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Old 01-27-2011, 09:55 AM   #953
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Every other known factor was favorable for higher numbers. Sea level, temp, humidity, etc.............. Considering my set-up, and everyone elses numbers with same set-up, it's GOT to be the wheels.
You forgot about the PQ factor.

The PQ factors states that there will be drama in every aspect of any project relating to a Camaro or life in general. This can and will include diva-like tendencies, loss of time from work, physical removal of hair, discoloration and collapsing of hoses, use of four letter words and lost appendages.
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Old 01-27-2011, 09:57 AM   #954
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You forgot about the PQ factor.

The PQ factors states that there will be drama in every aspect of any project relating to a Camaro or life in general. This can and will include diva-like tendencies, loss of time from work, physical removal of hair, discoloration and collapsing of hoses, use of four letter words and lost appendages.
Well put Russ, but you forgot to mention injured appendages from sticking them in rotating wheels.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:01 AM   #955
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You guys are nuts, I almost spit coffee on my computer.

I was just curious as to why some get 500 and other don't. And wondering why my cammed car got 463 and a FI car got 471. Now I understand he has alot more torgue 476 to 438 and probably at lower rpm's but just trying to learns some new idearrs not criticizing
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:01 AM   #956
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Well put Russ, but you forgot to mention injured appendages from sticking them in rotating wheels.




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...and lost appendages.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:02 AM   #957
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You forgot about the PQ factor.

The PQ factors states that there will be drama in every aspect of any project relating to a Camaro or life in general. This can and will include diva-like tendencies(check), loss of time from work(check), physical removal of hair(check), discoloration and collapsing of hoses(check), use of four letter words(check) and lost appendages(skipped this time).


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Well put Russ, but you forgot to mention injured appendages from sticking them in rotating wheels.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:12 AM   #958
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I saw what you wrote but I felt it needed a more detailed description.
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Emma, didn't you dyno your car with the stock wheels????

if so then this all makes sense... say 20 rwhp lost with 22's would put randy at 490....
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So do you lose 20 hp by having 22's?
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:58 AM   #961
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So do you lose 20 hp by having 22's?
I think the proof is in the difference between Emma's and PQ's dynos.

But yes, it is well known that the unsprung weight of 22's Kills the RWHP...
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Emma, didn't you dyno your car with the stock wheels????

if so then this all makes sense... say 20 rwhp lost with 22's would put randy at 490....


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My car had the stock 20s on it for the dyno runs after the maggie was installed.



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The only way to know for sure is to put a set of stock wheels on a car and then swap for 22s and dyno it with each on the same dyno on the same day. I'm not sure how much a car loses with 22s, but I'm sure it loses some.
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if so then this all makes sense... say 20 rwhp lost with 22's would put randy at 490....


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So do you lose 20 hp by having 22's?
I agree with Chris. I already know it loses excelleration time.

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I think the proof is in the difference between Emma's and PQ's dynos.

But yes, it is well known that the unsprung weight of 22's Kills the RWHP...


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The only way to know for sure is to put a set of stock wheels on a car and then swap for 22s and dyno it with each on the same dyno on the same day. I'm not sure how much a car loses with 22s, but I'm sure it loses some.
That's what I'm going to try and do, though I'll be dropping to 18s. I guess we'll see how big that difference is and see what we can deduce.
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