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Old 06-14-2010, 11:32 PM   #1
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Cant get my SS to relearn TPMS Sensors

Alright folks, so I bought some 21's from a fellow member. Got them, and did the TPMS sensor learn, letting air out of the tire until the horn honked, did it for all 4 and it worked no problem. Well 2 days later I get in the car and it starts beeping at me saying to check TPMS, so I pull it up on the DIC, and the Driver rear was no longer reading, ok whatever, all others are reading fine.

So I go out today to relearn all of them because you cant just do 1, or if you can It doesn't say how, and per the manual you set it to active learning mode and start at the drivers front, let air out until it honks, proceed to the pass front, then the pass rear, and finally drivers rear.

Well I cannot get the passenger rear to read. I will let air out for 30+ seconds and it never honks and before you know it its timed out of active relearn and it does not store the front 2 since it was not completed as a whole.

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Old 06-14-2010, 11:36 PM   #2
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Either the Sensor is bad on that wheel or you might try adding air instead of letting it out.. Other than that, it sounds like you are doing everything else correct.. If not, WARRANTY !!
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:40 PM   #3
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Either the Sensor is bad on that wheel or you might try adding air instead of letting it out.. Other than that, it sounds like you are doing everything else correct.. If not, WARRANTY !!
But if I take it to the dealer cant they see all the original options my car was ordered with and see I did not get the 21" option?

and also the sensor worked fine before I tried the relearn, it was the drivers rear that stopped reading
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:49 PM   #4
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Damn. This sucks. These sensors are pissing me off.

I never had a problem with those ones when they were on my car Jeanius, but my new ones will read to set, but completely drop off after about an hour. And I've reset them 5 or 6 times. But they ALL drop off. And I've also had mine do the same as you. Where the right rear wouldn't read at all.

Another member I met Saturday said the same thing. His woulnd't stay paired.

I'm confused too. These things are screwy.
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:59 PM   #5
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Damn. This sucks. These sensors are pissing me off.

I never had a problem with those ones when they were on my car Jeanius, but my new ones will read to set, but completely drop off after about an hour. And I've reset them 5 or 6 times. But they ALL drop off. And I've also had mine do the same as you. Where the right rear wouldn't read at all.

Another member I met Saturday said the same thing. His woulnd't stay paired.

I'm confused too. These things are screwy.

Wierd, it worked the first time absolutely no problem, and it took less than 10 sec of decreasing the tire pressure for it to honk on each tire

In the manual it says you can use some sort of tool, I'm gonna swing by the dealer tomorrow I guess, Ill update
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:06 AM   #6
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Wierd, it worked the first time absolutely no problem, and it took less than 10 sec of decreasing the tire pressure for it to honk on each tire

In the manual it says you can use some sort of tool, I'm gonna swing by the dealer tomorrow I guess, Ill update
Please do. I'm going nuts.
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:28 AM   #7
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If your having trouble with your TPMS give this reset tool a look.
http://www.tpms-tool.com/ATEQ_TPMSRE...set_Tools.html
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Damn. This sucks. These sensors are pissing me off.

I never had a problem with those ones when they were on my car Jeanius, but my new ones will read to set, but completely drop off after about an hour. And I've reset them 5 or 6 times. But they ALL drop off. And I've also had mine do the same as you. Where the right rear wouldn't read at all.

Another member I met Saturday said the same thing. His woulnd't stay paired.

I'm confused too. These things are screwy.
+1 Mine are doing the exact same thing. Fronts are fine, rears drop off.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:29 AM   #9
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Does the option on your data thing(forget what its called) where you check your tire pressure on the screen, it has an option to relearn your tire pressure, you tell it to relearn and the horn honks, and it resets it and after a while it reads correctly
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:32 AM   #10
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Does the option on your data thing(forget what its called) ....
How can you forget something called a DIC?
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Dealer charged me $75 to reprogram them because I couldn't get the rear driver side sensor to communicate.


yea ... total
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Dealer charged me $75 to reprogram them because I couldn't get the rear driver side sensor to communicate.


yea ... total
That bill should totally be on warranty afaiac....
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:45 AM   #13
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same oh

Funny that this same thing happened to me after tire roatation on my wifes Yukon last month.Tire Discount could not reprogram,manually,with a hand held computer at all.It would take then immediately erase.Well After about 45 mins.They said just go drive it and if it doesn't re-learn on it's own in a few days bring it back.I was pis--ed. They stated that they" have trouble with GM systems all the time.Sometimes it has to relearn on its own!
Well I drove it for two days and bingo it re-set itself.I don't know how long you guys have been living with this but you would think it would eventually re-learn on its own?
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:18 PM   #14
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That bill should totally be on warranty afaiac....
I agree, but it is not worth the time for me to fight it
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:51 PM   #15
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Just about every Camaro I've seen has had issues with TPMS signals dropping off, it is really strange. I've seen this happen using OEM sensors, as well as aftermarket sensors. I think something is screwy with the Camaro TPMS system. Luckily, the Camaro doesn't use run-flat tires. No real need for a TPMS then, because it is obvious when the tire is low or flat. LOL! TPMS are critical for cars running run-flat tires mostly, because you can't see when they are flat.

