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Old 04-09-2013, 11:54 PM   #5026
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Need your folks help.

I am thinking of buying a longer range target rifle for fun...

Anyway..
I am thinking about a .300 win mag Remington 700 with a 26" barrel. By the end of this year I may try and find one. My goal is to buy one for $3-600 or so. It can be used, that is fine. Then I want to get a scope on it too by the end of this year. I want something that can work quite long. My limit would be around $400 for the scope.

Then next year I would intend to buy an accuracy international stage 1.5 with a bipod. That is going to be another cool $1500 or so.

So I guess what I am curious about, are my price points realistic for a decent 700? Probably won't have a muzzle brake.
If you have never had a distance rifle, I wouldn't start with a .300 Win Mag. The recoil will cause bad habits and the cost of ammo will limit training. A 700 SPS V in .308 Win will do great for a beginner and will hit 800-900 yards reasonably well.

I bought a SPS in .30-06 for a longer range target rifle. I mounted a Bushnell Tactical Elite 3200 5-15X magnification and it's a solid scope.

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Old 04-10-2013, 12:07 AM   #5027
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300 win mag

I have a sako III with a very good Leopold tactile long range scope on it and the first thing I would recommend is a muzzle break. Cut recoil by over half. Keeps u thinking about ur shooting and not the ugly bruise u are going to have. I shot 1 inch groups at 300 with this all day...smith gun here in San Angelo built it custom and its fantastic to shot
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The recoil was of decent concern to me. I'm 175 pounds. In reality my plan was long range shooting. I don't know where though. I thought maybe if i get a muzzle brake it would manageable. I really don't need it but family trait is to buy ridiculous stuff i don't need.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:50 PM   #5029
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ive Been Seriously Looking For One Of These
colt Le6920

S&W Mp15

Sig Sauer m400

I Would Really Like One Of These, But The Prices Are Way Out There For what I Want To Spend.
Fnh Scar 17

Sig Sauer 716
Any Opinions? Or Places To Get One Of The Bottom Ones For Cheaper?
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:02 PM   #5030
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ive Been Seriously Looking For One Of These
colt Le6920

S&W Mp15

Sig Sauer m400

I Would Really Like One Of These, But The Prices Are Way Out There For what I Want To Spend.
Fnh Scar 17

Sig Sauer 716
Any Opinions? Or Places To Get One Of The Bottom Ones For Cheaper?
Colt LE6920 is a very solid weapon through what I can collect. Same with the S&W.

The S&W should be cheaper however.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:10 PM   #5031
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The recoil was of decent concern to me. I'm 175 pounds. In reality my plan was long range shooting. I don't know where though. I thought maybe if i get a muzzle brake it would manageable. I really don't need it but family trait is to buy ridiculous stuff i don't need.
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ive Been Seriously Looking For One Of These
colt Le6920

S&W Mp15

Sig Sauer m400

I Would Really Like One Of These, But The Prices Are Way Out There For what I Want To Spend.
Fnh Scar 17

Sig Sauer 716
Any Opinions? Or Places To Get One Of The Bottom Ones For Cheaper?
What.The.Heck? Laugh.My.Ass.Off

Prices are politically driven for now... sit back and wait or let loose with the cash.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:15 PM   #5032
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Now a real question.... Talking with some people i know.. General consensus is that the .300 WSM is a lot of power. The guy I talked to said he disliked shooting it. Way to loud with muzzle brake, and too much kick without. He said it took the pleasure out. Now thinking to myself... When would I ever need a really long range gun? I plan to just target shoot with it.

So now this leads me to.. If I get a .308 Remington 700.. Should I still get an AICS stock on it and spend a lot of money customizing it?
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:22 PM   #5033
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:34 PM   #5034
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What.The.Heck? Laugh.My.Ass.Off

Prices are politically driven for now... sit back and wait or let loose with the cash.
Also, I'd like to get one before any law is passed.
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Now a real question.... Talking with some people i know.. General consensus is that the .300 WSM is a lot of power. The guy I talked to said he disliked shooting it. Way to loud with muzzle brake, and too much kick without. He said it took the pleasure out. Now thinking to myself... When would I ever need a really long range gun? I plan to just target shoot with it.

So now this leads me to.. If I get a .308 Remington 700.. Should I still get an AICS stock on it and spend a lot of money customizing it?
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If you can find a Rem PSS or SPS, put a good scope on it and you'll be good to go
I think they were running ~$700, don't know what they're at now.
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I just figured it was from lack of sleep, since you never do
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:45 PM   #5036
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Also, I'd like to get one before any law is passed.
If you do find something with a 'too good to be true' price, I'd run the serial # just to make sure. Brother in law found a $300 Colt AR15... yup... stolen.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:45 PM   #5037
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If you can find a Rem PSS or SPS, put a good scope on it and you'll be good to go
I think they were running ~$700, don't know what they're at now.

