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Old 06-17-2010, 03:47 AM   #35
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Maybe gears next. I always forget to check my rpms as I go through the traps so I can tell Ted. I don't want it shifting into 5th. I'm trying to stuff in stages now. First was the slicks. Now the stall. Then the fuel system and more boost, and then gears. When our weather gets good again, the car should do 10.50's without ever opening anything on the engine. Thanks for the kind words guys!!
With that new stall you should be in the mid 10's for sure. My 4th gen dropped about half a second with a vigalante 3200. Dont be surprised if you loose a little mph at the traps. I know I did. Lower E.t. is all that matters in the end. Your car is awesome BTW
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:35 AM   #36
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With the 4.10's I trap 115 @ 6400 in 4th. For a blown motor 3.73's would be the way to go IMO. If you cam it and are able to spin it to 6800 you'll see about 122 with a 28" tall tire and 4.10's. 3.73's will get you 125 @ 6400 in 4th. I plan on blowing my motor soon, just hope the 4.10's aren't to steep. I'll probably have to start in second then.

I run a Circle D 3K stall. It does not hunt and my shift completion RPM is up a few hundred. I have it set to lock at 100 MPH right when the HP curve starts to dip. The 3K stall is perfect for a blown application. Also make sure it is a tight (type A) stator vs a loose (type B). Blown motors need the tight stall so there not wasting HP/TQ. I have not raced the new verter, but plan on doing so this weekend weather permitting. There is a lot of tuning involved with the 6L80E and no-one at the present time has managed to gain full and instantaneous lockup at any given speed. I am actually working on this with my tuner and upon completion the lockup converters will be able to be used to their designed potential.
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Old 07-07-2010, 04:01 AM   #37
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does circle D recomend WOT lock up??

i talked with the guys at yank when i got my converter and they said to never run there converter with wot tcc apply. they would not recomend that to anyone.
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Old 07-07-2010, 07:00 AM   #38
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Since I recently converted my L99/A6 Auto over to a Cammed LS3/A6 Auto im about to throw in a 3200 Stall converter.

Since the day I dynoed the car after doing the conversion/Cam I dont know what she has gained however I left ADM with 432hp

a 3200 Stall should help in the lowend BIG TIME and put the Power to the Pavement.



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Guess I just need to work on hitting the traps faster than 109 and 4th gear will be just right...

Stall Converter and Trans Cooler is on my list... hitting 1.7 60' is a nice target.

Get ahold of Andy at ADM and speak to him about his Trans Cooler. Andy has an awsome set up ! It's not expensive at all and the work/job is done very clean.

With the temps reaching almost 100 up here in DFW and driving my car 70 to 90 on the highway my car barely gets past 180.

If I do some hard take offs out of the hole yeah it starts to heat up however she never gets much past 180

imo ANYONE with an A6 needs a Trans Cooler Especially with a Torque converter.
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:39 AM   #39
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does circle D recommend WOT lock up??

i talked with the guys at yank when i got my converter and they said to never run there converter with wot tcc apply. they would not recommend that to anyone.
Yes...It is guaranteed to 1000HP. That is one of the reasons I went with them. Once the tuning issue is figured out us A6 guys will be golden.
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:54 AM   #40
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Yes...It is guaranteed to 1000HP. That is one of the reasons I went with them. Once the tuning issue is figured out us A6 guys will be golden.
What tuning issue are you referring to?

As for locking up the converter under WOT, it really isn't a good idea because what you've got in there is a clutch disk with only a fraction of the surface material of a manual trans clutch AND it's immersed in very slippery transmission fluid.

If the converter is efficient enough there really is no need to lock it up under WOT as I've been running killer times in my Corvette for the last three years with a Yank SS3600.
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Old 07-07-2010, 10:15 AM   #41
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Do you tune your own car? Im running the ss3600 in my camaro and I am always curious to see how other people are running similar parts.
Yeah, I've been doing both the installs and tuning on my car for a little under 3 years now and have built several others for various friends. If you do a search on Youtube for "thesubfloor" the video for my 9.950 pass (all motor) is posted there.

