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Old 03-21-2011, 01:59 PM   #1151
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I wonder if anyone else has had this problem......???
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:00 PM   #1152
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Yeah what do they usually say, "If I knew then what I knew now" The good thing about it is that you noticed it before it was under load and can easily be fixed without tearing up a whole bunch of other things.

It seems like the suspension is a weak link on these cars, but then after that is fixed the nexy weak link will appear, oh goody.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:01 PM   #1153
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OK I really don't race mine and I only have 463 to the wheels but I did notice one picture where it looked like the top had a crack in it and not just elongated. I did notify the shop who installed my suspension parts so that they could be on the look out for such things as well.

I wonder if you could add another piece to the stock piece in essence making it twice as thick if that would help strengthen this area.
Looks like the top is split by design for whatever reason.

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Looks like the top is split by design for whatever reason.


or you have cracked that one as well and it just hasnt pulled thru yet.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:09 PM   #1155
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or you have cracked that one as well and it just hasnt pulled thru yet.
Damn. I hope not.

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Old 03-22-2011, 06:49 AM   #1156
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I don't see any benefit of having a "stress relief" there since it would be easier to change the end link than to cut and weld that piece if it broke loose but then again I ain't no engineer.

You wouldn't think there would be that much stress on that part but I guess there really is. It will be interesting to see if others with FI have a similar issue on their cars, especially if they have tracked it a few times since that puts extreme amounts of stress on it.

I was real interested in Emma's build to see all the suspension parts she is putting on her rear end sub frame bushings etc.... I would like to see if she is going to have an issue in this area.
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Old 03-22-2011, 07:56 AM   #1157
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Pics from my phone this morning, show the wheels on wrong, and the sraping. The scraping goes all the way around perfectly. Tires are directional so they have to be dismounted and remounted. FOR ABOUT THE 7TH TIME IN A YEAR.

They spun that piece that holds the wheel secure on the machine right up against your finsh without the cone! Hell yeah you can prove they did that!

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That scratch looks like the shop did something when they went to balance them.. maybe the idiot forgot the cone. I would make the shop replace it.
This! Sorry to back up a couple pages, but that just sucks.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:30 AM   #1158
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I don't see any benefit of having a "stress relief" there since it would be easier to change the end link than to cut and weld that piece if it broke loose but then again I ain't no engineer.

You wouldn't think there would be that much stress on that part but I guess there really is. It will be interesting to see if others with FI have a similar issue on their cars, especially if they have tracked it a few times since that puts extreme amounts of stress on it.

I was real interested in Emma's build to see all the suspension parts she is putting on her rear end sub frame bushings etc.... I would like to see if she is going to have an issue in this area.


I put on the Pfadt adjustable end links when my sways and springs went on. I think the adjustable end links may allow for the more compressed stance of the car with lowering springs and not cause that same issue. (?)

I talked to IPS Brandon about it yesterday and he saw no evidence of my control arms having that problem. Brandon did say that sometimes the control arms can twist a bit so, I asked them to add the Pfadt "control arm stiffeners" to help with that. They're inexpensive to put on.
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:17 AM   #1159
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I don't see any benefit of having a "stress relief" there since it would be easier to change the end link than to cut and weld that piece if it broke loose but then again I ain't no engineer.

You wouldn't think there would be that much stress on that part but I guess there really is. It will be interesting to see if others with FI have a similar issue on their cars, especially if they have tracked it a few times since that puts extreme amounts of stress on it.

I was real interested in Emma's build to see all the suspension parts she is putting on her rear end sub frame bushings etc.... I would like to see if she is going to have an issue in this area.
I just ordered the subframe inserts and some end links and Rear Trailing ArmToe Link bushings.

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They spun that piece that holds the wheel secure on the machine right up against your finsh without the cone! Hell yeah you can prove they did that!
I told the manager that I'm not gonna worry about it but I wanted to let him know before someone less passive and patient and understanding than me comes in and rightfully reams their asses. LOL

Like DrJekyl ...............