Mostly annoying really, this system is.
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:04 PM   #16
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I just hate seeing the damn light on the dash
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I have a solution to hide that light.



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Old 06-15-2010, 02:34 PM   #18
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Dealer charged me $75 to reprogram them because I couldn't get the rear driver side sensor to communicate.


yea ... total
Those the ones you got from me? The OPs are too. My TPMS are reading but only last about an hour. I've been driving on them for a few weeks now doing NOTHING and they haven't synced at all. I just live with that Fing light.

Has anyone had the dealer sync them and STILL not work?
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I have an electronic TPMS reset tool, used it on a few local Camaros so far. At least half of the cars have the weird issue, others seem to work fine. My own car seems to work fine, but Will's does not. I'm wondering if early builds were different from later builds.
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I had an issue with the passenger rear not being recognized. I got frustrated, drove it until the weekend, loaded it up with air and tried again. This worked for me. No problems since.
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I took mine to the local dealer after I got my new wheels with non-OEM TPMS on it. The local dealer did NOT do the calibration properly. He just pressed "learn" and let the horn beep a few times. It seemed to find the sensors, but didn't map them to the correct wheels on the DIC display. (He didn't know to let air out of each tire in sequence.) I know they messed it up because today I got in the car and I got a warning that the left rear tire was low. I stopped at a tire shop to get some air so I could make the drive back to the shop (45 miles away) that mounted and balanced my wheels. He checked the pressure in the left rear tire... it' was fine. After checking them all, it was the left front that was low. Ugh. The DIC was showing the left rear as low.

I'll be driving to Columbus in the morning to get the left front tire fixed. It must have slow leak. I'll program the TPMS myself while it's there.

I just found it odd that the service guy at the local Chevy dealer did not know how to program the TPMS in a Camaro. As a side note, I didn't buy my Camaro from that dealer. I've never been very impressed with them, but I thought they should be able to do a simple thing like program the tire sensors. Oh well.
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Didnt get a chance to swing by the dealer, will try tomorrow
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I took mine to the local dealer after I got my new wheels with non-OEM TPMS on it. The local dealer did NOT do the calibration properly. He just pressed "learn" and let the horn beep a few times. It seemed to find the sensors, but didn't map them to the correct wheels on the DIC display. (He didn't know to let air out of each tire in sequence.) I know they messed it up because today I got in the car and I got a warning that the left rear tire was low. I stopped at a tire shop to get some air so I could make the drive back to the shop (45 miles away) that mounted and balanced my wheels. He checked the pressure in the left rear tire... it' was fine. After checking them all, it was the left front that was low. Ugh. The DIC was showing the left rear as low.

I'll be driving to Columbus in the morning to get the left front tire fixed. It must have slow leak. I'll program the TPMS myself while it's there.

I just found it odd that the service guy at the local Chevy dealer did not know how to program the TPMS in a Camaro. As a side note, I didn't buy my Camaro from that dealer. I've never been very impressed with them, but I thought they should be able to do a simple thing like program the tire sensors. Oh well.
Well, when mine get back. I know I'm gonna get this *hit figured out. Run flat or not, it's supposed to work. Geees............

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Didnt get a chance to swing by the dealer, will try tomorrow
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I'm back from the shop. There was a slow leak along the bead on that tire and it's been fixed. Ya!

I stopped at IPS and Mike helped me the car "relearn" the tire pressure sensors. We went through the learn mode, letting air out of one tire at a time in sequence as described in the manual. It seemed to work just fine and we topped off the tires with air. Then, on my way home, the dang "service tire sensor system" warning light came on again and it lost all 4 sensors. WTF?

The guys at the tire shop said that because my sensors are inside the tires that the standard method (described above) might not work. He said that usually only works if you're actuall releasing the air through the valve on the sensors. My sensors are inside the wheel due to the design of the Savini wheels.

My next step is to go to a Chevy dealer to see if they have some kind of scanner.

This is getting awfully expensive to pay people for all this extra stuff! (BTW, IPS did NOT charge me a penny to help me today! - thank you IPS!)
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Very interesting.

I just got back from the dealer and they couldn't get my left rear TPMS to program.
I (and they) assumed the one sensor was bad (aftermarket senors in new wheels). I'm having the wheel supplier ship me out a new sensor.

Maybe that's not the issue?

Does letting air out of the tires work for aftermarket sensors?
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