I just figured it was from lack of sleep, since you never do
Probably what i should do. But that AICS stock is VERY appealing to me. I was even thinking a used 700. Maybe not though.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:59 PM   #5038
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Probably what i should do. But that AICS stock is VERY appealing to me. I was even thinking a used 700. Maybe not though.
Sometimes you can find a deal on a rifled action, or an older BDL for a good price. The new stock would need to be bedded if you want to take full advantage.

Since I've been reloading 308, I'm AMAZED how much difference the bullet/powder makes in accuracy/consistency.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:49 PM   #5039
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Sometimes you can find a deal on a rifled action, or an older BDL for a good price. The new stock would need to be bedded if you want to take full advantage.

Since I've been reloading 308, I'm AMAZED how much difference the bullet/powder makes in accuracy/consistency.
Yeah I need to do research... the .300 with a muzzle brake is steal appealing to me for some crazy reason.... I don't know why. Am I anywhere realistic with a $3k max budget?

Yes, would probably reload either way i go.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:22 PM   #5040
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Now a real question.... Talking with some people i know.. General consensus is that the .300 WSM is a lot of power. The guy I talked to said he disliked shooting it. Way to loud with muzzle brake, and too much kick without. He said it took the pleasure out. Now thinking to myself... When would I ever need a really long range gun? I plan to just target shoot with it.

So now this leads me to.. If I get a .308 Remington 700.. Should I still get an AICS stock on it and spend a lot of money customizing it?
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I have heard the AICS system is a love it or hate it type deal. I would find a person willing to let you shoot their rifle with that stock and see how it feels.

If you plan on target shooting at less than 1000 yards for 99% of the time, a .308 is more than enough.
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Just found a new, still in box Black Rain Ordnance fallout 15 for under $1800.
I'm fighting the urge not to hit the buy button right now.
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:04 AM   #5042
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:24 AM   #5043
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Here's a picture of my newest toy. It's a 7 inch AR15 pistol. It's loud as heck and shoots a fireball with good ammo but its crazy fun to shoot.

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Old 04-11-2013, 09:00 AM   #5044
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I just got the new Guns & Ammo and it's on the cover. It got a pretty good review, looks to have 2.5-3 MOA on average. Good price point at $1400 I believe, but you'd have to expect that price to be double if you can find one.

I bought the same magazine also hahaha. Im not planning to buy online anywhere. Im gonna stick to the numerous shops thats around or within a 100 miles or so. Im sure I can find something, I just dont want no .223 or 5.56 AR
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I have heard the AICS system is a love it or hate it type deal. I would find a person willing to let you shoot their rifle with that stock and see how it feels.

If you plan on target shooting at less than 1000 yards for 99% of the time, a .308 is more than enough.
Long range i know of is a private one at 600 yards. So a .308 is what i should get. I'll try and convince myself.
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:07 PM   #5046
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I just ordered from FNH a two Scar 16's and two Scar 17's. The 16 is coming with their stock pinned 14.5" barrel with their optional 10" barrel and the Scar 17 standard 16" barrel with the optional 13" barrel. Should get the standard length barrels/firearm in two weeks and the SBR barrels in three weeks! Will try to remember to take a pic when they arrive!
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I just ordered from FNH a two Scar 16's and two Scar 17's. The 16 is coming with their stock pinned 14.5" barrel with their optional 10" barrel and the Scar 17 standard 16" barrel with the optional 13" barrel. Should get the standard length barrels/firearm in two weeks and the SBR barrels in three weeks! Will try to remember to take a pic when they arrive!
Nice! I look forward to seeing the pics of them.
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Long range i know of is a private one at 600 yards. So a .308 is what i should get. I'll try and convince myself.
One option....
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=336128630
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I just ordered from FNH a two Scar 16's and two Scar 17's. The 16 is coming with their stock pinned 14.5" barrel with their optional 10" barrel and the Scar 17 standard 16" barrel with the optional 13" barrel. Should get the standard length barrels/firearm in two weeks and the SBR barrels in three weeks! Will try to remember to take a pic when they arrive!
Wow someone just spent some serious money.

I was looking at some Scar's a couple weeks ago and the Scar 17 is going for almost $5k each and the Scar 16 is almost $3k each.
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Long range i know of is a private one at 600 yards. So a .308 is what i should get. I'll try and convince myself.
The Remington 700 SPS V is a great starting point for a .308 rifle. It has a 26" heavy barrel. I want to say 1:12 rifling twist but that is fast enough for most .308 caliber bullets.
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