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I put on the Pfadt adjustable end links when my sways and springs went on. I think the adjustable end links may allow for the more compressed stance of the car with lowering springs and not cause that same issue. (?)

I talked to IPS Brandon about it yesterday and he saw no evidence of my control arms having that problem. Brandon did say that sometimes the control arms can twist a bit, so, I asked them to add the Pfadt "control arm stiffeners" to help with that. They're inexpensive to put on.
OMG............ it's a tragedy that your car will not be at the fest. Truly one that people would want to see.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:28 AM   #1160
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The sad part is that you had to even say anything to them. I have noticed lately not in just this business but in alot that if you just take it at face value you will lose.

I went to the Dr. Yetsreday and when I was leaving they said I had a balance of 643.00. I was like what are you talking about I have only been here once, eveidentially some glitch in their system and 45 minutes later they finally let me leave without paying the 643.00 for an office consult and x-rays.

But it does go back to the bigger point that unfortunately that if you don't speak up today you will get walked all over. The inmates where I work have a saying " If you play Pu**y you will get F**ked" and I am starting to belive it more everyday.

Back to our regularly scheduled programing.

Randy I remember asking you awhile ago why your car sat up a little in the back more than mine, do you think it might be because you had the stock end links?

I will have to check out these mounting pads on mine this weekend to see if mine are tweaked any, looks like the next time I go to Vengeance they will be adding this stuff to mine if I see any problems.

My question is do you guy/gals think that this is related to added HP or Torgue. Randy's and my numbers are Similar but we get there totally different. Randy has more instant torque than me because of FI mine are more on the upper end from what I understand.

Thoughts?
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I think the problem has been determined to be PQ having loose nuts (on his end links).
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:36 AM   #1162
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OMG............ it's a tragedy that your car will not be at the fest. Truly one that people would want to see.
Huh... Really...:(
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:39 AM   #1163
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Randy I remember asking you awhile ago why your car sat up a little in the back more than mine, do you think it might be because you had the stock end links?
I'd have to say no and yes to that.

Yes, only because of Petes explanation of using the same nut and torquing. Had I used aftermarket ones, I'd have had a much fuller fit, and a new nut. May have made a difference. But that's the only reason.

No, because when I found the one end link without the nut a while ago (it was the top end that hooks to the sway bar not the control arm) I was able to put it back on without jacking the car up. So there was no pressure on it at all.

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Huh... Really...:(
Yup. Not far enough removed from her operation. So the comfort a an RV would be better. If I recall.
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I doubt I'll be able to make it to the fest this year. :(

I for sure won't be bringing my Camaro. I had surgery less than a week ago and it's a 6 to 8 week recovery. I am in a sling and one-armed until then.

Maybe the fest will be closer to Ohio next year and it'll be easier for me to make the drive in my Camaro.
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OK just trying to throw idears out there as to " Why" this may have happened.
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I doubt I'll be able to make it to the fest this year. :(

I for sure won't be bringing my Camaro. I had surgery less than a week ago and it's a 6 to 8 week recovery. I am in a sling and one-armed until then.

Maybe the fest will be closer to Ohio next year and it'll be easier for me to make the drive in my Camaro.
No sweat. We can wait to see Smau................ er................. I mean you... next year.
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OOOOOOOOkkkkkkkkkkkkk.............................

So I gave BeckyD@RogersChevrolet a call............

After careful consideration, and a lot of pondering (and Bonnie ass kissing) I have been given the green light AND have ordered coilovers from PEDDERS........




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OOOOOOOOkkkkkkkkkkkkk.............................

So I gave BeckyD@RogersChevrolet a call............

After careful consideration, and a lot of pondering (and Bonnie ass kissing) I have been given the green light AND have ordered coilovers from PEDDERS........




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OOOOOOOOkkkkkkkkkkkkk.............................

So I gave BeckyD@RogersChevrolet a call............

After careful consideration, and a lot of pondering (and Bonnie ass kissing) I have been given the green light AND have ordered coilovers from PEDDERS........




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After careful consideration, and a lot of pondering (and Bonnie ass kissing) I have been given the green light AND have ordered coilovers from PEDDERS........




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