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Old 11-06-2008, 07:26 PM   #26
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the AM/FM antenna is built into the back glass. check out some of the pics from SEMA. the vertical lines in the defroster are the antenna
Yes I know that, but if you look at the convertible it has a horse whip antenna. The coupe is fine, the convertible is where the issue is. That horse whip antenna and shark fin on the trunk of the convertible really ruin it's beauty.
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Yes I know that, but if you look at the convertible it has a horse whip antenna. The coupe is fine, the convertible is where the issue is. That horse whip antenna and shark fin on the trunk of the convertible really ruin it's beauty.
the 'vert is also still in pre-production, so they're probably gonna work on "little" stuff later. right now, they're a little more interested in making sure the body still keeps it's strength w/o a roof & stuff like that.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:31 PM   #28
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the 'vert is also still in pre-production, so they're probably gonna work on "little" stuff later. right now, they're a little more interested in making sure the body still keeps it's strength w/o a roof & stuff like that.
Thats what I thought when GM released the Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice. Still even after 3 years they have an ugly 3' mast antenna sticking out the rear. Why would the Camaro Convertible be any different?
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Thats what I thought when GM released the Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice. Still even after 3 years they have an ugly 3' mast antenna sticking out the rear. Why would the Camaro Convertible be any different?
I think the Solstice/Sky will always use the lightweight mast antenna, because the lack of a stationary rear window. GM should just put the antenna in the windshields, even my 72 Cutlass Supreme had a hidden antenna on the windshield and it worked great.

I keep noticing that Camaro fin on the roof of BMW's in traffic, why anyone thinks it makes a car look better is beyond me. I hope the 2011 Camaro has no visible antennas.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:03 PM   #30
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I think the Solstice/Sky will always use the lightweight mast antenna, because the lack of a stationary rear window. GM should just put the antenna in the windshields, even my 72 Cutlass Supreme had a hidden antenna on the windshield and it worked great.

I keep noticing that Camaro fin on the roof of BMW's in traffic, why anyone thinks it makes a car look better is beyond me. I hope the 2011 Camaro has no visible antennas.
Yea exactly just put it in the front windshield, whats so hard about that?
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Hope this helps.
A picture of one of the original engineering test cars hardly constitutes proof of anything except it has 4 wheels.
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All Camaro coupes have ..... However the convertible has ..... Doesn't make sense to me.
Really? You were there? The coupe DEFINITELY has this, and you KNOW what the vert has or doesn't have? I'd love to see the documents to support your claims.
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As you can see from this picture the lines going down the center of the rear glass is an AM/FM antenna. Funny, I just noticed this Camaro had it's Shark Fin Antenna painted.
SEMA. Not real. As in...concepts are more real than SEMA cars. Refer to above comment on engineering cars. You can attain how many wheels the car has from the SEMA versions, after that it's up for grabs to what is real or not. Would the change something like the rear windshield? Doubtful, but we don't KNOW for sure.
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That just makes it less of an eye sore, it's still there. It needs to be hidden in the body like the Corvette convertibles AM/FM antenna. GM can do it but I know they will cheap out on it.
You're an idiot. Sorry, I couldn't help it. Saying that GM "cheaps out" on the Camaro is sthe stupidest thing you could say. The corvette is a premium car, the Camaro is NOT supposed to be.
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Thats what I thought when GM released the Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice. Still even after 3 years they have an ugly 3' mast antenna sticking out the rear. Why would the Camaro Convertible be any different?
Because it's a different car? Seriously, I just want to be clear why I will discriminate against your posts now...because you just compared the features on the Saturn SKY to the upcoming Camaro.
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Really? You were there? The coupe DEFINITELY has this, and you KNOW what the vert has or doesn't have? I'd love to see the documents to support your claims.
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SEMA. Not real. As in...concepts are more real than SEMA cars. Refer to above comment on engineering cars. You can attain how many wheels the car has from the SEMA versions, after that it's up for grabs to what is real or not. Would the change something like the rear windshield? Doubtful, but we don't KNOW for sure.
Yes I showed you the pictures didn't I? Every picture ever taken of the Camaro coupe (SEMA or not) has the AM/FM antenna integrated into the rear windshield. The Convertible however has a mast antenna, not the 3' long one but one of those 1.5' long antenna.

