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Old 05-20-2011, 08:45 PM   #1401
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Ok. The three of you are instigators. . . . .

I got a credit card, and I'm not afraid to use it.
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:47 PM   #1402
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He just thinks he is going in for a tune at 8:00 am OK and Bonnie will be driving up later

I can hear it now.

Hey Honey...... Uh.... Uh.... John and Norm......Uh Uh... They took me to lunch....... and when I got back......Uh Uh Uh they kinda, sorta , well , I really don't know what haaaaaaaaaapppppppppeennnnedddddd, but They toook out theeeee skiiiiipppppp, buttttt now IIII haveeee a Lope



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Old 05-20-2011, 08:57 PM   #1403
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Heres my story
Might work. But now I"m gonna send her this link. hahaha
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:59 PM   #1404
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:59 PM   #1405
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Old 05-20-2011, 09:04 PM   #1406
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It's easier to beg forgiveness than to ask for permission...

Bonnie: don't beat me up for that.
I have said that a million times. Learned it in the military. USED it all my adult life.

Carfully of course.
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Old 05-21-2011, 01:03 AM   #1407
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It's easier to beg forgiveness than to ask for permission...

Bonnie: don't beat me up for that.
WRONG!!!

It's better and wiser to ask for forgiveness than for permission.

I won't tempt you with a video of mine at idle since I've already shared the other with you. For that I am sorry.
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Old 05-21-2011, 08:40 AM   #1408
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Yeah... I'm sorry too...



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Old 05-21-2011, 10:23 AM   #1409
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WRONG!!!

It's better and wiser to ask for forgiveness than for permission.

I won't tempt you with a video of mine at idle since I've already shared the other with you. For that I am sorry.
Well, I can't even begin to touch what you are doing. lol

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OMFG,,,,,,, that avatar is killing me. We are laughing our asses off.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:59 AM   #1411
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I have said that a million times. Learned it in the military. USED it all my adult life.

Carfully of course.
Would you mind explaining the word Carfully... or was that a Freudian slip...
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:03 AM   #1412
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How's the weather out there on the rig?

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Old 05-23-2011, 10:17 AM   #1413
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How's the weather out there on the rig?

Well, after "carfully" considering it, it's much improved... We just had crew change, the guys here when I arrived are gone now, and I'm at less then two weeks on the rig as of last night...this morning...I have to spend an extra day in country up in Macae getting my annual physical, and my work visa extension, but I should be home by Wednesday or Thursday in two weeks...
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Old 05-24-2011, 01:19 AM   #1414
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Would you mind explaining the word Carfully... or was that a Freudian slip...
I noticed it and meant to put partial pun intended. Lol
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:56 PM   #1415
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Ok.

So I'm saddled with a choice here.

You've seen my video (and if not, I put it below) and so the lifter problem is actually perfect timing. The car was going to Vengeance anyway.

I have to decide wether or not to do just the lifters or lifters and cam.

I'm not really fond of the price (it's a fair price i guess, just wasn't prepared) but I wonder how much difference it would be. If I did a just lifters this week and a cam next week, I wonder if there would be any difference in doing them both at the same time?

The surge/miss problem still has to be ironed out anyway. I'm guessing MAF sensor. But that is just a guess. Not sure it would matter at idle.

So, I get a cam. And some DTs and show up at SGMP for Pony wars with some DRs.....

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Old 06-15-2011, 07:26 AM   #1416
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That sux :(

You pulled the compressor and changed intake gaskets and still no joy on the surge?
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:14 AM   #1417
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IMO- If the lifters are bad and from what I have heard about the VVT, AFM lifters they are junk it would come down to a financial decision. By that I mean the cost benefit of have your car fixed once and for all.

If they do the lifters and not the cam then you will be paying twice for some things like fluids, plugs and other shop items. Plus you will have the piece of mind of knowing it is FIXED.

I know you are wanting to do the cam yourself and I think you could do it, but with that you will have to do the valvetrain as well. New springs, Trunion up grade etc..... and I may be wrong but unless you have a special tool to take the springs off the valves that are closest to the firewall it becomes a bear to get them off since there is no room. Of course after the cam you will need a re-tune, which I know they will take care of but the pain of having to have it re-done and waiting etc....

I guess what I am really trying to say is don't be penny wise and pound foolish. They will have your car trying to figure out the surge problem anyway, if the lifters are bad and they have to go in and fix them the logical thing is to do the cam at the same time. While I understand Money is a factor, I think it would be wise to have it all done at once.

Once they fix your car, have gone throught it front to rear and make sure it is running right I really don't think you will have any issues.

I took my car to them and it would not hardly stay running, you know why, and they Fixed it, I had a slight issue later on and Ron picked up my car, found the problem and Fixed it for the final time. I only had to pay the 42.00 for the rocker arm and rocker tray, even though I offered to pay for the diagnosing Ron refused stating it should have been caught the first time.

I know I sing the praises of Vengeance alot on here, BUT they truly have taking great care of me and my car and ALWAYS make things right no matter what, on my car.

Personally I just hope it is some stupid little thing that fixes both problems. I guess I am always nervous about catastrophic failure especially since I have modded mine and realize that this is way over my head. BUT oh how it runs and sounds when they got it fixed.

