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Old 04-01-2011, 02:03 PM   #1301
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I know Pfadt has their specs on their site, so I would assume Pedders does as well. Not a big deal but the factory spec might not work and probably would cause your tires to wear unevenly.
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Old 04-03-2011, 05:04 PM   #1302
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:03 PM   #1303
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Nice suspension. You will be ready to rock-n-roll at the Fest.
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:05 PM   #1304
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In the top 2 pics... is that bracket failing on the control arm? Looks bent.

Lower pics look fine.

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Old 04-03-2011, 08:15 PM   #1305
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In the top 2 pics... is that bracket failing on the control arm? Looks bent.

Lower pics look fine.

The Pedders stuff looks good!
THe uppers are the old control arm. I shot some video I'll put on here and I put some bigger washers on each side. Not gonna help though. It's definitley failing. It's bent for sure. I got some pics with the links off. Post them in a bit. I'm gonna put it all back together.
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:17 PM   #1306
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Spohn makes control arms. I may get those if Pfadt or Pedders doesn't make them soon. I think BMR is supposed to have theirs available soon as well.
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:36 PM   #1307
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Damn. May have been there and thrown away not realizing.

I'll ask Pete or go to Pedders site.

There's a sticky in the suspension section.

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Old 04-03-2011, 09:10 PM   #1308
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There's a sticky in the suspension section.

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Have you talked to them?
Not yet, but I will.

I was gonna get it aligned tomorrow but now I gotta wait.
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Old 04-03-2011, 09:34 PM   #1309
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Ask body shops who they use for frame damage and alignment, one name will rise to the surface... That's who you want.

alignmennt thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71994
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:00 AM   #1310
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Ask body shops who they use for frame damage and alignment, one name will rise to the surface... That's who you want.

alignmennt thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71994
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:10 AM   #1312
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Spohn makes control arms. I may get those if Pfadt or Pedders doesn't make them soon. I think BMR is supposed to have theirs available soon as well.

I have the SPohn arms - they are really nice and beefy.. boxed in and made out of 3/16" thick steel. Well worth the money.
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:00 AM   #1313
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I have the SPohn arms - they are really nice and beefy.. boxed in and made out of 3/16" thick steel. Well worth the money.
Did you get the Pro-drag or Pro-touring lower control arms?
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:40 AM   #1314
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Did you get the Pro-drag or Pro-touring lower control arms?
I went with the Pro touring with Delrin bushings.

Here is a picture of my rear suspension.

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Old 04-04-2011, 09:19 AM   #1315
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I notice your Spohn control arms do not have the dual mounting holes for the shocks. On Sphon's web site, they indicate that the Pro-Touring control arms have 2 holes whereas the Pro-Drag control arms do not.

Even though IPS (they have my car right now) says that my stock control arms looked fine, I'm considering going with the Spohn arms based on PQ's experience.
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:27 AM   #1316
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I keep getting mixed up as to which arms are which.. DE..you are right.

I guess the ones I have are the drag race ones - I didn't need the other adjustment hole, as I lowered the car with the coilover's.

They are a high quality part. I really like them! All of the rear Spohn arms are 1st rate pieces.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:01 PM   #1317
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I keep getting mixed up as to which arms are which.. DE..you are right.

I guess the ones I have are the drag race ones - I didn't need the other adjustment hole, as I lowered the car with the coilover's.

They are a high quality part. I really like them! All of the rear Spohn arms are 1st rate pieces.

Hey, where is the damn exhaust ? Dontcha know it is ILL-Legal to run without 'dem things.. Put them back on there...

P.S. I used Spohn Del-Sphere components on the rear of the SST. Agree that they are 1st rate pieces.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:05 PM   #1318
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Damn man, it always seems like something, huh? Could the stock piece be failing due to the increased stiffness of the sway bar?
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:22 PM   #1319
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I see. Starting with those SuperCar canisters..... lol

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Could the stock piece be failing due to the increased stiffness of the sway bar?
Shouldn't. I don't drive any more sideways than anyone else, and nobody else has had this happen.

Just me and 1 other member so far. Plus I think 3 cases a Pfadt vendor said they had.

I'm at a total loss. I'm not sure what is going on. BOTH have failed now. And the second one AFTER I replaced the first one. I've looked the whole system over and it's installed perfectly. Not sure how to proceed. Obviously I gotta replace this arm too. Go from there I guess. The sway bar rotates like it's supposed to. It's not twisted.

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Old 04-04-2011, 01:28 PM   #1320
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How long does it take to install a control arm? Is it difficult? I may just buy a set from Spohn and put them in myself if it's not too hard to do.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:48 PM   #1321
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Randy follow me here for a minute. Each car is different. When I talked about FI with Vengeance they explained to me that FI gave you immediate power, more low end HP, Torque etc and it was quicker because it was more immediate versus a cam that would kinda roll into it over a power band so to speak.

Although we have similar numbers yours is achieved totally different than mine and you put more immediate stress on your suuspension than mine. Since we pretty much have the same car, well until the coil overs do you think that the added increase of immediate torque has anything to do with it since torque is what breaks things? Just throwing out ideas.
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How long does it take to install a control arm? Is it difficult? I may just buy a set from Spohn and put them in myself if it's not too hard to do.
I can do it in 20 to 30 minutes now.

But I'd plan on a couple hours if you've never gotten into it before. Mostly because you and me think similarly as far as gathering info and being curious. What takes me longer when I do something I've never done before is getting in there and seeing WHY they did it that way and learning as much as I can out of the project AND the surrounding parts of the project.

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Randy follow me here for a minute. Each car is different. When I talked about FI with Vengeance they explained to me that FI gave you immediate power, more low end HP, Torque etc and it was quicker because it was more immediate versus a cam that would kinda roll into it over a power band so to speak.

Although we have similar numbers yours is achieved totally different than mine and you put more immediate stress on your suuspension than mine. Since we pretty much have the same car, well until the coil overs do you think that the added increase of immediate torque has anything to do with it since torque is what breaks things? Just throwing out ideas.
I suppose it could be a factor. My power is certainly instantaneous. Wheel hop could have played a roll. I think Chris is dead on at that.

But, I think Pete is also on to something. If my bolts had gotten loose, they could have weakend the metal being allowed to move as the were bound.

I just don't know.
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I can do it in 20 to 30 minutes now.

But I'd plan on a couple hours if you've never gotten into it before. Mostly because you and me think similarly as far as gathering info and being curious. What takes me longer when I do something I've never done before is getting in there and seeing WHY they did it that way and learning as much as I can out of the project AND the surrounding parts of the project.

Get a good breaker bar.....

I suppose it could be a factor. My power is certainly instantaneous. Wheel hop could have played a roll. I think Chris is dead on at that.

But, I think Pete is also on to something. If my bolts had gotten loose, they could have weakend the metal being allowed to move as the were bound.

I just don't know.
OK but the second arm you installed would not have had that problem of being loose correct?
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OK but the second arm you installed would not have had that problem of being loose correct?
The one that's failing now is the second of the original two.

I replaced the first one with a new arm that is holding just fine.
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OK so now you just need to replace the second original, I understand now. I sure hope that works for you Big Dog.
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