I don't visit this website as frequently as you, but didn't GM show photo's of the production Camaro that proves the Coupe has the features I discussed?

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You're an idiot. Sorry, I couldn't help it. Saying that GM "cheaps out" on the Camaro is sthe stupidest thing you could say. The corvette is a premium car, the Camaro is NOT supposed to be.
No it's ok, usually people who call others idiots are idiots themselves. They just insult others to hide their inadequacies. However, I will try to keep this conversation adult like.

If the base Camaro cost $22k and it doesn't come with these features thats understandable. When someone drops close to $35k on one of these babies it should have these features. Yes it's GM being cheap. Sorry we couldn't agree, but if you can't talk to me like an adult I have no reason to respond to you in the future.

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Because it's a different car? Seriously, I just want to be clear why I will discriminate against your posts now...because you just compared the features on the Saturn SKY to the upcoming Camaro.
Yes they are different cars, but they are both made by GM. They have nothing in common, but based on what GM has done on past convertibles (Except for the Corvette) I expect them to stick a mast antenna on the Camaro Convertible and that would disappoint me. The Camaro Convertible without the mast antenna and shark fin look so much cleaner and more beautiful.

That is why I started this, I think it would be a big mistake for GM to "cheap out" and simply put a mast antenna on this car to save a few bucks. The convertible would look so much better with everything integrated into the body. Why do you think if GM hides the Shark Fin and AM/FM antenna into the body of the Camaro Coupe/Convertible it will become a premium coupe/convertible?

People will likely pay north of $35k for a fully loaded V8 Camaro Convertible, I think GM can take these steps to make the convertible that much better. I admit I might be wrong, GM might after all release the Camaro Convertible with integrated antenna's but until I see it with my own eyes I will remain concerned.

Now to you, I don't come here often enough to care how much you criticize my post and I truly don't care what you or others think of me on this website. I am here to learn more about this car, ask questions, and post my opinions about this car. I expected at least to get an rational and adult response from everyone, but I guess that was too much to expect. However, I will say up until now I am impressed with how people responded to my questions and criticisms. You guys truly make this website great.

May I suggest that you might have a mental problem. This website has dozens of people complaining about the shark fin antenna on the Camaro because it does take away the beauty. Why don't you attack them also? GM isn't giving these things away for free, as possible/likely owners we all have the right to criticize this cars shortcomings. GM has a great car here I just want to see it be the best that it can be.

You want to continue to harass me? Go ahead, thats what the ignore list is for.
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Anyway, I think it would be nice to see all the antennas hidden, premium model or not. The 2008 Aveo sedan looks to have a smooth roof and no whip antenna, and that is not a premium model IMO.
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that little antena on top of the rear window, does anyone know what that is? Onstar? if so definately no onstar for me i hope to god its not the radio antena!!! if not does anyone know what kind of antena the camaro will have? internal, a solid external antena, power antena?
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Yeah it's the Onstar/XM Satellite Radio antenna. And I'm not seeing any kinda delete option for it in the ordering guide so you'd probably be filling holes if you want to remove it. The reg. radio antenna is integrated into the rear window like pretty much any new car. And you get a year of the safe and sound Onstar included in the price of the car anyway (and directions and connections for a year also if you order a 1LT, 2LT, or 2SS)
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that little antena on top of the rear window, does anyone know what that is? Onstar? if so definately no onstar for me i hope to god its not the radio antena!!! if not does anyone know what kind of antena the camaro will have? internal, a solid external antena, power antena?
first off... welcome to the site we're always glad to keep getting more people on the site who share the same passion about the Camaro!

