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Old 03-06-2012, 10:32 AM   #2601
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Can't you send the cutouts back and get some QTP or DMH instead? Then you can have your guy weld them in behind the headers. $80 is CHEAP to have that done. I'd hate to tell you what I paid to have mine put in.
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:45 AM   #2602
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FYI: I used QTP cutouts. IPS' fab guy cut them up and rewelded them to make them fit.
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Actually yes.

But I'd have to have a shop do that. Which I am trying to avoid. Looks like I may not be able to avoid it. But some fabing will be necessary even with that rout. Last thing I want is more back pressure right now.
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Here are my cutouts installed on the guy's car who bought them along with my whole exhaust.


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Then what if you do this? Will they not fit here? Could you trim the edges of the Y-pipe down to make it fit?

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Problem is the style of cut-out.

The big 'blade' part is the pita.

The red below hits the pipe just like the pic shows.

The Yellow the pipes curve too fast and so that part is not long enough. Even if I cut the 'Y' pipe a sleeve clamp won't have enough to bite to.

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1) Where are they supposed to mount as designed?
they are universal, they aren't made specifically for his car
2) Are the flanges perfectly circular - allowing you to drill new holes, if need be and twist the motor assembly 180° (letting the "big blade" fit)?
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You are correct. I like the design because they really can't leak. And there is no obstruction at all as far as a center 'axle' in the opening.


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NO go. they won't fit.

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Can't you send the cutouts back and get some QTP or DMH instead? Then you can have your guy weld them in behind the headers. $80 is CHEAP to have that done. I'd hate to tell you what I paid to have mine put in.
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:01 PM   #2603
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:14 PM   #2604
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It makes me feel so smart when Spike agrees with me!


I'll have to go back thru the timeline... you may have agreed with me from the beginning... I'll have to check the PM's I sent Randy about getting QTP's instead of Dougs
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:31 PM   #2605
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What......Randy didn't listen....... Surely you jest.....
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:33 PM   #2606
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Randy maybe you can sell them and get some DMH ones........80.00 for the install is a great price...They are not hard to wire up either........
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:45 PM   #2607
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What......Randy didn't listen....... Surely you jest.....
we talked about all types of cutouts. I recommended QTP's. He was going to get Doug's... he just wasn't aware of it.

He already had his mind up when he asked the question on here...

Doug's is a good product... just not the right fit for Randy... like Savini wheels. they look great and they are priced well... but they just don't fit right... and I'd hate to see randy break another finger using a cutout instead this time...lmao
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:50 PM   #2608
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Lol, I knew when Em had to have her custom fabricated it might be a pain....Vengeance installed the DMH ones on mine and not one single problem with clearnce or fit.....They are 399.00 though.....I tried to get him to swing it when he did his cam and tune with them....may have gotten alittle break but he couldn't swing it then..........But these things unleash the beast......
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Lol, I knew when Em had to have her custom fabricated it might be a pain....Vengeance installed the DMH ones on mine and not one single problem with clearnce or fit.....They are 399.00 though.....I tried to get him to swing it when he did his cam and tune with them....may have gotten alittle break but he couldn't swing it then..........But these things unleash the beast......
399.00 each?
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Old 03-06-2012, 01:25 PM   #2611
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Lol, I knew when Em had to have her custom fabricated it might be a pain....Vengeance installed the DMH ones on mine and not one single problem with clearnce or fit.....They are 399.00 though.....I tried to get him to swing it when he did his cam and tune with them....may have gotten alittle break but he couldn't swing it then..........But these things unleash the beast......
The reason IPS had to tweak mine is because, like PQ, I have an automatic and a lowered car. I wanted the cutouts right behind the headers which puts them right next to the transmission. The automatic transmission is larger than the manual transmission making it a bit tight to get the cutouts tucked up there high enough to not hang too far below the frame of the car.

The QTP cutouts fit fine in a lowered car with an M6 transmission without any adjustments. The auto tranny presents more a fitment issue. It wasn't that big of a deal to make the QTP cutouts fit, but they did have to be adjusted a bit so they wouldn't hang too low below the car. The guys at IPS were being perfectionists.

