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Old 06-07-2013, 04:47 PM   #5251
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Ugh.... here we go again with another shooting in California...
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:38 PM   #5252
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Build complete. AR-15 (M4 style) Black Hawk quad rail, Mako mag well funnel/grip, Nikon P-223 4-12x40 scope, AIM laser, Bushnell first strike reflex, GG&G 45 degree offset, AIM flashlight with offset mount, remote pressure switch & strobe mode, Black Hawk single point sling, Magpul Moe forward pistol grip, NCstar quick release bi-pod, and ambidextrous sling end plate

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Old 06-07-2013, 11:25 PM   #5253
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Build complete. AR-15 (M4 style) Black Hawk quad rail, Mako mag well funnel/grip, Nikon P-223 4-12x40 scope, AIM laser, Bushnell first strike reflex, GG&G 45 degree offset, AIM flashlight with offset mount, remote pressure switch & strobe mode, Black Hawk single point sling, Magpul Moe forward pistol grip, NCstar quick release bi-pod, and ambidextrous sling end plate

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Not gonna lie that hurts my eyes to look at, there's a lot going on there! What's it weigh?
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:13 AM   #5254
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Not sure. This is the carbon fiber version so it was super light. It has some weight to it now. Everything serves a purpose in certain situations.

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Old 06-08-2013, 11:04 AM   #5255
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So many tax stamps! Good stuff though
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:44 PM   #5256
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So many tax stamps! Good stuff though
Pretty sure none of those need a tax stamp. Look like semi auto

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Old 06-08-2013, 02:51 PM   #5257
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Pretty sure none of those need a tax stamp. Look like semi auto

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He was referring to a few pics of SBR's I had posted. I had to delete the post due to issues I was having with the pic hoster.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:18 PM   #5258
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He was referring to a few pics of SBR's I had posted. I had to delete the post due to issues I was having with the pic hoster.
Don't lie the NSA took those down lol! It looked like they were all SBRs, was that 9mm AR a 16" barrel? PS90s or P90s?
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:45 AM   #5259
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Don't lie the NSA took those down lol! It looked like they were all SBRs, was that 9mm AR a 16" barrel? PS90s or P90s?
The 9mm AR is all Colt with a 10.5" bbl. W/KAC rail

Both are PS90 SBR's
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:53 PM   #5260
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Build complete. AR-15 (M4 style) Black Hawk quad rail, Mako mag well funnel/grip, Nikon P-223 4-12x40 scope, AIM laser, Bushnell first strike reflex, GG&G 45 degree offset, AIM flashlight with offset mount, remote pressure switch & strobe mode, Black Hawk single point sling, Magpul Moe forward pistol grip, NCstar quick release bi-pod, and ambidextrous sling end plate

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Holy shit, that's a ton of stuff on your AR.

What's the point of all of it?
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:36 PM   #5261
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Holy shit, that's a ton of stuff on your AR.

What's the point of all of it?
There is no way to make this sound respectful, but I have a feeling it is the first AR he has built. I know because I did the same thing - I wanted a do all, have everything AR. Then I realized most of that stuff was never going to be used, sold the gun, and built a lightweight model because it gets carried more than anything.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:02 PM   #5262
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Thanks anyway but... I'm going to go with the Barrett M95, the dealer price without optics (I have a Nightforce 8-32x56 already) is just a little over half of what you want for your TAC 50. As an added bonus I can drive up and get my rifle right from the shop in TN when it's ready.

Just an FWI with the Barrett - the MOA is not even comparable to a McMillan Tac 50. I can be within 12 inches consistently at 2k yards and the Barrett is on avg 22 inches. big difference. You get what you pay for. If you are shooting at cars then not a big deal...if you are shooting at 2x2 ft steel at distance it will make from a hit or no hit.

They are both fun to shoot, just depends on how accurate you are wanting to be consistently.
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Old 06-10-2013, 03:20 PM   #5263
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There is no way to make this sound respectful, but I have a feeling it is the first AR he has built. I know because I did the same thing - I wanted a do all, have everything AR. Then I realized most of that stuff was never going to be used, sold the gun, and built a lightweight model because it gets carried more than anything.
That wouldn't surprise me. I built a carbine AR and all it has is a cheap red dot. I didn't want my AR to weigh more than my M1.

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Just an FWI with the Barrett - the MOA is not even comparable to a McMillan Tac 50. I can be within 12 inches consistently at 2k yards and the Barrett is on avg 22 inches. big difference. You get what you pay for. If you are shooting at cars then not a big deal...if you are shooting at 2x2 ft steel at distance it will make from a hit or no hit.