this topic has been discussed a lot. here's some great places to start

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8846

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9370
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6768

for future reference, you can find a lot of stuff with the in the top right
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first off... welcome to the site we're always glad to keep getting more people on the site who share the same passion about the Camaro!
sorry i did a search but couldnt find the answer i was looking for.

ive been following the camaros progress since prob. about '04

what sucks is that they will hitting the streets in feb/mar and ill be deployed to iraq for most of the year. but i should have one waiting for me when i get back!
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Yeah it's the Onstar/XM Satellite Radio antenna. And I'm not seeing any kinda delete option for it in the ordering guide so you'd probably be filling holes if you want to remove it. The reg. radio antenna is integrated into the rear window like pretty much any new car. And you get a year of the safe and sound Onstar included in the price of the car anyway (and directions and connections for a year also if you order a 1LT, 2LT, or 2SS)
All true, I highlighted a point in bold that most people are having a hard time understanding for some reason.
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thats actually what i was hoping for. the first time i saw that was on a early to mid 80's chevy truck. i liked the idea for the camaro and wondered if it was already done ir if i was going to need to install a retractable antena.
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Shark Fins are cool, but even if you don't like them, you will surely like the free Onstar for a year. I've had to use the lock-out feature for our work trucks a few times when our employees have locked themselves out and it takes about 4 minutes to make the call and give your info. and VOILA! Your doors are unlocked. Also, you get roadside service, and car-phone minutes, and they can track your car if stolen...all that and a bunch more for FREE! Not to mention the XM for a trial period. Once you have XM, you can't go back.
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dont get me wtong, im not denouncing onstar or xm radio i just dont want the little shark fin antena. less is more, simplistic
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dont get me wtong, im not denouncing onstar or xm radio i just dont want the little shark fin antena. less is more, simplistic
I agree and hope to delete the Onstar from my Camaro when I order, other GM vehicles have a Onstar delete RPO code UE0, it is standard, but you should be able to delete the equipment, less IS more and cleaner looking.

This is one reason I wont order yet, I want to see the complete RPO codes for the Camaro, like spoiler delete, Onstar delete, the little details do count.
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that little antena on top of the rear window, does anyone know what that is? Onstar? if so definately no onstar for me i hope to god its not the radio antena!!! if not does anyone know what kind of antena the camaro will have? internal, a solid external antena, power antena?
Thread merged. Hope ya don't mind. Got a few covering it...and other refrences in this thread should you need.
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I agree and hope to delete the Onstar from my Camaro when I order, other GM vehicles have a Onstar delete RPO code UE0, it is standard, but you should be able to delete the equipment, less IS more and cleaner looking.

This is one reason I wont order yet, I want to see the complete RPO codes for the Camaro, like spoiler delete, Onstar delete, the little details do count.
You might want to research this a bit, but I'm sure I've read here somewhere no standard features can be deleted.
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You might want to research this a bit, but I'm sure I've read here somewhere no standard features can be deleted.
Thats the common thought, you cant delete standard equipment, but there are a few delete RPO codes for most GM cars and trucks for 2008 & 2009.

Why would they offer Onstar delete on Aveo, Cobalt, Impala, and trucks, but not the Camaro? It is just not a listed RPO code, most think if it is not listed it doesnt exist, like salesmen.
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that little antena on top of the rear window, does anyone know what that is? Onstar? if so definately no onstar for me i hope to god its not the radio antena!!! if not does anyone know what kind of antena the camaro will have? internal, a solid external antena, power antena?
I don't believe you can delete OnStar. It's hard wired to every Camaro since it's standard on all trim levels. I like the fin. In my opinion it says that I have something more than just FM/AM radio.
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^^ RPO code UE0. not sure if it will work on the Camaro yet, though
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^^ RPO code UE0. not sure if it will work on the Camaro yet, though
That would be interesting to see if they would allow the removal of OnStar. Very interesting.....
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