the original parts and have a cost savings but I expect to just sell the stock parts as they will essentially be brand new.
The unfortunate catch-22 in this situation is the fact that a tune is really going to amplify the effects of the GMPP parts, but in order to get a tune you'll void your warranty, and hence going aftermarket would be more productive at that point.

It is unfortunate GMPP doesn't offer some sort of "performance tune" that would keep the car under warranty. To me, the only point of getting GMPP parts is to maintain the warranty, while adding performance to my vehicle. If I cannot do that effectively, I might as well void my warranty and go all aftermarket parts to maximize my ROI.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:55 AM   #25
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Well hopefully they will add a tune or stage kit as an option. I'd like to get one for 93 octane if possible.
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