Sadly though I had to sell my soul to the devil when I bought the Camaro as I had to promise the wife I wouldn't mod it. :-(
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Old 07-07-2010, 10:50 AM   #42
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LOL, any chance you would share your a6 tune from your vette?
Sure, just send an e-mail to syclone98@hotmail.com and I'll reply with the tune attached.

Also, as an A6 guy here's something you might want to check out:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-tech-performance/2624720-looking-to-upgrade-your-a6-transmission-well-the-wait-might-finally-be-over-new-post.html

I'm gonna start a similar post on this forum but in a nutshell I'm running a built 6L80 from Century Transmission (near Houston) using the newly developed Alto clutches and we're purposely gonna beat on it at the track as much as possible over the next three months to see how it holds up as I've gone through 6 transmissions in the 3 years I've owned the car.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:09 AM   #43
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What tuning issue are you referring to?

As for locking up the converter under WOT, it really isn't a good idea because what you've got in there is a clutch disk with only a fraction of the surface material of a manual trans clutch AND it's immersed in very slippery transmission fluid.

If the converter is efficient enough there really is no need to lock it up under WOT as I've been running killer times in my Corvette for the last three years with a Yank SS3600.
The Camaro 6L80E is not set up to run an aftermarket converter. The clutch packs used are not designed to slip like stock therefore they burn up. The code in the tranny demands slip at various areas and applies a regulated (not full) line pressure to achieve a desired slip rate. There is allot of tuning involved in getting the thing streetable. As for WOT lockup, some converters are designed just for this. The stock is designed for it as well as Circle D, Pro Torque, and a few others. The clutch capacity in a performance converter far exceeds that of a stocker. It is merely a product of how much psi do I need to lock up. The converter is just like the clutches in the tranny, they will always have some slip during engagement but hold all day if they are built/tuned correctly.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:17 AM   #44
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The Camaro 6L80E is not set up to run an aftermarket converter. The clutch packs used are not designed to slip like stock therefore they burn up. The code in the tranny demands slip at various areas and applies a regulated (not full) line pressure to achieve a desired slip rate. There is allot of tuning involved in getting the thing streetable. As for WOT lockup, some converters are designed just for this. The stock is designed for it as well as Circle D, Pro Torque, and a few others. The clutch capacity in a performance converter far exceeds that of a stocker. It is merely a product of how much psi do I need to lock up. The converter is just like the clutches in the tranny, they will always have some slip during engagement but hold all day if they are built/tuned correctly.
Well I'm running pretty much the same 6L80 in my Corvette and the aftermarket converter in there works just fine. The thing that doesn't work very well however is the stock clutch packs which is why I'm currently testing out the new Alto clutches.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:48 AM   #45
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Thanks everyone for your input!!! Keep it coming
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:52 AM   #46
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Thanks everyone for your input!!! Keep it coming
I work in Sacramento in case you ever wanted to see what a 3600 stall feels like.
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Well I'm running pretty much the same 6L80 in my Corvette and the aftermarket converter in there works just fine. The thing that doesn't work very well however is the stock clutch packs which is why I'm currently testing out the new Alto clutches.
What year vette do you have so I can look at the stock tune file?
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:55 AM   #48
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What year vette do you have so I can look at the stock tune file?
It's a 2007 but I'm not running anything close to a stock tune anymore.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:57 AM   #49
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It's a 2007 but I'm not running anything close to a stock tune anymore.
Did you do any tuning in the lockup tables?
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I work in Sacramento in case you ever wanted to see what a 3600 stall feels like.
NO SH*T?! Do you work for the State or something, lol? (Sorry - I do, lol). Anyways, I ran a 3800 stall in my '02, but I know I'd definately be interested in seeing your ride Actually - that's stupid; YES - I'd be interested. I'm sure your 3600 and 6L80 is WAY different than my 3800 and 4L60, lol. YES - I'm down
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:00 PM   #51
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Did you do any tuning in the lockup tables?
I've got it set up so that it won't lockup at all under WOT and I also have it turned it off in D mode for anything less than 65MPH at part throttle. I have a really big cam in the car so I find that improves drivability as it tends to chug a bit at low RPMs if the converter is locked.
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