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Old 10-01-2014, 01:10 PM   #1
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January 2015 update - My V6 beat a 4.6L Mustang

UPDATE.

He finished the Coyote engine swap, we met up on his families property and went for a rematch.
Arm drop, I got a hole shot launch on him and kept a fender on him for about 60-70 feet.
I'm pretty sure I had a fender due to wheel spin on his part, cause suddenly he was flying past me in a glorious cloud of exhaust noise and fumes.
He properly trounced me by the time the 1/8 mile rolled past.



Before the flamers come out, yes it happened.

1/8 mile, private road, I got him on a hole shot off the line and kept a fender on him the whole time.
Pretty sure he should have won. I see him around from time to time and I'm also pretty sure he hurt his engine street racing, it didn't sound right.

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Old 10-01-2014, 01:27 PM   #2
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:27 PM   #3
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:38 PM   #4
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'05 GT convertible
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Old 10-01-2014, 02:00 PM   #5
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If you got the jump, it isn't suprising. His main advantage over your 6 is his low end torque. He his car is capable of pulling you off the line, but once the RPMs are up you should be fairly even. A better driver in the 6 will take the advantage away at the light.
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Old 10-01-2014, 02:15 PM   #6
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If you got the jump, it isn't suprising. His main advantage over your 6 is his low end torque. He his car is capable of pulling you off the line, but once the RPMs are up you should be fairly even. A better driver in the 6 will take the advantage away at the light.
We launched on 3 horn, and I was anticipating the third honk.

FWIW, he was cool about it. Just came by my office and told me he thinks he's got a wiped lobe on the cam. He also had a CEL come on on his way home from the race.
I was honestly pretty surprised by it. I figured I could keep up with him, which I did, I just happened to be 3 feet in front of him doing it.
I won't race him again though. He's already got a Coyote engine waiting to go in.
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Old 10-01-2014, 04:36 PM   #7
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Not a huge surprise to me.

I've always said that the GT should walk away initially in a drag and down low, but once the speeds climb the V6 should be hanging....but unfortunately by then the GT has pulled ahead. From a roll it should be closer.

But in your case if you got the jump on him out of the gate then I can see it being a good race.

Of course, if his car wasn't running right that kind of throws it all out the window.
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Old 10-01-2014, 05:12 PM   #8
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Of course, if his car wasn't running right that kind of throws it all out the window.
I'm taking the Win, dirty or not.
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Old 10-01-2014, 05:15 PM   #9
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4.6L doesn't surprise me, 5.0L I'd be amazed at what a terrible driver they must have been.

Hell my 2000 Focus 2.0L DOHC beat a 2004 3.8L by a few feet
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:26 PM   #10
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O/p why are you surprised lol? My money would go on a stock V6 camaro any day against a stock 4.6 lol. Nice kill btw
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Old 10-01-2014, 10:35 PM   #11
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Mariojoe, I'd take that bet more often than not.

We aren't talking the fairy 2v 4.6 from 96-98, or the slightly improved one from 99-04.

A competent driver in an 05-10 3v 4.6 should easily handle a stock v6 camaro in any configuration of the two. Obviously driver error plays a part, but from a dig it's the mustangs race to lose every time.
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:14 PM   #12
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Mariojoe, I'd take that bet more often than not.

We aren't talking the fairy 2v 4.6 from 96-98, or the slightly improved one from 99-04.

A competent driver in an 05-10 3v 4.6 should easily handle a stock v6 camaro in any configuration of the two. Obviously driver error plays a part, but from a dig it's the mustangs race to lose every time.
This... All day this lol

You're talking about a car that is roughly half a second quicker down the quarter... That's another 5 full cars from a dead stop.
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:14 PM   #13
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Earliest rendition off the newer 4.6..

Convertible so it's the heaviest

Probably an automatic so running 3:31s...

Driver admitted to engine problems

Doesn't sound like a win to me. Let me guess if you raced a bugatti that had no tires and couldn't even move you would consider it a win.../fail bro.
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Old 10-02-2014, 12:10 AM   #14
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Earliest rendition off the newer 4.6..

Convertible so it's the heaviest

Probably an automatic so running 3:31s...

Driver admitted to engine problems

Doesn't sound like a win to me. Let me guess if you raced a bugatti that had no tires and couldn't even move you would consider it a win.../fail bro.
Had he not wiped a lobe on the cam he would have driven past me on the way there.

It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.
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Old 10-02-2014, 01:33 AM   #15
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my 07 3v 5speed 4.6 went 13.4 106mph consistent on stock tire so there is something wrong with that car ..my car did have a cold air kit and factory 3.55 gear .layed down 307 rwhp 312 tq
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if it was a new v6 mustang that would have destroyed the v6 camaro also
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Old 10-02-2014, 11:17 AM   #17
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my 07 3v 5speed 4.6 went 13.4 106mph consistent on stock tire so there is something wrong with that car ..my car did have a cold air kit and factory 3.55 gear .layed down 307 rwhp 312 tq
He was running all stock and all I have so far for straight line performance is a CAI Inc CAI.

He came by again this morning and said he found the issue. Apparently these things had a plastic intake manifold and his cracked letting a coupld of the intake tracks suck in too much air.
He's got most of the ancilliaries pulled off the top of the engine and put it up on jack stands in his garage to start pulling out the 4.6 before he sends it to the shop for the Coyote install.
Told me he's going to use his annual bonus for a supercharger next month.
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An 05 GT convertible with an A5 for example I could see happening. Go to the strip and look at the slower cars that are beating faster cars with quick RT to the stripe. I have no problem believing this outcome.
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"Walked" to me means to pull away , like one was sitting still and I walked off .
Or am I just getting old and street racing terminology just that far off ?
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"Walked" to me means to pull away , like one was sitting still and I walked off .
Or am I just getting old and street racing terminology just that far off ?
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to win by more than 4 inches, means he walked him. I'm going by this rule. I "walk" a lot of muscle cars. LOL. ;D
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I see you guys running pretty close, but, the edge will still go to the 4.6 at any speed. Don't underestimate the top end of the 3V as they are pretty stout up to about 120 N/A, higher with Boost.

The Verts are usually high 13 second cars, but, with his issues, he's probably running somewhere in the low 14's.

Also, the term "Walked" is when you put several car/bus lengths on the person as if they were standing still. You beat the car, but, not by much. Honestly, you edged him out and the term "walked" is very extreme in this scenario.
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Had he not wiped a lobe on the cam he would have driven past me on the way there.

It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.
Your right .....but a fender length on a wounded car isnt walking it.....but a win is a win.
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So I can use a meme from all time favorite movie..... just giving you a hard time man lol .
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my 07 3v 5speed 4.6 went 13.4 106mph consistent on stock tire so there is something wrong with that car ..my car did have a cold air kit and factory 3.55 gear .layed down 307 rwhp 312 tq
On a site like this...we (i use that term collectively even if Im not really a part of the cult lol) allowed this post to go?

The only stock 4.6 that ever put down 310 HP is a 4.6 that doesn't exist.

No 4V that wasn't and 03-04 Cobra made close to that power at the wheels, and if it was a Cobra from that year, it was FUBARd....

Seriously mrrevinto7....please...tell us wtf you are talking about

EDIT: don't mistake that for doubting your time...13.4 in an auto is possible, though not usual....I'm seriously SERIOUSLY doubting the dyno results
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