Cut outs are awesome as you have heard mine in person, but that can always be done later. The problem both you and I have is that no one locally can take care of our cars or really has a clue about modding them and forces us to go long distances to have work done on them.

I know you will make the right decision about the cam etc.... just wanted to throw my .02 in there.

When are they picking it up?
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:19 AM   #1418
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:28 AM   #1419
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Vengeance Racing did an LS3 conversion and 3-bolt mild blower cam for me because it is a daily driver 365 days a year.

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If you choose to go with just new lifters, go ahead and replace the pushrods and get some dual springs, for a nice matching set while the heads are off. The VVT cam is not a bad cam.

Definitely replace the head gaskets, lifter trays and head bolts.
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Old 06-15-2011, 11:17 AM   #1420
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That sux :(

You pulled the compressor and changed intake gaskets and still no joy on the surge?
Yup, pulled the blower for a third time. I had blocked all vacuum lines off AT the blower, so it only left the gaskets or the blower it's self as points of leakage. Still no change. Plus, I sprayed the blower down on the pressure test AND the smoke test revealed nothing. But I'm still not sure it's not header leak?

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IMO- If the lifters are bad and from what I have heard about the VVT, AFM lifters they are junk it would come down to a financial decision. By that I mean the cost benefit of have your car fixed once and for all.

If they do the lifters and not the cam then you will be paying twice for some things like fluids, plugs and other shop items. Plus you will have the piece of mind of knowing it is FIXED.

I know you are wanting to do the cam yourself and I think you could do it, but with that you will have to do the valvetrain as well. New springs, Trunion up grade etc..... and I may be wrong but unless you have a special tool to take the springs off the valves that are closest to the firewall it becomes a bear to get them off since there is no room. Of course after the cam you will need a re-tune, which I know they will take care of but the pain of having to have it re-done and waiting etc....

I guess what I am really trying to say is don't be penny wise and pound foolish. They will have your car trying to figure out the surge problem anyway, if the lifters are bad and they have to go in and fix them the logical thing is to do the cam at the same time. While I understand Money is a factor, I think it would be wise to have it all done at once.

Once they fix your car, have gone throught it front to rear and make sure it is running right I really don't think you will have any issues.

I took my car to them and it would not hardly stay running, you know why, and they Fixed it, I had a slight issue later on and Ron picked up my car, found the problem and Fixed it for the final time. I only had to pay the 42.00 for the rocker arm and rocker tray, even though I offered to pay for the diagnosing Ron refused stating it should have been caught the first time.

I know I sing the praises of Vengeance alot on here, BUT they truly have taking great care of me and my car and ALWAYS make things right no matter what, on my car.

Personally I just hope it is some stupid little thing that fixes both problems. I guess I am always nervous about catastrophic failure especially since I have modded mine and realize that this is way over my head. BUT oh how it runs and sounds when they got it fixed.

Cut outs are awesome as you have heard mine in person, but that can always be done later. The problem both you and I have is that no one locally can take care of our cars or really has a clue about modding them and forces us to go long distances to have work done on them.

I know you will make the right decision about the cam etc.... just wanted to throw my .02 in there.

When are they picking it up?
I agree with all of this. I should have just left it then. BUT, then I'd still have to deal with the new problem of the lifter tic. There was NONE until after Atlanta.

Ron PMed me and said he'd let me know today or tomorrow. Something tells me I'm going to be without my car for a while. They stay pretty busy up there.

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Vengeance Racing did an LS3 conversion and 3-bolt mild blower cam for me because it is a daily driver 365 days a year.

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Post Mods: 525 RWHP/490 RWTQ

If you choose to go with just new lifters, go ahead and replace the pushrods and get some dual springs, for a nice matching set while the heads are off. The VVT cam is not a bad cam.

Definitely replace the head gaskets, lifter trays and head bolts.
They would do the whole thing I believe. I still have to talk to Ron.
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I agree with all of this. I should have just left it then. BUT, then I'd still have to deal with the new problem of the lifter tic. There was NONE until after Atlanta.

Ron PMed me and said he'd let me know today or tomorrow. Something tells me I'm going to be without my car for a while. They stay pretty busy up there.
No worries my friend, I am sure it will all be taken care of. I figure a week or two and they should have you fixed up depending on what is wrong with it, but that is simply a guess.

The positive side of it is that when you get it back it will be 100% A OK, Ron will make sure of that, I feel confident in saying.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:18 PM   #1423
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No worries my friend, I am sure it will all be taken care of. I figure a week or two and they should have you fixed up depending on what is wrong with it, but that is simply a guess.

The positive side of it is that when you get it back it will be 100% A OK, Ron will make sure of that, I feel confident in saying.
Ok. So what kind of waranty will I have with them? Any? Just labor?

Are your cut-outs done?
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Don't know what you and Chris yakked about, but loose header can cause a ticking sound... Don't know about it causing a surge. You're certain the tic is lifter?
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:14 PM   #1425
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Don't know what you and Chris yakked about, but loose header can cause a ticking sound... Don't know about it causing a surge. You're certain the tic is lifter?
Not certain. My neighbor actually said header leak this morning.
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