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Old 10-23-2008, 12:25 AM   #1
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V6 Speed?

We all know the SS is the speed demon but for some its price range is a little out of availability so i was actually a little concerned about the speed of the v6 camaro considering it weighs so much.

Any details on 0-60 if not any educated guesses?
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:29 AM   #2
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I believe it's 6.1
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:40 AM   #3
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thanx hopefully we will somehow be able to break that 6 mark
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:22 AM   #4
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Although i had heard it'd pull 5.9 on this site actually, do a little digging and see what you come up with.
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Old 10-23-2008, 05:36 AM   #5
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Refer to this post. I have a feeling it will more accurately reflect actual 0-60 times, when driven by a good driver who knows how to launch.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=97039#post97039

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Old 10-23-2008, 02:48 PM   #6
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I was thinking of making a posting of this but decided not to just because I don't want to get a lot of people mad at me. But someone I know. (I can't say who) that works at a certain place (I can't say where) just drove a 2010 V6 Camaro LS last night.

I talked to this person just last night, and he gave me his/her driving impressions of it last night. I wanted to know how it felt compared to the Cobalt SS Turbocharged that does 0-60 in 5.5-5.7 seconds. Because it's coming down between these two for me. Well a 2LT Camaro w RS, but in comparison to the Cobalt, I know which is lighter and smaller, this person said that the Camaro V6 is quick for a car it's size but left something to be desired. Granted this is probably still a pre-production Camaro, but I asked them for the fun factor which one would they get between the V6 Camaro and the Cobalt SS Turbocharged, and they said the Cobalt is/feels quicker between the two....
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Smaller engine might feel quicker due to it working much harder and revving much higher to produce the same power. I had that perception when I had my 96 V6 and my 00Z(which I still have). Small cars with 4 cylinders are not my cup of tea. It comes down to personal preference.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:33 PM   #8
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makes sense since i believe the cobalt ss/tc turned a quicker time around the nuremberg than even the SS, or it was just slower.
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:32 AM   #9
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Smaller engine might feel quicker due to it working much harder and revving much higher to produce the same power. I had that perception when I had my 96 V6 and my 00Z(which I still have). Small cars with 4 cylinders are not my cup of tea. It comes down to personal preference.
Oh definitely. I know it's sorta unfair to compare a FWD turbo 4 to a RWD N/A V6 Camaro. I do also realize that RWD > FWD ultimately. Which is what I'm trying to get next.

But the Cobalt SS Turbocharged with it's 260hp DI, VVT, Turbocharged and inter-cooled engine makes 260hp & 260ft lbs of torque. It also weighs in only at 2991lbs so 260hp is going to feel plenty powerful for a car its size and I realize that.

My only concern with the Camaro is its weight. Which @ around 3740lbs with only 300hp (which is a lot don't get me wrong) it may not be enough to really move the Camaro as fast as I would like it too. I realize there will be mods out there, but in order to get any real gains, without converting to F.I. bolt-ons will only get you so far.... I guess I just have to wait for the V6 to come out before I can really make any decisions.

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makes sense since i believe the cobalt ss/tc turned a quicker time around the nuremberg than even the SS, or it was just slower.
The Cobalt SS Turbocharged posted a Gring lap time of 8:22, the Camaro SS was 8:20 so the Balt was two seconds slower...

But who I spoke to last night has test driven practically everything in GM's line up from trucks, to the CTS-V, to the ZR1... So I take his word and impressions very seriously, in that I know what he's talking about. I think I just got my hopes up a little high for what his impression would be after driving a V6 Camaro. It certainly was positive and he gave it two thumbs up you could say. But in comparison to the Cobalt SS Turbo I guess maybe I'm expecting too much from the V6? But ultimately I'm going to have to see for myself when I test drive the two...
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My only concern with the Camaro is its weight. Which @ around 3740lbs with only 300hp (which is a lot don't get me wrong) it may not be enough to really move the Camaro as fast as I would like it too.
This is exactly my Thinking But if its 5.9 im happy enough
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:34 AM   #11
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It will be at least a 6.1 and they're working to try to get it down to 5.9
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The jury is out on the V6 performance still. With the SS you get huge Brembo brakes, an upgraded suspension system, a bulletproof trans with coolers, obviously the LS3, better rubber, and lots of other goodies.

In a straight line the V6 may be able to get to 6.1 but it is going to feel sluggish and heavy. There is no way around that. And it will feel like a boat through the twisties. I have a feeling the SS will even feel like a boat which is going to make the V6 really feel fat.
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In a straight line the V6 may be able to get to 6.1 but it is going to feel sluggish and heavy. There is no way around that. And it will feel like a boat through the twisties. I have a feeling the SS will even feel like a boat which is going to make the V6 really feel fat.
Allright. Just stop there for a second.

Have you driven the thing?!?! You make it sound like a Prius! Until you do test drive it, please refrain from giving out driving impressions......... Especially since ALL the magazines that reviewed the V6 said the exact OPPOSITE of what you just posted............
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Especially since ALL the magazines that reviewed the V6 said the exact OPPOSITE of what you just posted............
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Oh definitely. I know it's sorta unfair to compare a FWD turbo 4 to a RWD N/A V6 Camaro. I do also realize that RWD > FWD ultimately. Which is what I'm trying to get next.

But the Cobalt SS Turbocharged with it's 260hp DI, VVT, Turbocharged and inter-cooled engine makes 260hp & 260ft lbs of torque. It also weighs in only at 2991lbs so 260hp is going to feel plenty powerful for a car its size and I realize that.

My only concern with the Camaro is its weight. Which @ around 3740lbs with only 300hp (which is a lot don't get me wrong) it may not be enough to really move the Camaro as fast as I would like it too. I realize there will be mods out there, but in order to get any real gains, without converting to F.I. bolt-ons will only get you so far.... I guess I just have to wait for the V6 to come out before I can really make any decisions.


Even if they are the same in the 1/4 it will be a completely different ride.

Have you seen the latest comparison of small turbo cars in Road and Track? They have the Cobalt winning against the Lancer, WRX, and Speed3. What's interesting is that the Lancer had a 3700lbs test weight. I drove that car and didn't feel like it was heavy. Handled just fine. It has 237bhp and manages a 14.1 1/4 mile. How can the Camaro not get into the 13s with 63 more hp and probably way more torque off the line?

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=7103

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Interesting point. I'm sure the AWD helps a little for the initial take-off ( by the way he is not talking about the base Lancer, rather the new Ralliart Lancer ) but even so the Camaro should be able to at least match the 14.1 in the quarter mile.
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The jury is out on the V6 performance still. With the SS you get huge Brembo brakes, an upgraded suspension system, a bulletproof trans with coolers, obviously the LS3, better rubber, and lots of other goodies.

In a straight line the V6 may be able to get to 6.1 but it is going to feel sluggish and heavy. There is no way around that. And it will feel like a boat through the twisties. I have a feeling the SS will even feel like a boat which is going to make the V6 really feel fat.
motor trend called the v6 camaro the american g37, and in thier review of the g37 the main thing they liked was the handling. so you essentially need to do more research. just because the car is heavy doesnt mean that it is going to feel like a boat.
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