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Old 03-20-2011, 03:51 PM   #1140
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Is this where it snapped?
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:35 PM   #1141
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its not the arms I was trying to get at. the mounting point where they ripped thru the stock metal thats going to be troublesome. unless you can talk to GM and have them pull one of those pieces off the line and mail to you to have it replaced.
I can just buy the whole control arm.

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Nice looking set up. I have a few questions because I am looking to upgrade to 22's but want as much meat on them as possible.

Did you have any issues with rubbing?
Did you have to do any mods to get the 315's to fit?
What size are your front tires?
In retrospect, could you have gone with a larger tires (more meat) if so which ones?

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I wouldn't call it an 'Upgrade' per se' but more of a cosmetic mod. The performance loss is a killer.

But, no I didn't have to mod anything. Tire size on the front is 265/30 rear is 315/25 and if you want no fitment ussues, you need to buy them custom made for your car or at least from someone knowlegable of the 5th Gen Camaro. NineBall here on the forums can help you. No. You don't want more meat on 22s. Computer issue, possible fitment issue, and even more wieght. If you're worried about more meat, get 20s. Though 22s look fantastic on the Camaro, the performance loss is significant. Make up your mind what's important. Because you can't have it both ways.

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Is this where it snapped?
Right on top of the bolt. The sheet metal broke and tore through to the top edge.

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Old 03-21-2011, 08:24 AM   #1142
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Do you think this broke because of the increased torque? Or have you been driving it hard cornering etc..... Definitely something we will all have to take a look at if we have increase power on our cars.
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:42 PM   #1143
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yeah, I got confused as to what the picture was when I first looked at it. At first I thought it was a structural mount on the frame, not on the control arm.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:10 PM   #1144
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Do you think this broke because of the increased torque? Or have you been driving it hard cornering etc..... Definitely something we will all have to take a look at if we have increase power on our cars.

PQ mentioned in one of his previous posts that he lost the nut that bolts the endlink to the control arm. The hole probably got elongated from the nut being missing, which allowed the endlink to continue moving in there.. till something gave way. (That's My guess as to why)

It is something that should be checked quite often on these cars, especially if you do any kind of performance driving. Not just the endlink nuts, but everything in the suspension.

I made a habit of checking everything continually, as I race mine quite often. If I'm not racing, I am adjusting/tweaking/upgrading something underneath.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:15 PM   #1145
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:28 PM   #1146
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PQ mentioned in one of his previous posts that he lost the nut that bolts the endlink to the control arm. The hole probably got elongated from the nut being missing, which allowed the endlink to continue moving in there.. till something gave way. (That's My guess as to why)

It is something that should be checked quite often on these cars, especially if you do any kind of performance driving. Not just the endlink nuts, but everything in the suspension.

I made a habit of checking everything continually, as I race mine quite often. If I'm not racing, I am adjusting/tweaking/upgrading something underneath.
OK I really don't race mine and I only have 463 to the wheels but I did notice one picture where it looked like the top had a crack in it and not just elongated. I did notify the shop who installed my suspension parts so that they could be on the look out for such things as well.

I wonder if you could add another piece to the stock piece in essence making it twice as thick if that would help strengthen this area.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:28 PM   #1147
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Do you think this broke because of the increased torque? Or have you been driving it hard cornering etc..... Definitely something we will all have to take a look at if we have increase power on our cars.
Not sure. I'm not even sure how long it's been broken. All I know is I've had trouble with it before. And now it's broke.

I was just now in a store where it's a steep grade, and I had to turn hard while going down the grade and at the point the car was twisted the most, it popped bad from back on the right side where the broken part is.

Then it dawned on me........ the 'backfire' I thought I was hearing when my wheels broke loose is that broken end link braket peice. So now I know. Pete is sending me another arm. Sucks becasue now I gotta get the rear alighned again. And I still have to inspect the other side to make sure it isn't ovaling out.

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yeah, I got confused as to what the picture was when I first looked at it. At first I thought it was a structural mount on the frame, not on the control arm.


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PQ mentioned in one of his previous posts that he lost the nut that bolts the endlink to the control arm. The hole probably got elongated from the nut being missing, which allowed the endlink to continue moving in there.. till something gave way. (That's My guess as to why)

It is something that should be checked quite often on these cars, especially if you do any kind of performance driving. Not just the endlink nuts, but everything in the suspension.

I made a habit of checking everything continually, as I race mine quite often. If I'm not racing, I am adjusting/tweaking/upgrading something underneath.
Any time I'm under it I try and find something broke. It had been a month or two since I was under it last. And sure enough, there it was. It drives just fine. Shows how tame I drive normally. I never noticed it.

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Old 03-21-2011, 02:30 PM   #1148
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OK I really don't race mine and I only have 463 to the wheels but I did notice one picture where it looked like the top had a crack in it and not just elongated. I did notify the shop who installed my suspension parts so that they could be on the look out for such things as well.

I wonder if you could add another piece to the stock piece in essence making it twice as thick if that would help strengthen this area.
Or just buy aftermarket arms.

I need an aftermarket Camaro.....
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No you need a Camaro aftermarket store in your Garage.....
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:49 PM   #1150
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No you need a Camaro aftermarket store in your Garage.....


No doubt.

Aftermarket equipment is sooooo much better than stock. And generaly cheaper too.....
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I wonder if anyone else has had this problem......???
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Yeah what do they usually say, "If I knew then what I knew now" The good thing about it is that you noticed it before it was under load and can easily be fixed without tearing up a whole bunch of other things.

It seems like the suspension is a weak link on these cars, but then after that is fixed the nexy weak link will appear, oh goody.
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OK I really don't race mine and I only have 463 to the wheels but I did notice one picture where it looked like the top had a crack in it and not just elongated. I did notify the shop who installed my suspension parts so that they could be on the look out for such things as well.

I wonder if you could add another piece to the stock piece in essence making it twice as thick if that would help strengthen this area.
Looks like the top is split by design for whatever reason.

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Looks like the top is split by design for whatever reason.


or you have cracked that one as well and it just hasnt pulled thru yet.
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or you have cracked that one as well and it just hasnt pulled thru yet.
Damn. I hope not.

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I don't see any benefit of having a "stress relief" there since it would be easier to change the end link than to cut and weld that piece if it broke loose but then again I ain't no engineer.

You wouldn't think there would be that much stress on that part but I guess there really is. It will be interesting to see if others with FI have a similar issue on their cars, especially if they have tracked it a few times since that puts extreme amounts of stress on it.

I was real interested in Emma's build to see all the suspension parts she is putting on her rear end sub frame bushings etc.... I would like to see if she is going to have an issue in this area.
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