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Old 06-18-2010, 03:21 PM   #126
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I'm pretty sure she was a teacher when she came over on the mayflower.
nice. we had one of those too but our class gave him a minor heart attack that forced him to retire. Not sure if we were actually the cause, he had the heart attack at home, but the guy had a full civil war-style beard, would not have been surprised to see him walk in to class in Union-Blue one day
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:30 PM   #127
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nice. we had one of those too but our class gave him a minor heart attack that forced him to retire. Not sure if we were actually the cause, he had the heart attack at home, but the guy had a full civil war-style beard, would not have been surprised to see him walk in to class in Union-Blue one day
thats funny, but it would have to be a confederate uniform here! lol, that happened to us in 7th grade. We had a sub that was about 95 years old. That night after she went home from our class she had a heart attack and died.... I had no idea we were that bad of a class
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:20 PM   #128
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Excellent post, thank you for that.

What are your thoughts on BZO? I always like to hear opinions on this, because I hear so many different methods from different people.

In my limited experience, I was taught to BZO at 50yds. Others say 25 yds, 100 yds, 200 yds, etc....

What do you say?
Army BZO is mechanical; basically center the windage and lower the rear elevation flush with the carrying handle and 3/6 alignment, front sight post base flush with the hole.

USMC BZO is fire for zero.

That said, the Army fires for zero before qualification/training/combat. In fact, I have never used a mechanical BZO; it is emergency use only. The mechanical zero is for picking up a weapon that you have never fired (e.g. battlefield recovery).

We use a 25m M4 paper target and 3 round groups to zero. Fire 3, check the target, adjust the sights. Rinse and repeat until your shot group is centered. That should put point-of-aim as point-of-impact at 300m. It works for me.

For other weapons systems, I am sure that there are other zero targets.
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:35 PM   #129
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:26 PM   #130
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so how many here have CCW. and carry reguly. if so has anyone heard about the crossbread holster. best holster i have ever owned.
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:05 AM   #131
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:37 AM   #132
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lol, I think I got one of everything on that list.... I'm looking at getting an AR15 in a few months, I'll take a pic of the collapsible stock and my 30 round magazines (or how about one of those 100 rounders?). lol, I'm so glad I don't live in CA. In high school I had to do a project my senior year on a controversial topic. I chose to do it on CCW and learned alllllll about the crap you guy's in CA have to put up with . lol, we had to bring a visual presentation into the class... I asked the teacher if I could bring in an AK-47.... she had no idea what I was talking about
Yea, I have a collapsible stock as well as a pistol grip on mine, only problem is I'm limited to ten round magazines. So what we do is modify 30 rounders to only accept 10 rounds. I can have these things because I have this wonderful device installed on my AR called a "bullet button".

The bullet button prevents you from using your finger to release the magazine. So it qualifies as a "fixed" magazine under California law. The only way I can release the magazine now is by the use of a tool, ie tip of a bullet. It sucks not having 30 rounds, but at least I can have 10. I'm just glad that we're allowed to have anything at all!
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:57 AM   #133
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:09 AM   #134
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Ugh California SUCKS!

Yea, the gun laws suck. But there are a lot of other things about it that rock!
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:02 PM   #135
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Check out the Glock 26 or the Springfield XD sub compact 9mm.

Both are very compact, and given a slim profile holster, would fit very nicely in the door pocket.

I'd be worried about drawing though. Especially if you are right handed. Better make sure you are proficient at drawing and aiming with your left hand out of that gunslit window.
I am accurate with either hand,anyone else have suggestions on a good 9MM that will fit in the Camaro door pocket.
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:15 PM   #136
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so how many here have CCW. and carry reguly. if so has anyone heard about the crossbread holster. best holster i have ever owned.
I do. Carry everywhere but work and the only reason I don't carry there is I work on a military base and Uncle Sam wouldn't hesitate to throw me in the chokey for the rest of my natural life if I did.

I swear by the Crossbreed supertuck myself. I can carry dressed in just about anything using it...
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:44 AM   #137
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It sucks not having 30 rounds, but at least I can have 10. I'm just glad that we're allowed to have anything at all!
There is also a way to legally use the 30 rounders in CA. You can have finger-detachable magazines (CA PC 12276.1(a)(1)), including legally-owned (or legally borrowed) high capacity mags (even 30 rounders!) (CA PC 12020(a)).

The way you do it is to lose the "evil" features (Pistol Grip, Thumbhole Stock, Folding or Telescoping Stock, Grenade Launcher or Flare Launcher, Flash Suppressor, Forward Pistol Grip.) (CA PC 12276.1(a)(1)(A-F)) Most of these are trivial to replace, for example muzzle brake replaces flash hider, collapsible stock can be drilled and pinned, etc. Replacing the pistol grip's the real challenge.

