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Old 12-23-2012, 11:21 PM   #2969
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This is frustrating.

All these retards are buying up all the 308, 223, and 9MM in the stores and online like the hand of BO is gonna sweep in and take everything away forever. Goodness. I can't even go to the range because I'm not going to shoot through my supply without being able to restock it. I can't even find 22LR locally right now.

Between Christmas, CT, and the Government, I'm getting aggravated as all hell.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:26 PM   #2970
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Yeah... I wish I had started my own reloading after the first ammo panic....
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:46 PM   #2971
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My personal opinion and what the law says are two different things. So yes, some semi-automatic handguns can be considered "assault weapons" by the letter of the law.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but the fact that we don't agree with the law doesn't change the fact that the law is what sets the definition. And because the law is set differently in each state is why people disagree so much on what "it" actually is.

No, one weapon does not "assault" more than another, but we'd be silly to think a certain kind of weapon isn't better at doing the assaulting than another, and that the AR-15 was designed for something like hunting. It's a stripped down M16. The original platform was designed for military use, and we have a civilian version. That's why the law defines the weapon in the way that it does.

Again... I get what you're saying, but (unfortunately) the law is the law.

I'm a gun enthusiast. Love them. Think we well-balanced and law abiding people have every right in the world to own one (and could argue that we SHOULD).

That's arbitrary though. There are many weapons used in our military yet why do we demonize the AR15? Yes people do hunt with an AR15. You can hunt with any rifle you so choose. I respect your opinion but I refuse to let uniformed politicians dictate the truth of the matter to influence my own judgement. At the end of the day we are all on the same boat and I'm grateful for that at least.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:49 PM   #2972
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This is frustrating.

All these retards are buying up all the 308, 223, and 9MM in the stores and online like the hand of BO is gonna sweep in and take everything away forever. Goodness. I can't even go to the range because I'm not going to shoot through my supply without being able to restock it. I can't even find 22LR locally right now.

Between Christmas, CT, and the Government, I'm getting aggravated as all hell.


Should have stocked up well before though. BO already said that he wants to reinstate the AW ban a month ago. I'm just glad that I did.

I was in Nevada today and Cabelas is still fully stocked with every caliber. However, you're going to pay a premium. They wanted almost $40 for a box of primers....no thanks.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:58 PM   #2973
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What part of Nevada, if southern look up brass man brass. Was 23 and some change for small pistol last month
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:40 AM   #2974
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I was in the Tahoe area. I'll just order it online since it's cheaper than most stores around here even with haz mat factored in. Just thought I could pick them up for cheap since I was in the area. I got some small rifles for $20 a box when they were on sale once. I won't expect that price for a long time. Thanks though!
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:33 AM   #2975
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Can't believe some lunatic with a rifle started this ban crap again

Let me tell you.. I rather have an asshole with a gun shooting everywhere than him shoving a pound a dynamite in cans of sprite.. Least I have a chance lol


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Old 12-24-2012, 06:12 AM   #2976
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If you want to clarify definition of an assault weapon, why don't you look at the definition of assault.


Assault is an action, not a thing.

I have a knife on my keychain with a 1" blade... if I attacked someone with it, it's an assault weapon.

If I attack someone with rocks, I'm using an assault weapon.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:48 AM   #2977
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If you want to clarify definition of an assault weapon, why don't you look at the definition of assault.


Assault is an action, not a thing.

I have a knife on my keychain with a 1" blade... if I attacked someone with it, it's an assault weapon.

If I attack someone with rocks, I'm using an assault weapon.
I agree. But even we, as gun owners, can't pretend like there isn't a pretty big difference with that style of rifle over something like a handgun or a beginner's hunting rifle... or knife or rocks. They all can kill someone, but if they were all equal, why would we care if we couldn't have them? We'd still have handguns, shotguns, bolt-actions...

I'm not anti-gun... but to play devil's advocate, I think it's foolish for us to pretend they are just like any other gun. They're not. This rifle gets a bad rep because it, in its original form, was not DESIGNED for anything other than combat. It just wasn't. Do we use it for other things? Of course. Some people use it for hunting (I've never met a person that did), they compete, they shoot as a hobby, they collect... the majority of them will never be used, even by accident, on another person.

We have a civilian version of a weapon that was designed to be used on other people. And when a whack job uses it for that purpose, that's how it gets blown up into the drama that it is right now. My personal feeling is that if we, as owners, don't at least acknowledge the difference between this kind of weapon and dad's hunting rifle, we look like just as big of idiots that say it doesn't have any practical purpose other than the battle field.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:59 AM   #2978
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...................... My personal feeling is that if we, as owners, don't at least acknowledge the difference between this kind of weapon and dad's hunting rifle, we look like just as big of idiots that say it doesn't have any practical purpose other than the battle field.
Agreed... and that's where our 2nd amendment rights come in... If I ever need a weapon in a battle situation, (refer to 2nd amendment), I want the higher capacity.

The AR15/AK47 types are very accurate, I would use one as a hunting rifle in a heartbeat.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:19 AM   #2979
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I'm old fashioned. I learned to shoot on a .30-06, so if I ever go hunting back home, that's what I use. Never had any desire to hunt with the AR. I might go with the longer barrel target rifle for that. Almost bought one the other day too. Unfortunately it had some crazy 900 dollar scope that came with it, and I just don't have the use for that right now.

I want to keep this rifle for the same reason. I just think it's crazy when people pretend like the AR/AK series of rifles aren't quite a bit different.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:48 PM   #2980
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This is frustrating.

All these retards are buying up all the 308, 223, and 9MM in the stores and online like the hand of BO is gonna sweep in and take everything away forever. Goodness. I can't even go to the range because I'm not going to shoot through my supply without being able to restock it. I can't even find 22LR locally right now.

Between Christmas, CT, and the Government, I'm getting aggravated as all hell.
I've been hunting for .22LR locally, and I can't find any Federal bulk .22lr anywhere locally. All three Wal-Marts I checked were out, and the couple local gun shops were out as well. They wanted to sell me a $40 box of Winchester Super-X, which isn't bad .22LR ammo, but when I'm trying to just put some rounds down range and teach the wife as well, the $13-15 box of 550 Federals will do the job fine...
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:48 PM   #2981
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Assault weapon.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:49 PM   #2982
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That Hop-n-Sack in the middle of no place is Pumpkin Center I'm south of there a ways.

Looking like we may not shoot tomorrow, too much last minute stuff going on.
funny that I drive past that twice every day and never knew that
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