I honestly don't think the DMH low profile cutouts would necessarily be any different. (Unless perhaps they were mounted further back on the car, in which case you wouldn't get the sound or the power as you do when they're right behind the headers).
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399.00 each?
No goofy for the set....

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The reason IPS had to tweak mine is because, like PQ, I have an automatic and a lowered car. I wanted the cutouts right behind the headers which puts them right next to the transmission. The automatic transmission is larger than the manual transmission making it a bit tight to get the cutouts tucked up there high enough to not hang too far below the frame of the car.

The QTP cutouts fit fine in a lowered car with an M6 transmission without any adjustments. The auto tranny presents more a fitment issue. It wasn't that big of a deal to make the QTP cutouts fit, but they did have to be adjusted a bit so they wouldn't hang too low below the car. The guys at IPS were being perfectionists.

I honestly don't think the DMH low profile cutouts would necessarily be any different. (Unless perhaps they were mounted further back on the car, in which case you wouldn't get the sound or the power as you do when they're right behind the headers).
IDK here is a pic of mine...they are about 4 to 6 inches long. They look longer but the mounting base is what attached them to the exhaust...the other stuff bolts to that welded flange...Their is plenty of room on each side of mine...but like I said the welded flange is probably 4 to 6 inches.
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No goofy for the set....



IDK here is a pic of mine...they are about 4 to 6 inches long.
nice... except I don't want randy anywhere near a welder...lol
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Well at least he could carterized any wounds with a welder....I know that is mispelled...LOL
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IDK here is a pic of mine...they are about 4 to 6 inches long. They look longer but the mounting base is what attached them to the exhaust...the other stuff bolts to that welded flange...Their is plenty of room on each side of mine...but like I said the welded flange is probably 4 to 6 inches.
Yours are further back than mine. Also, to do mine like that, would not have worked because my exhaust didn't have quite as much bend as yours does at that location. I asked IPS about putting them there and they said it wouldn't work on my Borla exhaust.

The closer to the headers, the louder they are and you get better air flow. I picked up 10 rwhp with them open and the car was monster-truck loud with them open. It was awesome.
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Yeah I have the stock exhaust from the cats back...mine is an axle back version so that may also affect that.....If you see it in person it really look like there is alot fo room.
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Yeah I have the stock exhaust from the cats back...mine is an axle back version so that may also affect that.....If you see it in person it really look like there is alot fo room.
With the stock exhaust, those low profile DMH and QTP cutouts work fine. Not so on most after-market exhausts. I went through all of this when I had mine put on. With the after-market exhaust and auto tranny, it's a bit trickier.
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With the stock exhaust, those low profile DMH and QTP cutouts work fine. Not so on most after-market exhausts. I went through all of this when I had mine put on. With the after-market exhaust and auto tranny, it's a bit trickier.
Did you have Borla's S type exhaust? That's what I have and Jason (IROC) is going to install my DMH for me this summer.
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Well at least he could carterized any wounds with a welder....I know that is mispelled...LOL
LMAO...

Looks like the Alabama backweeds << [sic] spelling to me....

Most people would spell it cauterized but we get it...
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Did you have Borla's S type exhaust? That's what I have and Jason (IROC) is going to install my DMH for me this summer.
I had a Borla Touring.

However, Jason has an after-market exhaust (he has Flowmaster I believe). I'm not 100% sure, but I think he mounted his DMH cutouts further back - just in front of the mufflers.
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I had a Borla Touring.

However, Jason has an after-market exhaust (he has Flowmaster I believe). I'm not 100% sure, but I think he mounted his DMH cutouts further back - just in front of the mufflers.
Nope, mine are up front. Jamie Mac's are just before the mufflers.



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Nope, mine are up front. Jamie Mac's are just before the mufflers.



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Cool. Is your exhaust and axle back or cat back?

I just wondered if you installed it on the bend in the stock exhaust. Some cutouts don't fit well on after-market cat back exhaust because they don't bed as much there.
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Both his and mine are catback
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