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Old 01-10-2013, 12:13 PM   #4476
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PQ,

Just wanted to let you know that the itsx and new livelink/whatever sct software worked perfectly. Sent off datalog to Ted, immediately replied, "you've got a Vacuum leak."

Narrowed down the leak to 2 possibilities, just running tests to confirm. (Air bypass actuator or the evap purge line)

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I had nailed mine down to both of those at one point.

The EVAP line had a kink at one point and I thought for sure it was causing a problem. But no dice.

I sprayed propane and starter fluid all around my actuator. I suppose it could still be but I don't have access to a smoke machine. And I am kinda done with shops. Nobody really cares unless you are standing over them. And time is money to them. Which is fine but when there is a problem like I have (and you too obviously) then we are just screwed unless we can find it ourselves.

I've logged mine and had a few guys look at it but only so much they can see from a log.

Let me know what you discover.

Yesterday my cat died and would not start for a few cycles. Service Stabilitrac light came on then went off.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:25 PM   #4477
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I'm 90% sure it's the bypass and here is why:

I was pulling it off 2 nights ago to test the diaphragm for a leak, following whipple's tech advise. Got interrupted and just bolted it back on without adjusting it.

Next day drive to work, and home, no check engine light, boost was proper @ 8.5-9, instead of 10.5, boost gauge was showing full spectrum of boost, not "bam, 5lbs an rising", car had much more power.

Stopped las night at my shop to adjust it the actuator according to the directions, went for a rainy drive, check engine light "lean bank 1 and 2", same as always.

Drove to work this am, no rain. Boost is not coming on smoothly, it's hittin hard, all at once. (Door slamming shut)

If that bypass is not opening/closing properly, it will bleed off boost (vacuum also), and will cause havoc with the fuel trim.

I am going to call whipple again to see about adjusting it again, or just put I back where I left it yesterday. Best it had ever run.
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:36 PM   #4478
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I'm 90% sure it's the bypass and here is why:

I was pulling it off 2 nights ago to test the diaphragm for a leak, following whipple's tech advise. Got interrupted and just bolted it back on without adjusting it.

Next day drive to work, and home, no check engine light, boost was proper @ 8.5-9, instead of 10.5, boost gauge was showing full spectrum of boost, not "bam, 5lbs an rising", car had much more power.

Stopped las night at my shop to adjust it the actuator according to the directions, went for a rainy drive, check engine light "lean bank 1 and 2", same as always.

Drove to work this am, no rain. Boost is not coming on smoothly, it's hittin hard, all at once. (Door slamming shut)

If that bypass is not opening/closing properly, it will bleed off boost (vacuum also), and will cause havoc with the fuel trim.

I am going to call whipple again to see about adjusting it again, or just put I back where I left it yesterday. Best it had ever run.
Interesting.

I did notice a few times my actuator will stick open. But I don't see how that would be causing it to die when it's supposed to be full open at idle and low speeds. No boost being produced.

Mine produces boost at a decent enough hit.

I wish I had a smoke machine to use.
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:40 PM   #4479
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I wonder if you can rent one from an auto parts store.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:04 PM   #4480
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I wonder if you can rent one from an auto parts store.
I tried everything. Every rental place doesn't have one.

Auto parts stores, at least down here, don't have them for rent.

The only time I had one on the car was when I went to Firestone. And I had to show them how to use it.

NOBODY there knew how.

Funny part was when they came in the lobby and told me they found the leak and it was a huge leak.....................




wait for it............





wait for it...........



no shit...




The smoke was coming out the air filter in the end of my fastlane intake.

I had to show them how to block off the throttle body to hold air in.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:47 PM   #4481
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I tried everything. Every rental place doesn't have one.

Auto parts stores, at least down here, don't have them for rent.

The only time I had one on the car was when I went to Firestone. And I had to show them how to use it.

NOBODY there knew how.

Funny part was when they came in the lobby and told me they found the leak and it was a huge leak.....................




wait for it............





wait for it...........



no shit...




The smoke was coming out the air filter in the end of my fastlane intake.

I had to show them how to block off the throttle body to hold air in.
That's your problem! Your intake is too free flowing!
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:36 PM   #4482
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Let me ask my project manager. He has a smoke thing for testing half-face hepa filters, for working with mold and other airborne nasty crap.

I'll find out where he got it and how much.

Only problem is the smoke burns the shit out of you eyes/ lungs. Lol
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:33 PM   #4483
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I don't know if this will help or not, but I found a thread about a DIY smoker. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=31963
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:04 PM   #4484
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That's your problem! Your intake is too free flowing!


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Let me ask my project manager. He has a smoke thing for testing half-face hepa filters, for working with mold and other airborne nasty crap.

I'll find out where he got it and how much.

Only problem is the smoke burns the shit out of you eyes/ lungs. Lol
Ya, don't use it on your body. lol

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I don't know if this will help or not, but I found a thread about a DIY smoker. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=31963
Only way I found was this.

Actually found two small leaks as shown in the vid. But not the problem I was looking for.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:14 PM   #4485
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Been a while since I've been in here.....what have you done with the place?

Randy......did you break something again? tsk-tsk....
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:51 PM   #4486
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Been a while since I've been in here.....what have you done with the place?

Randy......did you break something again? tsk-tsk....
Never was fixed.

This thing has been since the blower was put on. Aug.
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My adjustment seems to have worked. Gonna datalog tomorrow to confirm.

No light, power comes on smooth and in large amounts! All readings seem in line.

See what happens when i drive tomorrow. And hear back from Ted.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:08 PM   #4488
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and in other news, i ain't been here 2 days & we've already got a blizzard starting what did i get us into?!
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Damn Randy,


I sure hope you get this problem resolved once and for all somehow...
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:16 PM   #4490
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My adjustment seems to have worked. Gonna datalog tomorrow to confirm.

No light, power comes on smooth and in large amounts! All readings seem in line.

See what happens when i drive tomorrow. And hear back from Ted.


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Damn Randy,


I sure hope you get this problem resolved once and for all somehow...
I'll get it. But I believe I will wait for the fest and let Mike Norris take care of it.
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why not let Greg Norris do it?!




oh wait... he don't exist!
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why not let Greg Norris do it?!




oh wait... he don't exist!
Actually he looked at it.
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You might let Chuck Norris kick it.....
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No luck, same leak, wherever it is.

I've got a genius idea for my own smoke test machine. I'll post some a parts list/DIY thread. Should be effective and cheap.
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No luck, same leak, wherever it is.

I've got a genius idea for my own smoke test machine. I'll post some a parts list/DIY thread. Should be effective and cheap.
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I got some cigarettes and a vacumn cleaner...
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I got some cigarettes and a vacumn cleaner...
We don't wanna know what you do with your "alone" time out on the rig.....
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We don't wanna know what you do with your "alone" time out on the rig.....
There is no such thing as alone time on an oil rig...
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I got some cigarettes and a vacumn cleaner...
I tried to use cigarette smoke to find it before. lol
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I tried to use cigarette smoke to find it before. lol
Do you know any local firefighters.

We had a smoke generator (vegetable oil) when I was in the fire service that produced a huge amount of smoke... Run it through a small hose and there you go...
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