They are both fun to shoot, just depends on how accurate you are wanting to be consistently.
Do you hand load?
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Old 06-10-2013, 03:57 PM   #5264
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There is no way to make this sound respectful, but I have a feeling it is the first AR he has built. I know because I did the same thing - I wanted a do all, have everything AR. Then I realized most of that stuff was never going to be used, sold the gun, and built a lightweight model because it gets carried more than anything.
Actually not my first. If you look at what I added that was not a replaced part it wasn't very much. Just scope, red dot, laser, and pistol grip. The reason for having a red dot and a laser is that my wife (prior military) prefers the laser for up close targets while I (active military) prefer the reflex sight (neither of which adds any noticeable weight)Same goes for the pistol grip and mag well grip. I like one she likes the other. The bi-pod is a quick release and is removed while at home and only gets out on if desired at the range. So during a home defence scenario my wife and I will both have what we are comfortable and use to. The flashlight is a must for home defense. So like I said, everything has a purpose and is tailored to the tastes of two people. I would remove the scope while at home but it would never be spot on after removing it. I use the gun for coyotes that have been killing deer on our land. The list of parts seem so long because I included replaced factory parts. So yes this is my utility gun. Home defense and hunting.

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Old 06-10-2013, 03:59 PM   #5265
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I will eventually remove the scope once I pick up a Remington 700 to use for the coyotes, leaving the AR for purely home defense

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Old 06-11-2013, 08:37 AM   #5266
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Just an FWI with the Barrett - the MOA is not even comparable to a McMillan Tac 50. I can be within 12 inches consistently at 2k yards and the Barrett is on avg 22 inches. big difference. You get what you pay for. If you are shooting at cars then not a big deal...if you are shooting at 2x2 ft steel at distance it will make from a hit or no hit.

They are both fun to shoot, just depends on how accurate you are wanting to be consistently.
I like the TAC 50 but... to be honest I prefer the way the Barrett feels!
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:52 AM   #5267
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Advice... Don't buy a one that costs $2.30 a round to shoot
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:48 AM   #5268
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Advice... Don't buy a one that costs $2.30 a round to shoot
Or buy a reloading press and make your own ammo.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:29 PM   #5269
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AR for Home Defense?? A shotgun is the ultimate home defense weapon. Certain Shotgun shells will not penetrate multiple walls, technically leaving your loved ones at minimal risk, while blasting the sh*t out of the bad guy.
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:35 PM   #5270
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AR for Home Defense?? A shotgun is the ultimate home defense weapon. Certain Shotgun shells will not penetrate multiple walls, technically leaving your loved ones at minimal risk, while blasting the sh*t out of the bad guy.
This article by Larry Correia gave me cause to rethink the shotgun-is-best theory ... http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/20...-home-defense/
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:36 PM   #5271
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AR for Home Defense?? A shotgun is the ultimate home defense weapon.
What do you mean? The AR is the best home defense weapon, as long as you don't mind killing your neighbors in the process. lol

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This article by Larry Correia gave me cause to rethink the shotgun-is-best theory ... http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/20...-home-defense/
Personally I don't agree with the AR part of that article. I've witnessed an AR filled with .223 frangible rounds go through 5 sheet rock walls, and a brick outer wall before going through a neighbor's wall and stopping in their bedroom.

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Old 06-11-2013, 05:03 PM   #5272
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http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/20...-home-defense/

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Old 06-11-2013, 07:38 PM   #5273
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What do you mean? The AR is the best home defense weapon, as long as you don't mind killing your neighbors in the process. lol



Personally I don't agree with the AR part of that article. I've witnessed an AR filled with .223 frangible rounds go through 5 sheet rock walls, and a brick outer wall before going through a neighbor's wall and stopping in their bedroom.
You're crazy.

http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?opt...ask=view&id=14

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The Bureau’s research also suggests that common household barriers such as wallboard, plywood, internal and external walls are also better attacked with pistol rounds, or larger caliber battle rifles, if the objective is to "dig out" or neutralize people employing such object as cover or concealment. Although it is usually not advisable to fire at targets you can’t see in urban settings, it is done and some subjects have been stopped in this manner. Conversely, the ability of some pistol rounds to penetrate barriers tested puts innocent bystanders and fellow team members at greater risk in CQB scenarios. If an operator misses the intended target, the .223 will generally have less wounding potential than some pistol rounds after passing through a wall or similar structure. The close range penetration tests conducted indicated that high velocity .223 rounds were initially unstable and may, depending on their construction, disintegrate when they strike an object that offers some resistance. When concrete, brick or macadam are struck at an angle at close range, .223 rounds tent to fragment or break up, and ricochets are generally less hazardous. The .223 could consequently be considered safer for urban street engagements, because of its inherent frangibility within the cross-compartments created by street environments.
This too

http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?opt...d=15&Itemid=26

And this

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/02/1...fense-caliber/

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While armor-piercing and FMJ ammunition is specifically designed to do this, extensive testing has shown that light, extremely fast-moving .223 projectiles (including FMJs) often fragment when they hit a barrier as soft as thin plywood.


And in fact there are dozens of tests done comparing .223 and a variety of other ammunition in home defense situations that all show similar results. 5 sheet rock, 1 brick wall, and ANOTHER wall in a completely different house before coming to a stop? With frangible rounds no less?

By sheet rock and brick wall do you mean 5 paper targets and a piece of glass? I'm sorry brother, I'm gonna have to waive the BS flag at that one...
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Need to do this.
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Got my order confirmation from Barrett!

I should have my rifle mid July!!!

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