On the AR-15 however there are three products currently in production that can replace the pistol grip. This is one example:







You cannot use the large capacity mags in a bullet button rifle, that'd be a felony (CA 12776.1(a)(2)). The rifle has to have the "evil" features removed, and it must have the standard mag release.

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Old 06-21-2010, 10:05 AM   #138
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There is also a way to legally use the 30 rounders in CA. You can have finger-detachable magazines (CA PC 12276.1(a)(1)), including legally-owned (or legally borrowed) high capacity mags (even 30 rounders!) (CA PC 12020(a)).

The way you do it is to lose the "evil" features (Pistol Grip, Thumbhole Stock, Folding or Telescoping Stock, Grenade Launcher or Flare Launcher, Flash Suppressor, Forward Pistol Grip.) (CA PC 12276.1(a)(1)(A-F)) Most of these are trivial to replace, for example muzzle brake replaces flash hider, collapsible stock can be drilled and pinned, etc. Replacing the pistol grip's the real challenge.

On the AR-15 however there are three products currently in production that can replace the pistol grip. This is one example:







You cannot use the large capacity mags in a bullet button rifle, that'd be a felony (CA 12776.1(a)(2)). The rifle has to have the "evil" features removed, and it must have the standard mag release.

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Yea, I know about those. I don't know though, I like my pistol grip. Never shot with one of those grips, but they don't look like they'd be very comfortable.
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Yea, I know about those. I don't know though, I like my pistol grip. Never shot with one of those grips, but they don't look like they'd be very comfortable.
Sure, lots of guys like the PG, it's the traditional AR look...

But the Hammerhead grip's actually very comfortable. Everyone who's shot one has remarked on how it is just like holding a wooden rifle. One guy said it was "all day comfortable." (I think he was a marketing manager for a feminine hygiene products company.)

Good to have options, lots of guys in CA have pallets of preban high caps they stocked up on before the ban came down, and they love having a comfortable way to shoot them.

Hopefully this assault weapons ban nonsense gets overturned in the courts and we can go back to our core competency: making polyamide composite finch feeders.

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Sure, lots of guys like the PG, it's the traditional AR look...

But the Hammerhead grip's actually very comfortable. Everyone who's shot one has remarked on how it is just like holding a wooden rifle. One guy said it was "all day comfortable." (I think he was a marketing manager for a feminine hygiene products company.)

Good to have options, lots of guys in CA have pallets of preban high caps they stocked up on before the ban came down, and they love having a comfortable way to shoot them.

Hopefully this assault weapons ban nonsense gets overturned in the courts and we can go back to our core competency: making polyamide composite finch feeders.

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god, I sure as hell hope so.
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Army BZO is mechanical; basically center the windage and lower the rear elevation flush with the carrying handle
Ok, must squash this now: That is NOT a carrying handle, it is a site rail!! Please use proper weapon safety and DO NOT carry the rifle by the site rail!
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:27 AM   #142
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Ok, must squash this now: That is NOT a carrying handle, it is a site rail!! Please use proper weapon safety and DO NOT carry the rifle by the site rail!
Didn't the original original M16A1 have a carry handle and not a site rail?
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Didn't the original original M16A1 have a carry handle and not a site rail?
Why yes I believe it did.
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Why yes I believe it did.
well either way, us Marines got our @$$ kicked if we even THOUGHT of calling it that, and if someone actually tried to carry it by that thing.... :shudder: they wouldn't be lookin to pretty once the DIs got done with them
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without getting too political, I just want to say that this decision is HUGE for law abiding gun owners across the US, especially in California, Illinois, New Jersey, and New York. It will open the door to legally challenge frivolous gun control laws. Nice work SCOTUS!
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without getting too political, I just want to say that this decision is HUGE for law abiding gun owners across the US, especially in California, Illinois, New Jersey, and New York. It will open the door to legally challenge frivolous gun control laws. Nice work SCOTUS!
Don't forget our brothers in Connecticut, Massachusetts, Delaware, Maryland, and Hawaii!
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I was just watching a news report about this. Thank God. For a minute when they said changes in gun laws were coming I said to myself oh great what are they taking away now!
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without getting too political, I just want to say that this decision is HUGE for law abiding gun owners across the US, especially in California, Illinois, New Jersey, and New York. It will open the door to legally challenge frivolous gun control laws. Nice work SCOTUS!
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